Things I want to see

[anomander]

Let's try to control the controllable. There are a few things I would like to see us improve on/change as the season progresses. Most are very attainable.


1. Penalties. Absolutely no way we should average 3-4 false starts a game. A lot that come in key situations. We aren't good enough, or explosiveness on offense to be behind the chains, giving up yardage. We are usually good for an illegal formation, or illegal substitution a game as well.

2. Utilize players strengths. Should be pretty easy, or maybe it's just me. These are the guys being paid a ton of money to coach football, but I just can't comprehend, or even begin to understand the reasoning behind only giving Custis (6'6 230 and can run) on strictly bubble screens. I would think you would want to create a match up to utilize his speed vs a safety, or size vs a LB. Same goes for Ameen-Moore. Why run him to the outside, and Erv on the inside? Ron Thompson is one of the only defenders that jump off the screen when he is at DE, but we insist on forcing him to play in the interior DL where he is out weighed by about 50lbs. He does his best, but his strength is at DE. Then again what the hell do I know i'm just some internet board poster.

3. Special teams. Painfully this area of the game seem to never improve. Punt returns, blocked punts, missed field goals, blocked PAT's, and on and on and on. Not sure if this is too controllable, but once again we aren't good enough to give away points.

4. Stop the over celebration. Yes, i'm looking at you Rob Welsh, and Josh Kirkland. There is absolutely no need to pound your helmet after making 1 meaningless play,in the past 3 games, late in the 4th quarter. It makes us look selfish. Act like you've done it before, or at very worst do it while we are actually in the game.

 

[ImperialOrange]

35+ points on offense and no field goal attempts. 4th and 10 inside their 40? Throw it past the sticks and hope for a catch or defensive penalty. I'm done with field goals after the past how many years of struggling.

 

[CanadianSU]

Add Desir chirping as well

 

[Rocco]

Let's try to control the controllable. There are a few things I would like to see us improve on/change as the season progresses. Most are very attainable.


1. Penalties. Absolutely no way we should average 3-4 false starts a game. A lot that come in key situations. We aren't good enough, or explosiveness on offense to be behind the chains, giving up yardage. We are usually good for an illegal formation, or illegal substitution a game as well.

2. Utilize players strengths. Should be pretty easy, or maybe it's just me. These are the guys being paid a ton of money to coach football, but I just can't comprehend, or even begin to understand the reasoning behind only giving Custis (6'6 230 and can run) on strictly bubble screens. I would think you would want to create a match up to utilize his speed vs a safety, or size vs a LB. Same goes for Ameen-Moore. Why run him to the outside, and Erv on the inside? Ron Thompson is one of the only defenders that jump off the screen when he is at DE, but we insist on forcing him to play in the interior DL where he is out weighed by about 50lbs. He does his best, but his strength is at DE. Then again what the hell do I know i'm just some internet board poster.

3. Special teams. Painfully this area of the game seem to never improve. Punt returns, blocked punts, missed field goals, blocked PAT's, and on and on and on. Not sure if this is too controllable, but once again we aren't good enough to give away points.

4. Stop the over celebration. Yes, i'm looking at you Rob Welsh, and Josh Kirkland. There is absolutely no need to pound your helmet after making 1 meaningless play,in the past 3 games, late in the 4th quarter. It makes us look selfish. Act like you've done it before, or at very worst do it while we are actually in the game.

Well said and pretty much agree with everything.

The biggest thing that pisses me off is the over-celebration on a tackle after a 3 yard gain. There really haven't been many great plays by this D this year, so get to work and do your job. When I do something good at work, I don't jump around surprised. These guys should expect to be great. Act like you've been there and get right back to work on making another great play.

The discipline on this team is really piss-pour right now and that goes right back to Shafer & Co.

Really need to wake up and put a foot up Louisville's ass.

 

[Crusty]

Let's try to control the controllable. There are a few things I would like to see us improve on/change as the season progresses. Most are very attainable.


1. Penalties. Absolutely no way we should average 3-4 false starts a game. A lot that come in key situations. We aren't good enough, or explosiveness on offense to be behind the chains, giving up yardage. We are usually good for an illegal formation, or illegal substitution a game as well.

2. Utilize players strengths. Should be pretty easy, or maybe it's just me. These are the guys being paid a ton of money to coach football, but I just can't comprehend, or even begin to understand the reasoning behind only giving Custis (6'6 230 and can run) on strictly bubble screens. I would think you would want to create a match up to utilize his speed vs a safety, or size vs a LB. Same goes for Ameen-Moore. Why run him to the outside, and Erv on the inside? Ron Thompson is one of the only defenders that jump off the screen when he is at DE, but we insist on forcing him to play in the interior DL where he is out weighed by about 50lbs. He does his best, but his strength is at DE. Then again what the hell do I know i'm just some internet board poster.

3. Special teams. Painfully this area of the game seem to never improve. Punt returns, blocked punts, missed field goals, blocked PAT's, and on and on and on. Not sure if this is too controllable, but once again we aren't good enough to give away points.

4. Stop the over celebration. Yes, i'm looking at you Rob Welsh, and Josh Kirkland. There is absolutely no need to pound your helmet after making 1 meaningless play,in the past 3 games, late in the 4th quarter. It makes us look selfish. Act like you've done it before, or at very worst do it while we are actually in the game.

Agree on 1, 3 and 4 but don't know enough to comment on 2. I thought we would see a lot of slants with Custis and I will never understand AAM going East to West. Not so sure about Erv he seems to have good vision and hits the holes like a flash. That said, I suspect he might show up at H-Back now. Either that or we will have to send OttoinGrotto in.

 

[anomander]

Well said and pretty much agree with everything.

The biggest thing that pisses me off is the over-celebration on a tackle after a 3 yard gain. There really haven't been many great plays by this D this year, so get to work and do your job. When I do something good at work, I don't jump around surprised. These guys should expect to be great. Act like you've been there and get right back to work on making another great play.

The discipline on this team is really piss-pour right now and that goes right back to Shafer & Co.

Really need to wake up and put a foot up Louisville's ass.

That's the frustrating part because I do feel we are good enough to at very worst compete. imo we haven't even come close to an "A" game and we have been semi-competitive (scoreboard wise) in each game. A play here, a play there, no penalty here, no penalty there, and who knows what happens. Basically we aren't good enough yet to give away yards and points.

The celebration things drive me nuts. Just gives me the impression that our guys are either not game savvy, selfish, or just think your out there to have fun. Between that and the penalties I leave each game with a pounding headache.

I just want to leave the game and say ok we lost, but we did our best, the other team was just better. Sure not many games will be perfect, but I don't think we have had better then a C+ performance all season.

 

[Full_Rebar]

I just want to leave the game and say ok we lost, but we did our best, the other team was just better. Sure not many games will be perfect, but I don't think we have had better then a C+ performance all season.

Spot on. I am not sure why some people think losing by double-digits the last two weeks indicates anything better.

 

[Crusty]

At some point you would think the staff would sit your butt down and say hey, Crusty do you understand how foolish you look out there when you celebrate a simple tackle when we are losing the game? I just can't have you out there if you are going to make a fool of yourself. But no, it is gee Crusty, what color other than Orange do you like?

If you are in command, Shafer - command!

 

[upperdeck]

At some point you would think the staff would sit your butt down and say hey, Crusty do you understand how foolish you look out there when you celebrate a simple tackle when we are losing the game? I just can't have you out there if you are going to make a fool of yourself. But no, it is gee Crusty, what color other than Orange do you like?

If you are in command, Shafer - command!

one thing we forget that is the emotion carries to other players.. making a play and celebration does make others play better. while we see simple plays, the energy it might be creating to the other players is lost on us.

 

[anomander]

one thing we forget that is the emotion carries to other players.. making a play and celebration does make others play better. while we see simple plays, the energy it might be creating to the other players is lost on us.

I have no problem with the celebrating when winning, or in an emotional, close game. It's the uncalled for celebrating, down multiple scores, late in the game.

 

[orangepassion]

Just to cover one of your points, i imagine they have AAM sometimes go outside and Phillips sometimes go inside, to make it less predictable for the Defense.

 

[orangeinohio]

At some point you would think the staff would sit your butt down and say hey, Crusty do you understand how foolish you look out there when you celebrate a simple tackle when we are losing the game? I just can't have you out there if you are going to make a fool of yourself. But no, it is gee Crusty, what color other than Orange do you like?

If you are in command, Shafer - command!

I don't know...Shafer is a really emotional guy. I'd bet he doesn't like the stupid celebrations but he maybe tolerates it because he somehow sees it as a small drawback of being fired up?
Just speculatin'

 

[Crusty]

one thing we forget that is the emotion carries to other players.. making a play and celebration does make others play better. while we see simple plays, the energy it might be creating to the other players is lost on us.

I get that point but we used to look at stuff like that as just plain nuts (just before the invention of the wheel). Real emotion is spontaneous and not manufactured.

 

[RICuse44]

Nail on the head with this one. The Ron Thompson thing drives me crazy. I expect more out of Daoust. I did like Micah over the nose in Okie- IMO flip flop these two or put Welsh down there instead of Thompson. Any thing to get him on the edge. Its like the Patriots and defensive genius Bill Belichek putting Chandler Jones inside (which he did the first game but that's what you get from a Weslyan grad). Then maybe we could generate some pressure from the front four and not have to blitz all the time.

I would also like to see the following:
1. The Durrell Eskridge who made the pick six, not the one who has been out there the rest of the year
2. Jet sweeps with Estime
3. Diamond backfield with AAM deep, PTG and McFarlane on the wings (or Erv here)
4. More Hodge and Davis, less Arcinega and Kirkland
5. Raymon at any point this year provided he is healthy

 

[Libero2]

I have no problem with the celebrating when winning, or in an emotional, close game. It's the uncalled for celebrating, down multiple scores, late in the game.

I haven't seen anything too "out of line" as far as late celebrations. Yes you don't want to see it, but they are college kids playing a game, they aren't hardened pros. Believe it or not, they actually are out there to have some fun.

I imagine part of the celebrating is a bit of over-celebrating in an attempt to up the energy levels of the team as a whole. When the team is fired up and the energy is flowing, everybody plays better (anybody who has ever played a sport at even the high school level should be able to understand this). When your play between the whistles matters more than the stuff after whistles (unless you go and do something invariably stupid costing your team field position), getting yourself fired up to help you play better (even when the game is out of hand) makes a difference.

Now that said there are plenty of guys who can go out there and make a play without jumping around like they've lost it, but some guys just need to do something crazy to keep themselves going.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Agree on 1, 3 and 4 but don't know enough to comment on 2. I thought we would see a lot of slants with Custis and I will never understand AAM going East to West. Not so sure about Erv he seems to have good vision and hits the holes like a flash. That said, I suspect he might show up at H-Back now. Either that or we will have to send OttoinGrotto in.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

You had me at #1. That reminds me of some bad games we've had in the last however long it has been.

 

[AZOrange]

Uh hh... I don't think so pal...

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Uh hh... I don't think so pal...

Oh, I see why there was a misunderstanding. That's totally you. I'm off camera making the catch and then making plays, because that's what playmakers do.

 

[AZOrange]

Oh, I see why there was a misunderstanding. That's totally you. I'm off camera making the catch and then making plays, because that's what playmakers do.

Perfect. My favorite phrase when playing was "go long".

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Perfect. My favorite phrase when playing was "go long".

If you think about it, where else is there to go?

 

[MSOrange]

If you think about it, where else is there to go?

Parallel to the quarterback at the line of scrimmage??

 

[AZOrange]

If you think about it, where else is there to go?

Look, this might be my favorite random subplot in a movie...