The refs and announcers

[SWC75]

I understand he stayed in his feet, but it is placed where he was first contacted. Had the defender let go of him and then he was tackled in end zone would be a safety

He never went forward - or even tried - and retreated into the end zone to avoid being tackled and was tackled in the end zone. And they put it down at the 3, which is not where 'first contact' took place.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

I find ACC refs to be overly reliant on replay. Seems like they are always double checking.

 

[JustPherU]

He never went forward and retreated into the end zone to avoid being tackled and was tackled in the end zone.

Ok, I guess the first contact part ain’t getting through.

 

[rrlbees]

After 2 replays, my original call at the game stands. It wasn’t a safety.

 

[SWC75]

I find ACC refs to be overly reliant on replay. Seems like they are always double checking.

Yes, and with committee meetings after every call.

 

[SWC75]

Ok, I guess the first contact part ain’t getting through.

It was a good flick.

 

[SWC75]

But this one was better.

 

[Newhouser]

I find ACC refs to be overly reliant on replay. Seems like they are always double checking.

It's the safe play for a stripe to avoid trouble post game. I think the review process for the stripes says when its close throw the flag. getting overruled is better than not calling anything.

 

[All4SU]

After 2 replays, my original call at the game stands. It wasn’t a safety.

So it wasn’t “confirmed.”

 

[Orangepace]

I couldn't find a rule that covered this, (forward progress when a quarterback is moving backwards). Do you have a link? Also, why did they place it at the 3?

I’m questioning why they put it at the 3 myself. Still don’t understand the concept of that. But I don’t have the time nor care to prove your trolling wrong. So carry on.

 

[Chip]

After 2 replays, my original call at the game stands. It wasn’t a safety.

Not being a safety I can understand.

Putting the ball at the 3 yard line, I cannot understand. He backed himself up as the rush was coming. Should have been at the 1, probably inside it.

 

[sutomcat]

Ok, I guess the first contact part ain’t getting through.

I understand what you are saying.

But I think the rule is more nuanced than that.

I have seen many instances over the years where a player gets the ball at yard line X, runs into traffic, the defense makes contact and even gets hold of the player, who then decides to run backwards to elude the defense and eventually find a lane to move forward. Or maybe to gain some time to get off a throw.

If this happens and the player gets tackled behind there the initial contact occurred, the ball inevitably is spotted where the player is ultimately tackled.

I think the player gives up the right for forward progress by continuing to try and elude the defense.

I don't know the rulebook well but I am pretty sure there is wording on this, because it happens all the time.

If Armstrong just gave up and stopped moving, I would have no problem with the ball being spotted at the 2 (or wherever the initial contact occurred).

The problem is that he didn't. He was too competitive for that. He is really good at getting away from defenders. Did it all game long. He tried to do it again here and failed.

That clear attempt to escape from the tackler and extend the play is what should have resulted in a safety call. IMHO.

 

[rrlbees]

Not being a safety I can understand.

Putting the ball at the 3 yard line, I cannot understand. He backed himself up as the rush was coming. Should have been at the 1, probably inside it.

The spot was ridiculous.

 

[ClkWrkOrange]

Like you have a team for this stuff. Still better than the UConn game

Now there's a low bar.