The Penn St Dumpster Fire Thread

[Cusefan95]

This is by far the most bizarre take I have ever seen on this board and I’ve seen a few. OiG worse than Sandusky?

You might want to try improving your reading comprehension skills, since I specifically stated that was NOT the case. One OiG is just a morally reprehensible nut on the internet; that’s trivial compared to Sandusky. 50,000 OiGs committed to extrajudicial justice is the Khmer Rouge.

We can get to 50,000 OiGs. We don’t ever get to 50,000 Sandusky’s.

 

[dwilmont44]

You might want to try improving your reading comprehension skills, since I specifically stated that was NOT the case. One OiG is just a morally reprehensible nut on the internet; that’s trivial compared to Sandusky. 50,000 OiGs committed to extrajudicial justice is the Khmer Rouge.

We can get to 50,000 OiGs. We don’t ever get to 50,000 Sandusky’s.

What ratio would you say tips the scales? 1000 OIGs vs 50 Sanduskys?

 

[GoSU96]

Clark Lea would be a solid choice

 

[phreddie]

What ratio would you say tips the scales? 1000 OIGs vs 50 Sanduskys?

What if it's 1000 duck sized OIGs vs 50 horse sized Sanduskys?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I think PA is one of the states that prohibits state money from being used for sports.

Doesn't matter. Those millions come from somewhere.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Let me know how you expected the AD to be dismantled. Were they going to just voluntarily shut down, or were we supposed to impose a shutdown with no legal right to do so?

If you feel a large business was going to just voluntarily shut down, I question your sanity and understanding of how business works, or ability to grasp the economic impacts of that closure. If you think we were supposed to impose a shutdown with no legal justification, I question your morality (and note that people like you are how you get dystopian nightmares like Satanist USR and the Khmer Rouge).

Frankly I’m far more concerned about people like you than Sandusky. While Sandusky can do more damage to people individually - when people like you band together to impose extrajudicial summary justice, there’s no limit to the damage you and your ilk do. And there’s far more of you than Sandusky’s in the world. (Usually this is where our budding resident Pol Pots start to exclaim there was a way to do it. There wasn’t - not with any existing laws and regulations. And Pol Pot and Stalin could usually fabricate justification for their extrajudicial actions as well).

You’re not morally superior. You just think you are.

Lol sure.

 

[721Comstock]

Clark Lea would be a solid choice

If I’m Cignetti or Lea, I *maybe* have my agent feign interest, to perhaps wangle a better deal from my current program.

Then quickly say “thanks, but no thanks” to State Penn.

They’re both at programs who are thrilled to be competitive,
and who won’t be out with torches & pitchforks the moment they take a few bad L’s.

Even though Rhule hasn’t exactly been crushing it w the Huskies,
he’s got the linkages to Crappy Valley,
and he’d prolly be willing to give it a go.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

What if it's 1000 duck sized OIGs vs 50 horse sized Sanduskys?

Can the duck sized OiGs I mean are you saying I can fly now?

 

[Hoo's That]

If I’m Cignetti or Lea, I *maybe* have my agent feign interest, to perhaps wangle a better deal from my current program.

Then quickly say “thanks, but no thanks” to State Penn.

They’re both at programs who are thrilled to be competitive,
and who won’t be out with torches & pitchforks the moment they take a few bad L’s.

Even though Rhule hasn’t exactly been crushing it w the Huskies,
he’s got the linkages to Crappy Valley,
and he’d prolly be willing to give it a go.

So you're advocating they "Beamer" their present schools?

 

[721Comstock]

So you're advocating they "Beamer" their present schools?

It’s a business.

And that’s the sorta borderline shady shite that agents get paid to do.

Raise to stay or not - I think either of those guys would be insane to take the Pedo St job,
over their current gigs.

 

[Eric15]

When was the last time psu won one?

1986. They beat an insanely good Miami team in the Orange Bowl in the weirdest title game ever.

Miami outgained them 445 to 162. First downs 22 to 8. But Vinny Testaverde threw five picks and PSU won 14-10.

And their 1994 team went 12-0 and was great but they couldn't play Nebraska.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

ability to grasp the economic impacts of that closure.

This is the one part of this I'd like to respond to, because it seems you don't understand that I fully have the ability to grasp the economic impact.

It was decided, and it does sicken me, and I believe sickens many others when they come to the same realization I have, that the harm done to those kids was the fair price to pay to keep a part of State College's economic engine humming.

Money won. As it often does. Even in extreme cases like this.

 

[syracuse95]

Let me know how you expected the AD to be dismantled. Were they going to just voluntarily shut down, or were we supposed to impose a shutdown with no legal right to do so?

If you feel a large business was going to just voluntarily shut down, I question your sanity and understanding of how business works, or ability to grasp the economic impacts of that closure. If you think we were supposed to impose a shutdown with no legal justification, I question your morality (and note that people like you are how you get dystopian nightmares like Satanist USR and the Khmer Rouge).

Frankly I’m far more concerned about people like you than Sandusky. While Sandusky can do more damage to people individually - when people like you band together to impose extrajudicial summary justice, there’s no limit to the damage you and your ilk do. And there’s far more of you than Sandusky’s in the world. (Usually this is where our budding resident Pol Pots start to exclaim there was a way to do it. There wasn’t - not with any existing laws and regulations. And Pol Pot and Stalin could usually fabricate justification for their extrajudicial actions as well).

You’re not morally superior. You just think you are.

Alright, well, that's enough internet for me today...

 

[Marroniac]

Prediction: Fran is gonna come out and say “if they call me I’m hanging up I bleed orange now” and then steal all their croots put penn st on our schedule beat them by 50 and win a couple of natties.

 

[RyanCuse44]

Clark Lea would be a solid choice

Agree but rather see him go somewhere else besides that cesspool.

 

[HtownOrange]

Let me know how you expected the AD to be dismantled. Were they going to just voluntarily shut down, or were we supposed to impose a shutdown with no legal right to do so?

If you feel a large business was going to just voluntarily shut down, I question your sanity and understanding of how business works, or ability to grasp the economic impacts of that closure. If you think we were supposed to impose a shutdown with no legal justification, I question your morality (and note that people like you are how you get dystopian nightmares like Satanist USR and the Khmer Rouge).

Frankly I’m far more concerned about people like you than Sandusky. While Sandusky can do more damage to people individually - when people like you band together to impose extrajudicial summary justice, there’s no limit to the damage you and your ilk do. And there’s far more of you than Sandusky’s in the world. (Usually this is where our budding resident Pol Pots start to exclaim there was a way to do it. There wasn’t - not with any existing laws and regulations. And Pol Pot and Stalin could usually fabricate justification for their extrajudicial actions as well).

You’re not morally superior. You just think you are.

Please do not confuse the two issues. There is never justification for Sandusky's criminal acts. JoePa could have turned him in and hired a new defensive coordinator without missing a step. If you believe Sandusky was that important to PSU victories (I don't think you are), then perhaps you need to reflect on your position. This statement is true of many PSU fans who do believe Sandusky could not be replaced. PSU would have won with me or you as DC, that was the JoePa machine at the time and they certainly had the resources to hire a top level DC in lieu of Sandusky.

(Steps off soap box)

 

[Chip]

Prediction: Fran is gonna come out and say “if they call me I’m hanging up I bleed orange now” and then steal all their croots put penn st on our schedule beat them by 50 and win a couple of natties.

Prediction: Someone will ask Fran about Penn State early in the press conference, he will reiterate that he's the coach of Syracuse and they're preparing for Pitt. Ten minutes later, Javon will ask the same question, but word it differently.

 

[Eric15]

You can use $40 million to fire James Franklin, or 267ish undergrads could leave Penn State debt free.

It's always interesting that whenever there are legitimate needs for money (in education, health care, poverty, infrastructure) things always seem tight, but when you have to make a coach go away whose societal responsibility it is to have guys run around a field in helmets with a piece of leather, tens of million of dollars magically fall from the clouds.

 

[OburgOrange]

 

[HtownOrange]

Prediction: Someone will ask Fran about Penn State early in the press conference, he will reiterate that he's the coach of Syracuse and they're preparing for Pitt. Ten minutes later, Javon will ask the same question, but word it differently.

You are not wrong, but is it really a prediction? I mean, it's more of an expectation in my book.

 

[jr4750]

You know what they say when there’s blood on the streets…

 

[OrangeXtreme]

You know what they say when there’s blood on the streets…

Taco Tuesday didn't go over really well?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

It's always interesting that whenever there are legitimate needs for money (in education, health care, poverty, infrastructure) things always seem tight, but when you have to make a coach go away whose societal responsibility it is to have guys run around a field in helmets with a piece of leather, tens of million of dollars magically fall from the clouds.

Yeah.

Weird.

 

[Oakland]

FWIW, any time a college administrator cries poverty they should be berated mercilessly. Pay a guy $49 million NOT to coach. Flipping absurd.

Of course the B1G needs a shot of that sweet sweet PE money. They're fiscally inept. Might as way give away future profit so they can pay guys not to coach.

What a corrupt, obscene, broken sport. Every day I appreciate pro sports more. College athletics is gross.

They do 10 year contracts with long term buyouts, yet they will fire coaches after half a bad season. I don't understand why they give contracts longer than 4 years.

 

[Oakland]

You know what they say when there’s blood on the streets…

Hell yeah!