Ptzburghcuse
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I was reading some of the posts regarding the tough times SU is currently experiencing stating it is time for JB to step aside and let someone else take the reigns - it really does show how most of us today live in the absolute now.
I saw a suggestions that Brey or Beilein would certainly do better with the guys on our team than JB. That got me to thinking what these two guys have done in their coaching careers that would warrant such a switch.
After a bit of digging it became apparent that neither of these guys would have even been here in 2019 to try with this group as most of you guys on this board would have called for their heads long before.
You see, Brey at Notre Dame had coaching records of:
20-10 2000
22-11 2001
19-13 2003
17-12 2004
16-14 2005
21-15 2008
22-12 2011
15-17 2013
14-18 2018
Two sub 0.500 years - nine seasons with double digit losses - There is no way on Earth you guys would stand for that!
But surely Beilein is better right?
Well with West Virginia he had these years:
14-15 2002
17-14 2003
24-11 2004
22-11 2005
and at Michigan:
10-22 2007
21-14 2008
15-17 2009
21-14 2010
16-16 2014
23-13 2015
26-12 2016
Three losing seasons! eleven double digit losing seasons - no way.
Did both of those coaches have their share of success? Surely. Did they have as much success as JB - absolutely not. Neither coach has a better career winning percentage relative to JB - despite the fact JB has coached far longer than either.
I would venture to say that most of us, myself included, fall for the grass is always greener with someone else trap but before you do please check out SWC's summary on following a legend.
JB is far from perfect and yes I would love to have the 30-5 type seasons again - being ranked #1 late in the season and annual runs at a Final Four but damn JB has been a good one and with the right pieces I think we can have another great team.
"Buck up little camper - we'll beat that slope together." - Charles De Mar
GO SU!
I saw a suggestions that Brey or Beilein would certainly do better with the guys on our team than JB. That got me to thinking what these two guys have done in their coaching careers that would warrant such a switch.
After a bit of digging it became apparent that neither of these guys would have even been here in 2019 to try with this group as most of you guys on this board would have called for their heads long before.
You see, Brey at Notre Dame had coaching records of:
20-10 2000
22-11 2001
19-13 2003
17-12 2004
16-14 2005
21-15 2008
22-12 2011
15-17 2013
14-18 2018
Two sub 0.500 years - nine seasons with double digit losses - There is no way on Earth you guys would stand for that!
But surely Beilein is better right?
Well with West Virginia he had these years:
14-15 2002
17-14 2003
24-11 2004
22-11 2005
and at Michigan:
10-22 2007
21-14 2008
15-17 2009
21-14 2010
16-16 2014
23-13 2015
26-12 2016
Three losing seasons! eleven double digit losing seasons - no way.
Did both of those coaches have their share of success? Surely. Did they have as much success as JB - absolutely not. Neither coach has a better career winning percentage relative to JB - despite the fact JB has coached far longer than either.
I would venture to say that most of us, myself included, fall for the grass is always greener with someone else trap but before you do please check out SWC's summary on following a legend.
JB is far from perfect and yes I would love to have the 30-5 type seasons again - being ranked #1 late in the season and annual runs at a Final Four but damn JB has been a good one and with the right pieces I think we can have another great team.
"Buck up little camper - we'll beat that slope together." - Charles De Mar
GO SU!