Two Crowns on One head

[SWC75]

The ACC now owns both major crowns in college sports: Clemson beat Alabama for the football championship and North Carolina beat Gonzaga for the basketball title. People will say that that doesn’t matter- let’s just care about Syracuse. I don’t agree. I think your team’s reputation is tied to that of your conference. Otherwise, why be in a ‘power’ conference? It's about the "brand", right? The ACC needed a boost after their performance in the first week of the tournament and if we are a bubble team again next year it could impact us if the conference totally bombed out this year. Also, you are what you eat and your team is who they played. Everybody is always talking about resumes this time of year and that consisted of who you played as well as how you did against them. When the teams Syracuse played do well, we look better. If we beat them, great. If we lost to them the losses don’t seem too bad. I would have loved to have seen Gonzaga win their first tile last night and I think I would have preferred it to seeing UNC win #6, especially with the dark clouds over their program. But having the ACC get both titles and the fact that SU got to play both championship teams , (and will thus be able to measure themselves against them), is a good consolation prize for us.

I decided to see how many times the same conference has held both title. Here are the recognized national champions in both sports since the 1938-39 school year, the year the NCAA basketball tournament began. The football champions are those chosen by the writer’s poll, which had begun in 1936, the coach’s poll, which began in 1950, the BCS, which began in 1998 or the playoff, which began in 2014. That means there could be more than one “champion”. The basketball champion is the team that won the NCAA tournament, of which there will be one every year. (Aren’t tournaments wonderful?) When the same conference won both in a school year, both are in bold. If the same conference won the basketball title the previous spring and the football title in the fall, those champions are in italics. The first team(s) listed are the football champions, the second the basketball champion for that school year.

1938-39 Texas Christian Oregon
1939-40 Texas A&M Indiana
1940-41 Minnesota Wisconsin
1941-42 Minnesota Stanford
1942-43 Ohio State Wyoming
1943-44 Notre Dame Utah
1944-45 Army Oklahoma A&M (State)
1945-46 Army Oklahoma A&M (State)
1946-47 Notre Dame Holy Cross (a good year for the Catholics)
1947-48 Michigan/Notre Dame Kentucky
1948-49 Michigan Kentucky
1949-50 Notre Dame CCNY
1950-51 Oklahoma Kentucky
1951-52 Tennessee Kansas
1952-53 Michigan State Indiana
1953-54 Maryland LaSalle
1954-55 Ohio State/UCLA San Francisco
1955-56 Oklahoma San Francisco
1956-57 Oklahoma North Carolina
1957-58 Auburn/Ohio State Kentucky
1958-59 Louisiana State California
1959-60 Syracuse Ohio State
1960-61 Minnesota Cincinnati
1961-62 Alabama Cincinnati
1962-63 Southern California Loyola (Chicago)
1963-64 Texas UCLA
1964-65 Alabama UCLA
1965-66 Alabama/Michigan State Texas Western (UTEP)
1966-67 Notre Dame UCLA
1967-68 Southern California UCLA
1968-69 Ohio State UCLA
1969-70 Texas UCLA
1970-71 Nebraska UCLA
1971-72 Nebraska UCLA
1972-73 Southern California UCLA
1973-74 Notre Dame North Carolina State
1974-75 Oklahoma/Southern California UCLA
1975-76 Oklahoma Indiana
1976-77 Pittsburgh Marquette
1977-78 Notre Dame Kentucky
1978-79 Alabama/Southern California Michigan State
1979-80 Alabama Louisville
1980-81 Georgia Indiana
1981-82 Clemson North Carolina
1982-83 Penn State North Carolina State
1983-84 U of Miami Georgetown (Ugh!)
1984-85 Brigham Young Villanova
1985-86 Penn State Louisville
1986-87 Oklahoma Indiana
1987-88 U of Miami Kansas
1988-89 Notre Dame Michigan
1989-90 U of Miami UNLV (Double Ugh!)
1990-91 Colorado/Georgia Tech Duke
1991-92 U of Miami/Washington Duke
1992-93 Alabama North Carolina
1993-94 Florida State Arkansas (FSU joined the ACC in 1991)
1994-95 Nebraska UCLA
1995-96 Nebraska Kentucky
1996-97 Florida Arizona
1997-98 Michigan/Nebraska Kentucky
1998-99 Tennessee Connecticut
1999-2000 Florida State Michigan State
2000-01 Oklahoma Duke
2001-02 U of Miami Maryland (Miami was still in the Big East)
2002-03 Ohio State Syracuse
2003-04 Louisianan State/Southern California Connecticut
2004-05 Southern California North Carolina
2005-06 Texas Florida
2006-07 Florida Florida
2007-08 Louisiana State Kansas
2008-09 Florida North Carolina
2009-10 Alabama Duke
2010-11 Auburn Connecticut
2011-12 Alabama Kentucky
2012-13 Alabama Louisville (They joined the ACC the next season)
2013-14 Florida State Connecticut
2014-15 Ohio State Duke
2015-16 Alabama Villanova
2016-17 Clemson North Carolina

I count 10 times one conference has won both titles in the same school year and 12 times one conference won the basketball title in the spring and the football title in the fall, (let’s call that a calendar year, even though in recent decades the football title was actually won in the next calendar year). Here are the school year and calendar year double titles for the four conferences that have won them:

ACC 3 school year and 1 calendar year
Big 10 2 school year and 3 calendar year
PAC 8/10/12 2 school year and 1 calendar year
SEC 3 school year and 7 calendar year

The following schools have won both titles:

Ohio State football: 1942, 1954, 1957, 1968, 2002, 2014 basketball: 1960
Michigan football: 1947, 1948, 1997 basketball: 1989
Michigan State football: 1952, 1965 basketball: 1979, 2000
Maryland football: 1953 basketball: 2002
UCLA football: 1954 basketball: 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1995
Syracuse football: 1959 basketball: 2003
Florida football 1996, 2006, 2008 basketball 2006, 2007

Florida, of course, is the only school to win both titles in the same school year and also in the same calendar year, having won two basketball titles and a football title from 2006-2007.

 

[Day2]

Nice work. This is my favorite part:

The following schools have won both titles:

Ohio State football: 1942, 1954, 1957, 1968, 2002, 2014 basketball: 1960
Michigan football: 1947, 1948, 1997 basketball: 1989
Michigan State football: 1952, 1965 basketball: 1979, 2000
Maryland football: 1953 basketball: 2002
UCLA football: 1954 basketball: 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1995
Syracuse football: 1959 basketball: 2003
Florida football 1996, 2006, 2008 basketball 2006, 2007

 

[HoustonCuse]

Something not quite right here:

2005-06 Texas Florida
2006-07 Florida Florida
2007-08 Louisiana State Florida

 

[HoustonCuse]

Also, interesting to note that in any year where Syracuse wins one of the championships, Ohio State wins the other one. So we need to start making donations to OSU football.

 

[Day2]

Also, interesting to note that in any year where Syracuse wins one of the championships, Ohio State wins the other one. So we need to start making donations to OSU football.

And we're the only private school with titles in both sports.

 

[Day2]

The 1945 Oklahoma A&M team was retroactively awarded a national title in October 2016 by the American Football Coaches Association. The Aggies finished with a 9-0 record, completing the season with a 33-13 win over St. Mary's College in the Sugar Bowl.

I guess Oklahoma State goes on the list of schools with both football and basketball titles.

 

[UnknownOrange]

This is very long research but I wonder how often the RUNNER UP from the title game the year prior went on to win in BOTH sports. Crazy to me that both Clemson AND UNC got back to the title and won it

 

[Day2]

Also, apparently Arkansas was one of THREE national champions for football in 1964, but they were not the AP or Coaches poll champion.

 

[SWC75]

Nice work. This is my favorite part:

Mine, too.

 

[SWC75]

Something not quite right here:

You're right. Thanks. Corrected, (I think).

 

[SWC75]

Also, interesting to note that in any year where Syracuse wins one of the championships, Ohio State wins the other one. So we need to start making donations to OSU football.

Or they to us. We could use a new Dome.

 

[SWC75]

The 1945 Oklahoma A&M team was retroactively awarded a national title in October 2016 by the American Football Coaches Association. The Aggies finished with a 9-0 record, completing the season with a 33-13 win over St. Mary's College in the Sugar Bowl.

I guess Oklahoma State goes on the list of schools with both football and basketball titles.

Also, apparently Arkansas was one of THREE national champions for football in 1964, but they were not the AP or Coaches poll champion.

"The football champions are those chosen by the writer’s poll, which had begun in 1936, the coach’s poll, which began in 1950, the BCS, which began in 1998 or the playoff, which began in 2014. "

There are many national championship selectors who often choose different teams. I went with the most recognized ones.
The World-Wide Web Virtual Library: American College Football - Rankings

 

[Day2]

You're right. Thanks. Corrected, (I think).

I liked it better without Kansas. #AlternativeStats

 

[Day2]

"The football champions are those chosen by the writer’s poll, which had begun in 1936, the coach’s poll, which began in 1950, the BCS, which began in 1998 or the playoff, which began in 2014. "

There are many national championship selectors who often choose different teams. I went with the most recognized ones.
The World-Wide Web Virtual Library: American College Football - Rankings

Works for me.

 

[SWC75]

This is very long research but I wonder how often the RUNNER UP from the title game the year prior went on to win in BOTH sports. Crazy to me that both Clemson AND UNC got back to the title and won it

Not so hard in football, since we didn't have title games until 1998. Florida state lost that won but won the next year. That's the only other time besides Clemson, (both ACC teams, of course).

In basketball:
North Carolina lost to Indiana in '81 and beat Georgetown in '82.
Duke got blown out by UNLV in '90, came back to beat them in the semis the next year and then beat Kansas for the title.
Kentucky lost to Arizona in '97 and beat Utah in '98. (They'd also beaten us for the crown in '96)


The following teams have lost one year and come back the next year, only to lose again:

Football:
Oklahoma in 2003-04
Ohio State in 2006-07

Basketball:
Ohio State in 1961-62, (but they'd won in 1960)
Houston in 1983-84
Michigan in 1992-93
Butler in 2010-11


Then there are the defending national champions who got to the title game but failed to repeat.

Football:
Florida State in 2000, (they'd also lost in '98)
U of Miami in 2002
Southern California in 2005
Alabama in 2016

Basketball:
Kansas in 1953
LaSalle in 1955
California in 1960
Ohio State in 1961
Cincinnati in 1963
Georgetown in 1985
Arkansas in 1995
Kentucky in 1997

 

[UnknownOrange]

Not so hard in football, since we didn't have title games until 1998. Florida state lost that won but won the next year. That's the only other time besides Clemson, (both ACC teams, of course).

In basketball:
North Carolina lost to Indiana in '81 and beat Georgetown in '82.
Duke got blown out by UNLV in '90, came back to beat them in the semis the next year and then beat Kansas for the title.
Kentucky lost to Arizona in '97 and beat Utah in '98. (They'd also beaten us for the crown in '96)


The following teams have lost one year and come back the next year, only to lose again:

Football:
Oklahoma in 2003-04
Ohio State in 2006-07

Basketball:
Ohio State in 1961-62, (but they'd won in 1960)
Houston in 1983-84
Michigan in 1992-93
Butler in 2010-11


Then there are the defending national champions who got to the title game but failed to repeat.

Football:
Florida State in 2000, (they'd also lost in '98)
U of Miami in 2002
Southern California in 2005
Alabama in 2016

Basketball:
Kansas in 1953
LaSalle in 1955
California in 1960
Ohio State in 1961
Cincinnati in 1963
Georgetown in 1985
Arkansas in 1995
Kentucky in 1997

Awesome!! However I just meant the runner up the year before in BOTH sports winning a title the next year, together. So UNC & Clemson seem to be the first time, right?