Tracking the ACC vs Other Leagues (2025/2026)

[Orangezoo]

Records in games between B12, B10, ACC, SEC, BE

B12 35-22*
B10 25-22
ACC 29-32 **
SEC 26-34
BE 16-22

* B12 is 12-2 vs the SEC

** As an aside the ACC was 20-54 in head to head games last year when I stopped tracking near Dec 20.

Not that it matters and skews the data but I’m curious where the records are if you take out games involving the bottom 2 teams of each conference..

 

[PhatOrange]

I see Iowa State completely bitch slapped #1 Purdue.

 

[blust2i3d4]

SEC has four losses this Sunday. Three to P5 and one to nobody.

 

[jncuse]

SEC has four losses this Sunday. Three to P5 and one to nobody.

I was just about to post that.

This was after they went 0-5 on Saturday against the P5.
So 0-8 on the weekend against the P5, and one Q3 loss to another team.

We will see if they are still #1 in conference NET tomorrow. If so will further show the importance of Q4 game margin on the NET. They are moving further down into #4 in conference RPI.


They have fell from 58-19 last year in head to head, to 26-37 this year,
Even if the NET is favourable for them, its not like it was like last year, and member teams won't all have a bunch of OOC wins.

 

[jncuse]

Not that it matters and skews the data but I’m curious where the records are if you take out games involving the bottom 2 teams of each conference..

I could probably come up with it after a bit of work.

But I think what you are sort of wondering about is how bad the "crap" of the ACC is hurting us, or will hurt is, compared to the "Crap" of the other conferences.

I updated the following table for this week.

If we looks at teams #14-18.
- We are basically the same as the BIG.
- A fair bit worse than the SEC, and a bit worse than the B12.

I think the BIG/ACC/B12 are probably all hoping these crap teams play a bit better to close OOC, but then mind their own ******* business in conference play and don't start handing better teams bad losses in conference.

 

[jncuse]

Same table as above post.

It is interesting that the ACC has moved from 3 top 30 teams last week to 7 top 30 teams this week. Which is basically in line with all the others, Also 4 teams in top 20 in NET, which is inline with others as well.

But 1-18, they are staying pretty consistent with the BIG and B12. B12 is above on most lines, but not drastically so. The BIG is pretty close to even.

The SEC is stronger through the middle and the bottom. There teams have done better at beating others in The Q4 game.

 

[Niastri]

I could probably come up with it after a bit of work.

But I think what you are sort of wondering about is how bad the "crap" of the ACC is hurting us, or will hurt is, compared to the "Crap" of the other conferences.

I updated the following table for this week.

If we looks at teams #14-18.
- We are basically the same as the BIG.
- A fair bit worse than the SEC, and a bit worse than the B12.

I think the BIG/ACC/B12 are probably all hoping these crap teams play a bit better to close OOC, but then mind their own ******* business in conference play and don't start handing better teams bad losses in conference.





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It's crazy to think that as embarrassing as Georgia Tech and BC have been so far, they are better than last year's worst teams.

 

[DomeHolmes]

I was just about to post that.

This was after they went 0-5 on Saturday against the P5.
So 0-8 on the weekend against the P5, and one Q3 loss to another team.

We will see if they are still #1 in conference NET tomorrow. If so will further show the importance of Q4 game margin on the NET. They are moving further down into #4 in conference RPI.


They have fell from 58-19 last year in head to head, to 26-37 this year,
Even if the NET is favourable for them, its not like it was like last year, and member teams won't all have a bunch of OOC wins.

Not only is the SEC losing games, but they’re losing an extraordinary amount of games where they were favored.

 

[Niastri]

Not only is the SEC losing games, but they’re losing an extraordinary amount of games where they were favored.

I think this is partially a reflection of the fact that the SEC is still getting a fair amount of bias from previous seasons performance even 6 weeks into the season.

 

[jncuse]

When I stopped covering this, the ACC seemed relatively close to the other big 3 conferences. I didn't think anybody had dominated the OOC overall... SEC dominated the Q4 margin which has helped its NET (ACC did well in that too though, and the B10 and B12 not so much). That being said the B10 and especially B12 did better in quality head to head matchups, and the SEC sucked in those.

Looking at the Bracket Matrix it has pretty much turned out fairly even. But the SEC did benefit from being able to win the margin game in OOC, without doing well in quality games, showing the holes in the formula.

ACC - 8, plus 2 "first 8 out"
B10 - 9, plus 2
B12 - 8, plus 0
SEC - 11, plus 0

 

[jncuse]

I had also noted that once you get out of the "Top 4" conferences, the BE and the MWC were both well down in OOC play compared to prior year. And it is reflected in the matrix - league members are just struggling to built up quality resumes since the NETS across the conference are down.

Big East only has 3 teams in.
MWC only has 2.

 

[jncuse]

The ACC has done well enough, that if Syracuse took care of business, I think it gets in at 11-7 in the ACC, by winning the most winnable games. But of course they did not.