The Penn St Dumpster Fire Thread

[orangefog]

This is a huge opportunity for Fran to take control of northeast football. We need to commit to him and his staff so that they can bring in some of the recruits that Ped State is losing.

 

[Eric15]

Contrition?

I'll never understand the viewpoint that Penn State has been punished enough, or giving them a pass when a significant portion of their reprehensible fans continue to believe this day that they were the victims on that their program was punished unfairly.

Certainly not all of them, but many.

RF unfortunately I think what you're describing is extremely common in sports fandom. Penn State is probably the most heinous possible example. Lots of fans all over the country and world make exceptions for their personal value system when it's their own team. This honestly feels like it could be a PhD dissertation topic.. "how tribal association with one's favorite team influences their value system.'

A significant portion of Ravens fans act shocked and appalled and make pathetic excuses if you bring up how Ray Lewis was almost certainly involved in a double murder. Same thing with Kobe's sexual assault situation, or Jim Brown's disturbing history of domestic violence. I've seen videos of OJ Simpson visiting Bills home games, and idiot fans being excited to see him and asking for a picture. All those same people would never in a million years support murder or rape, but there's just something about sports allegiance that makes a segment of the population completely insane.

Maybe this is self-selection bias because I try to associate with non-horrible people, but I know a lot of PSU fans (there are tons in my neighborhood) and the majority of them think Paterno is a scumbag and were happy his statue was taken down.

 

[wfschrec]

The "idea" comes from numerous Penn State fans I've spoken with over the years, scattered across dozens of conversations, who condemn what happened while simultaneously glorifying Paterno. This includes numerous, lengthy arguments with someone from Pennsylvania who is a PSU fan that I am close with.

Djorange summed it up perfectly above -- the deification is bizarre. They should have gotten death penalty, they didn't, and they feel vindicated because they got the wins back. They weren't punished severely enough.

If you disagree, that's fine.

The fan base is disgusting and embarrassing

Paterno tribute videos draw ovation, protests

For the 50th anniversary of Joe Paterno's first game as coach, Penn State decided to honor him with several videos and by having two co-captains from his first team participate in the coin toss.

www.espn.com

https://www.psucollegian.com/sandusky/recounting-penn-state-s-largest-riot-after-the-firing-of-joe-paterno/article_5e0690ac-5390-11ec-a8a0-9f57ebcadec7.html

There were riots and protests over Paternos firing.

 

[Blanko97]

The "idea" comes from numerous Penn State fans I've spoken with over the years, scattered across dozens of conversations, who condemn what happened while simultaneously glorifying Paterno. This includes numerous, lengthy arguments with someone from Pennsylvania who is a PSU fan that I am close with.

Djorange summed it up perfectly above -- the deification is bizarre. They should have gotten death penalty, they didn't, and they feel vindicated because they got the wins back. They weren't punished severely enough.

If you disagree, that's fine.

I do vehemently disagree. I don’t believe there are people out there who dismiss child molestation

 

[RF2044]

I do vehemently disagree. I don’t believe there are people out there who dismiss child molestation

Then I would suggest you're myopically focusing on only one aspect of this, while ignoring the other things I'm talking about. I. e., nobody disagrees that child molestation is bad, but their subsequent behavior and actions defending the program and Joe Paterno, and railing against the NCAA for being punished are MASSIVELY incongruent with that position. If you "vehemently disagree" with that, then I'd prefer to disengage.

I really don't want to make this personal blanko, nothing against you, but I am happy to see that there are others in this thread who feel the same way that I do about that loathsome fan base.

 

[RF2044]

The fan base is disgusting and embarrassing

Paterno tribute videos draw ovation, protests

For the 50th anniversary of Joe Paterno's first game as coach, Penn State decided to honor him with several videos and by having two co-captains from his first team participate in the coin toss.

www.espn.com

https://www.psucollegian.com/sandusky/recounting-penn-state-s-largest-riot-after-the-firing-of-joe-paterno/article_5e0690ac-5390-11ec-a8a0-9f57ebcadec7.html

There were riots and protests over Paternos firing.

Disgusting.

Thank you.

 

[Trueblue25]

Everything said, if I had any say at all I’d be calling up the hill and saying nows the time to roll the dice. We ’d up with Dino but our windows open, get an extension on the table tonight.

 

[cuse62]

My first thought is do they hire someone with something offensive in their background like Paterno and Franklin.

My second thought, Norvell could be looking for a job. (This one was supposed to be funny, it is not serious.)

 

[orange_in_VA]

Expert in fantasy, obviously.

Penn State is not hiring Fran Brown.

Cignetti has done more and obviously fits the mold.

Hell Brent Key is more likely.

Brent Key is absolutely not more likely than Fran Brown in this scenario. Lol

Key grew up in Alabama, has never lived further north than North Carolina and is the HC of his Alma Mater.

 

[Briancuse]

I do vehemently disagree. I don’t believe there are people out there who dismiss child molestation

Have you met some penn st fans? they are a cult.

 

[orange79]

I do vehemently disagree. I don’t believe there are people out there who dismiss child molestation

That may be true.

But it is crystal clear that there are people (I'm looking at you, Penn St. fans) that value their school's wins over any sort of punishment for turning their backs on child molestation.

 

[HtownOrange]

owe him $49M dollars lol. Great work if you can get it.

Pfffftttttt! Any of us would gladly screw up PSU football for half that salary!

 

[sufan59]

Brent Key is absolutely not more likely than Fran Brown in this scenario. Lol

Key grew up in Alabama, has never lived further north than North Carolina and is the HC of his Alma Mater.

It’s not 0 percent, if Penn State expresses any interest, are we so sure Fran won’t at least listen? Syracuse may have to show it cards in this one. Whatever those cards signal.

 

[JKinUtah]

On the heels of the Sandusky/Paterno abuse the school hired a head coach allegedly involved in a r@pe cover up at his previous school. They deserve all the bad thrown their way and then much more.

 

[RF2044]

That may be true.

But it is crystal clear that there are people (I'm looking at you, Penn St. fans) that value their school's wins over any sort of punishment for turning their backs on child molestation.

And that's the distinction that I've been talking about.

Nailed it.

 

[sufan59]

This is an irrational thought, right?

 

[orange_in_VA]

This is an irrational thought, right?

This would be such a classic Cuse kick in the nuts

 

[Cusefan78]

If Adidas is paying off the contract, it’s time for su to start shopping around

 

[Oakland]

If Adidas is paying off the contract, it’s time for su to start shopping around

I find it very hard to believe that any shoe company would pay and $49 mil buyout.

 

[FloridaCuse]

If Adidas is paying off the contract, it’s time for su to start shopping around

MORE B1G Sellout to private business.

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[orange79]

It makes me laugh when Front Office Sports refers to themselves as FOS.

 

[Orangello]

Satan is available and would bring Jerry Sandusky as his defensive coordinator.