SWC75
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First, let’s look at some highlights from tonight’s game:
(Jump to the 6 minute mark)
- Why do the Johnnies turn into the Golden State Warriors when they play us? And why do we turn into the Washington Generals? I knew it wasn't going tob e our night when they hit that Lamizana shot.
- The real difference between the teams, at leas tin the key points of the game, was hustle. They got the loose balls and rebounds and were all over us on defense, (much like the ants above), while we were lazy and slow for most of the game. There were bad calls and bad breaks but that's what happens when you are being out-hustled. Jimmy Satalin said that the refs are more likely to call the game favorably for a team that is dominating the play. that sure wasn't us.
- The problems started on defense, where we didn’t guard their shooters who made 12 threes, many of them during the 0-14 run in the first half and the 0-15 run in the second half.
- We also didn’t protect the basket. Our centers aren’t very good defenders to begin with but they allowed themselves to be drawn away from the basket and St. John’s got a lot of back-door dunks an lay-ups. Failing to protect either the arc or the basket is a bad combination.
- When the game began slipping away in the first half we made a serious attempt to rally and briefly got back to single digits just before halftime. Then we made a couple of second half runs that were answered. But when the game came part again midway through the second half, it became a rout in the military sense. It was all individual effort rather than the team concept. We didn’t quit in terms of effort but we did quit in terms of believing that the effort could work and then final we weren’t even trying very hard as St. Johns repeated beat us down the court. At the end the St. John’s players could be seen laughing at us.
- The numbers don’t like. We shot 42% inside the arc, 17% outside of it and 57% from the line while the Johnnies were 63%/41%/52%.Frank Howard, Andrew White, John Gillon, Tyler Roberson and Tyus Battle were a combined 6 for 33 from the field (18%). They had 27 assists and 9 turnovers while we had 14 assists and 19 turnovers. They got 32 points off of turnovers to our 9 and 18 fast break points to our 5.
- Actually this number does lie: we out-rebounded them 46-42 and got 21 offensive rebounds to 11. For much of the game we couldn’t get a rebound when we needed it and when we did get them, we didn’t turn them into points. We had so many offensive rebounds because we had so many missed shots and only three of them came in the first half.
- Our walk-ons came in at 1:45, (when was the last time we’ve seen them in the Dome because the other team was hopelessly ahead?) and scored 5 points in that time. Our scholarship players had scored that same amount of points in the previous 5 mintues and 52 seconds.
- Poor DaJuan Coleman. He can’t jump at all. Multiple times he got the ball on beautiful passes underneath the basket and tried to flip the ball into the hoop when any other player of his size would have dunked it. A couple times it rimmed out and he couldn’t get the rebound. St. Johns was then off to another fast break.
- Two sequences typified the game. From 16:52-16:03 this happened: We were down 36-47. John Gillon was fouled. He made the first and missed the second, (something good foul shooters almost never do). Tyler Lydon got the rebound and was fouled. He missed both free throws. DaJuan Coleman got the rebound and got the ball to Andrew White, got the rebound and made the lay-up and was fouled. He missed the free throw but Tyler Lydon got the rebound. Frank Howard missed a jump shot but Andrew White got the rebound. John Gillon missed a three pointer. St. John’s finally rebounded the ball but missed and Gillon was fouled getting the rebound, giving him a one and one. He again made the first and missed the second. That bought the score to 39-47 when it potentially could have been as close as 43-47, (if Gillon had hit the three pointer and the second half of the one and one). We got 6 straight rebounds, the first five of them offensive, and they produced 3 points, which St. John’s negated by hitting a three pointer their next trip down court.
- The other sequence came with 6:29 left. St. John’s lead had grown to 52076 and Frank Howard had had enough. Tyus Battle missed a three. DaJuan Coleman rebounded and got the ball to Howard who drove the lane and tried to throw in a dunk from the rafters- even though he had three guys near the basket he could have passed the ball to. . It missed and clanged back out, starting a St. John’s break that resulted in the exact type of dunk Frank Had been trying on the other end.
- We have now lost to teams that have lost to Wagner, Northeastern, Arkansas State, Delaware State, and Long Island.
- That team that lost to DePaul a decade ago was able to come back and have a great tournament in New York a week later because they had leadership. This team doesn’t. Nobody took control when things were falling apart.
- We thought this would be one of Jim Boeheim’s best teams. Now it appears we have one of his worst teams. It’s the type of team that will get pounded down like a nail into a floorboard by a conference like the ACC. We have bene worrying about our resume but may not matter. We might not be playing in the post season at all. There seems to be a very real possibility that this team will have a losing record and break our nation leading streak of 46 winning seasons in a row – before we can catch UCLA’s all-time record of 54, which I’d really like to see SU do.
(Jump to the 6 minute mark)
- Why do the Johnnies turn into the Golden State Warriors when they play us? And why do we turn into the Washington Generals? I knew it wasn't going tob e our night when they hit that Lamizana shot.
- The real difference between the teams, at leas tin the key points of the game, was hustle. They got the loose balls and rebounds and were all over us on defense, (much like the ants above), while we were lazy and slow for most of the game. There were bad calls and bad breaks but that's what happens when you are being out-hustled. Jimmy Satalin said that the refs are more likely to call the game favorably for a team that is dominating the play. that sure wasn't us.
- The problems started on defense, where we didn’t guard their shooters who made 12 threes, many of them during the 0-14 run in the first half and the 0-15 run in the second half.
- We also didn’t protect the basket. Our centers aren’t very good defenders to begin with but they allowed themselves to be drawn away from the basket and St. John’s got a lot of back-door dunks an lay-ups. Failing to protect either the arc or the basket is a bad combination.
- When the game began slipping away in the first half we made a serious attempt to rally and briefly got back to single digits just before halftime. Then we made a couple of second half runs that were answered. But when the game came part again midway through the second half, it became a rout in the military sense. It was all individual effort rather than the team concept. We didn’t quit in terms of effort but we did quit in terms of believing that the effort could work and then final we weren’t even trying very hard as St. Johns repeated beat us down the court. At the end the St. John’s players could be seen laughing at us.
- The numbers don’t like. We shot 42% inside the arc, 17% outside of it and 57% from the line while the Johnnies were 63%/41%/52%.Frank Howard, Andrew White, John Gillon, Tyler Roberson and Tyus Battle were a combined 6 for 33 from the field (18%). They had 27 assists and 9 turnovers while we had 14 assists and 19 turnovers. They got 32 points off of turnovers to our 9 and 18 fast break points to our 5.
- Actually this number does lie: we out-rebounded them 46-42 and got 21 offensive rebounds to 11. For much of the game we couldn’t get a rebound when we needed it and when we did get them, we didn’t turn them into points. We had so many offensive rebounds because we had so many missed shots and only three of them came in the first half.
- Our walk-ons came in at 1:45, (when was the last time we’ve seen them in the Dome because the other team was hopelessly ahead?) and scored 5 points in that time. Our scholarship players had scored that same amount of points in the previous 5 mintues and 52 seconds.
- Poor DaJuan Coleman. He can’t jump at all. Multiple times he got the ball on beautiful passes underneath the basket and tried to flip the ball into the hoop when any other player of his size would have dunked it. A couple times it rimmed out and he couldn’t get the rebound. St. Johns was then off to another fast break.
- Two sequences typified the game. From 16:52-16:03 this happened: We were down 36-47. John Gillon was fouled. He made the first and missed the second, (something good foul shooters almost never do). Tyler Lydon got the rebound and was fouled. He missed both free throws. DaJuan Coleman got the rebound and got the ball to Andrew White, got the rebound and made the lay-up and was fouled. He missed the free throw but Tyler Lydon got the rebound. Frank Howard missed a jump shot but Andrew White got the rebound. John Gillon missed a three pointer. St. John’s finally rebounded the ball but missed and Gillon was fouled getting the rebound, giving him a one and one. He again made the first and missed the second. That bought the score to 39-47 when it potentially could have been as close as 43-47, (if Gillon had hit the three pointer and the second half of the one and one). We got 6 straight rebounds, the first five of them offensive, and they produced 3 points, which St. John’s negated by hitting a three pointer their next trip down court.
- The other sequence came with 6:29 left. St. John’s lead had grown to 52076 and Frank Howard had had enough. Tyus Battle missed a three. DaJuan Coleman rebounded and got the ball to Howard who drove the lane and tried to throw in a dunk from the rafters- even though he had three guys near the basket he could have passed the ball to. . It missed and clanged back out, starting a St. John’s break that resulted in the exact type of dunk Frank Had been trying on the other end.
- We have now lost to teams that have lost to Wagner, Northeastern, Arkansas State, Delaware State, and Long Island.
- That team that lost to DePaul a decade ago was able to come back and have a great tournament in New York a week later because they had leadership. This team doesn’t. Nobody took control when things were falling apart.
- We thought this would be one of Jim Boeheim’s best teams. Now it appears we have one of his worst teams. It’s the type of team that will get pounded down like a nail into a floorboard by a conference like the ACC. We have bene worrying about our resume but may not matter. We might not be playing in the post season at all. There seems to be a very real possibility that this team will have a losing record and break our nation leading streak of 46 winning seasons in a row – before we can catch UCLA’s all-time record of 54, which I’d really like to see SU do.
