Trebor Pena transferring to PSU

[721Comstock]

Lol Shrmdougluvr why did you throw a stiletto asking a question to confirm he graduated?

That particular poster is very loose with the shoes.

I’d wager they have the highest “stilettos to likes” ratio on the board, by a country mile.


And my next one from them likely inbound in 3, 2, 1….

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Nor do we. He played for the paycheck. Just like I do. I work for a paycheck. If I have a chance for a better one, I will leave. But I don't expect people to give a chit about me when I do.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

That particular poster is very loose with the shoes.

I’d wager they have the highest “stilettos to likes” ratio on the board, by a country mile.


And my next one from them likely inbound in 3, 2, 1….

I threw a stiletto to try to throw 'em off.

We'll see if it works.

I'll take it away later.

I'll probably forget.

But know where my heart was.

 

[kingtidge]

I am strongly opposed to this proposal.

The reason an imbalance was created was because the schools overly benefited from the student athletes. Pandora's box is open, we're not going back to that.

The school has no right to the long term value of an individual attending the institution. You're essentially advocating for a wage garnishment.

I would argue that is 100% false.

Taking Euro league pro soccer for example...

When a player is sold to another team, often times, the selling club gets a "sell-on" clause in the transfer contract (a set amount of money paid back the the selling club if the player is transferred again to a like league team within a specified amount of time - say 3 years.) ... If the player get's sold twice in 3 years, the original club gets a cut.

Why?

Because the club has invested time and $$$ in developing the player that is being sold and it's an accepted business practice that some of that development cost is returned to the club on a player that is moving on to bigger/better.

In this case, do you think Syracuse invested time and money into developing Pena into the player he is today?

Obviously, the answer is yes.

Now you could argue that's just the cost of doing business - ok... but there are precedents in other pro sports to recoup some of the value of player development.

 

[Archimedes]

My favorite player is gone.

1.) He bailed us out a lot last year on 3rd down. NC State, GaTech, Miami, Cal. He seemed like a guy who wanted the ball in big spots.

2.) He was fun to watch after the catch. There was an amazing catch and run at the start of the third quarter against Miami that set the tone for the rest of the game.

3.) I trusted him as a return man.

4.) All that said, Kyle made a lot of great throws on very well-designed plays for Trebor's many TDs. I won't say anyone could catch them. I doubt he will receive the same service from Carson Beck or anyone else.

 

[rocfan44]

We found out what we had in Sean Tucker when we needed it, remember how far down the depth chart he was! My hope is that we have that same “diamond in the rough” somewhere in that WR room that maybe wouldn’t have gotten his chance with Pena here. I have faith that this staff will figure it out or already had plans in place as a worst case scenario.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I would argue that is 100% false.

Taking Euro league pro soccer for example...

When a player is sold to another team, often times, the selling club gets a "sell-on" clause in the transfer contract (a set amount of money paid back the the selling club if the player is transferred again to a like league team within a specified amount of time - say 3 years.) ... If the player get's sold twice in 3 years, the original club gets a cut.

Why?

Because the club has invested time and $$$ in developing the player that is being sold and it's an accepted business practice that some of that development cost is returned to the club on a player that is moving on to bigger/better.

In this case, do you think Syracuse invested time and money into developing Pena into the player he is today?

Obviously, the answer is yes.

Now you could argue that's just the cost of doing business - ok... but there are precedents in other pro sports to recoup the value of player development.

Your argument is invalid, soccer blows.

 

[orangecuse]

If that was the case, he could and should have left in December. He agreed to a deal to stay. Syracuse honors its end of the contract -- he decided not to. Someone came along and offered him more and Syracuse decided not to change the deal. At some point kids have to realize that's how the real world works. There will always be the opportunity to chase money or something else -- you decide what you want to prioritize. I dont begrudge any kid who chases the opportunity to maximize their worth. But at the same time, the school and Fran has every right to say no.

Well, of course not. That would fall on the parents or legal guardians of that "kid."

 

[Blanko97]

I agree with almost everything except that we are deep and loaded. I think we are in for a bad season. Forget our road schedule for just a moment. We have two games at home against teams that beat us last season and 2 more games against Duke and UNC that will be very rough.

yeah, 5 wins might be good this year. unproven QB, unproven receivers, unproven O-line, weaknesses at linebacker, not exactly screaming "ACC contender."

 

[kingtidge]

Your argument is invalid, soccer blows.

 

[VA Citrus]

Nor do we. He played for the paycheck. Just like I do. I work for a paycheck. If I have a chance for a better one, I will leave. But I don't expect people to give a chit about me when I do.

Exactly. His best God given skills have an expiration date. Make sure you're getting paid as much as you can for them. We'll be fine. There are other teams that wouldn't be.

 

[DoctorBombay]

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!! BYE TREBOR. THE NLI AND WHO HAS THE MOST $ IS RUINING CFB FOOTBALL

My "rainbows and lollipops" naivete was extinguished a few years back when Jesse Edwards abruptly left the bball team for WVU, because he received a bigger bag. Nevermind that he was gonna be the focal point of the team, one that had a chance to maybe contend and certainly make the tournament. He literally crapped on the program that gave him his chance, developed him, supported him...and instead took the cash.
Like it or not thats how the game is played now in college athletics. It's not about loyalty, or honor, or "giving your word", etc. Cynical, yes- but 100% true, IMO. It's all about the Benjamin's. The only question that remains is how much longer will fanbases put up w/ this new reality, before giving up & jumping ship.

 

[CuseLegacy]

That particular poster is very loose with the shoes.

I’d wager they have the highest “stilettos to likes” ratio on the board, by a country mile.


And my next one from them likely inbound in 3, 2, 1….

Behave or you may get a stiletto from me.

 

[Acesn8s]

This surely is less the ideal, however he is a WR who improved greatly but had Kyle McCord throwing to him, this must boost our NIl funds and if we can turn that into a starting lineman or CB then it is what it is. Unless it’s a NFL first two round type of talent I would never over pay for WR or RB. I don’t enjoy the transfer portal or the NIL but it is what it is, and I’d rather lose a WR than a QB.

 

[JeffCuse]

Exactly. His best God given skills have an expiration date. Make sure you're getting paid as much as you can for them. We'll be fine. There are other teams that wouldn't be.

But just to underscore my perspective, he has every right to go, and as fans we have every right to not really care about him after he leaves. I'm almost 50 and for 30 years I've never understood the "I wish him well" sentiment. There's a difference between wishing someone ill will (which is juvenile) and just not caring a lick once that uniform is off. That's where I am.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

Our special teams coach just shared in an interview that Fran wanted Trebor to get five TDs on returns this year. Man this thing happened quickly

 

[nocohalo]

But just to underscore my perspective, he has every right to go, and as fans we have every right to not really care about him after he leaves. I'm almost 50 and for 30 years I've never understood the "I wish him well" sentiment. There's a difference between wishing someone ill will (which is juvenile) and just not caring a lick once that uniform is off. That's where I am.

When you get down to it, sports are pretty much meaningless in the grand scheme of things in terms of having a tangible, measurable impact on people's lives. It's just a pure emotional exercise. That's why I'm always a bit baffled at comments saying "I don't blame the player, go get your bag". If the whole point of this is to serve as an emotional outlet for happiness and pride, why should I drop all that when a player bolts for the portal? You no longer serve the one purpose for people being fans, what happens to you now I do not care one bit and I will not get upset if things go south. Am I an outier with this mentality? Probably. But I see no reason why I should support the player now.

 

[MSOrange]

All I know is that it I had a job offer and accepted it, but then a few months later another job offer came in for more money, I wouldn't feel right ditching my current job. Not after they went through the hiring process and trained me etc.

I work in onboarding and offboarding for my job. I'm not going to say you are in the minority with your thinking, but it's not that uncommon these days from my experience.

 

[DoctahLexus]

That particular poster is very loose with the shoes.

I’d wager they have the highest “stilettos to likes” ratio on the board, by a country mile.


And my next one from them likely inbound in 3, 2, 1….

He is a good guy and a quality poster, but yes, a stealth bomber with the stilettos lol.

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

Your argument is invalid, soccer blows.

Soccer blows. Never loved a post more.

 

[Scooch]

Well, of course not. That would fall on the parents or legal guardians of that "kid."

I take great pains not to call these guys “kids”. It’s a pet peeve of mine. And it kinda subtly removes the agency of the athletes.

I know people use the term loosely, but they’re not kids. They're very much adults. And they’re professional athletes to boot.

 

[orangecuse]

I take great pains not to call these guys “kids”. It’s a pet peeve of mine. And it kinda subtly removes the agency of the athletes.

I know people use the term loosely, but they’re not kids. They're very much adults. And they’re professional athletes to boot.

I couldn't agree more!

 

[OttosShoes]

When you get down to it, sports are pretty much meaningless in the grand scheme of things in terms of having a tangible, measurable impact on people's lives. It's just a pure emotional exercise. That's why I'm always a bit baffled at comments saying "I don't blame the player, go get your bag". If the whole point of this is to serve as an emotional outlet for happiness and pride, why should I drop all that when a player bolts for the portal? You no longer serve the one purpose for people being fans, what happens to you now I do not care one bit and I will not get upset if things go south. Am I an outier with this mentality? Probably. But I see no reason why I should support the player now.

I dunno. It's just one person on a team. If they did something so awful as to cause sanctions and ruin the season, yeah, #@$# 'em.

But this is more like, rude timing on an otherwise understandable move. I'm more mad at the NCAA for not having some sort of contract system/collective bargaining rights in place than I am at Trebor or even the school that poaches him. If NIL is going to be how athletes are compensated it should be handled similar to other pro contracts in sports, where you can't be signed and also be a free agent at the same time.

 

[NKR1978]

We found out what we had in Sean Tucker when we needed it, remember how far down the depth chart he was! My hope is that we have that same “diamond in the rough” somewhere in that WR room that maybe wouldn’t have gotten his chance with Pena here. I have faith that this staff will figure it out or already had plans in place as a worst case scenario.

Wasn't that kind of Trebor last year?

 

[UD1954]

If portaling was about money Pena would of did it before spring ball...whatever he was told during spring ball made him portal...jmo