Villanova

[NKR1978]

What's going on with them? 6-5 with losses to St. Louis, Santa Clara, Temple and a 74-58 loss to St. Joe's last night?

I haven't seen them this year, but they had some solid guys coming back. Between their end of year collapses the last two seasons and this start, some of the shine is off of Jay Wright.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Actually not surprised at all, they were basically getting little to nothing out of that team except there seniors last year adn still lost 5 out of 6 or something like that down the stretch. To top that off they haven't landed a stud recruit ie a Waiters Rak Melo type in years which is killing them right now and you could see this coming a mile away. The team that is surprising to me is Gtown, much better then I thought.

 

[NKR1978]

Agree, Gtown has been an unpleasant surprise.

They still have Wayns, Cheek and Yarou. That may not be a top 25 nucleus, but should be enough to beat Santa Clara and St. Joe's.

 

[Stern]

When WV, SU and Pitt leave and the "Big East" becomes just another conference on the basketball side and not a dominate power, schools like Nova will fall from grace. Picking up some bottom feeders like UCF, SMU, and Houston...it will drag down the top teams that are left. Going to be tough for Nova and L'ville to recruit top talent when you are telling high schools kids who they are playing and where they are playing. Weak competition, weak schedule. This is the beginning of the downfall for schools like Nova. The fact it is beginning now a little earlier than expected, not good for them.

Jay Wright needs to get his resume ready, he is at a dead end job.

 

[Cuseman78]

I saw a tweet by someone saying that Jay Wright is now 11-17 in his last 28 games. That's astonishing.

 

[SkanSU]

Villanova ... for some reason has fallen on hard times this year. I have watched 2-3 of their games and have been totally unimpressed. The worst fall tho is St. John's ... I feel absolutely terrible for them and their situation.It looked like they were going to be suc a promising team this year ... and then the floor falls out.

 

[NKR1978]

I saw a tweet by someone saying that Jay Wright is now 11-17 in his last 28 games. That's astonishing.

Insane. Imagine this place if we went 11-17 in any stretch?

 

[PoppyHart]

Insane. Imagine this place if we went 11-17 in any stretch?

We are, in football, and some people think we should actually extend HCDM's contract.

 

[SWC75]

Insane. Imagine this place if we went 11-17 in any stretch?

We closed the 2001-2002 year with a 7-11 stretch. It was the end of everything.

 

[OrangeCrush22]

Once Connecticut and Louisville finally get invites to other conferences, then the Big East will just be another mid-major basketball league. The basketball schools will have none of Houston, SMU, UCF, USF and they are all "Temple'd". Then the Big East will look like this...

:rolling:

That'd be a little better than "just another mid-major basketball league", but not much.

 

[SkanSU]

We are, in football, and some people think we should actually extend HCDM's contract.

Syracuse has a football team?

 

[Madbiker]

I've seen Nova a couple times on TV including some of yesterday's embarrassment where they got run out of the gym by a nothing St. Joe's team. Their defense is bad. Surprised a Jay Wright team would be so bad on defense. They got abused inside. Outside of Wayns and Yarou they don't have scoring. Worst shooting Nova team I can remember in the last several years...unless I just caught unusually cold games.

 

[Marsh01]

They stink.

 

[PoppyHart]

I've seen Nova a couple times on TV including some of yesterday's embarrassment where they got run out of the gym by a nothing St. Joe's team. Their defense is bad. Surprised a Jay Wright team would be so bad on defense. They got abused inside. Outside of Wayns and Yarou they don't have scoring. Worst shooting Nova team I can remember in the last several years...unless I just caught unusually cold games.

I thought St. Joe's looked very impressive yesterday.

 

[SkanSU]

I thought St. Joe's looked very impressive yesterday.

St. Joe's is a very good team ... but don't take away from Villanova's loss Villanova's basic ineptitude this year ... and it really is such a pity to see such a perennially good team fall like this.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Villanova ... for some reason has fallen on hard times this year. I have watched 2-3 of their games and have been totally unimpressed. The worst fall tho is St. John's ... I feel absolutely terrible for them and their situation.It looked like they were going to be suc a promising team this year ... and then the floor falls out.

The St John's demise was predicted this year. The lost 96% of their scoring and replaced it all with good, but not great, freshmen recruits. They also lost a few of their incoming freshmen due to qualifying issues, which hurt them even more.

Add to that Lavin's battle with cancer, and you have a recipe for a steep decline.

Nova's fall is a little more surprising. They must have more going on than just not playing well. They have some talent on that team (although not as much as in years past). Has Jay Wright lost control of that team?

I don't think they get it turned around this season. I doubt they finish above .500 this year.

 

[Knicks411]

I saw a tweet by someone saying that Jay Wright is now 11-17 in his last 28 games. That's astonishing.

I seriously can't even fathom that. Mindblowing.

 

[zeekay]

Will be funny if they're still gonna go 60% from three and beat us. Like they do basically every year.

 

[KingOtis]

What's going on with them? 6-5 with losses to St. Louis, Santa Clara, Temple and a 74-58 loss to St. Joe's last night?

St. Louis has a solid team. And a great coach, obviously.

 

[All4SU]

When WV, SU and Pitt leave and the "Big East" becomes just another conference on the basketball side and not a dominate power, schools like Nova will fall from grace. Picking up some bottom feeders like UCF, SMU, and Houston...it will drag down the top teams that are left. Going to be tough for Nova and L'ville to recruit top talent when you are telling high schools kids who they are playing and where they are playing. Weak competition, weak schedule. This is the beginning of the downfall for schools like Nova. The fact it is beginning now a little earlier than expected, not good for them.

Jay Wright needs to get his resume ready, he is at a dead end job.

Disagree. When SU, Pitt and WVU leave, things will get instantly easier for GTown, UConn and Nova. Those teams will have better records, and will benefit from the "perception" of being even better.

 

[Stern]

Disagree. When SU, Pitt and WVU leave, things will get instantly easier for GTown, UConn and Nova. Those teams will have better records, and will benefit from the "perception" of being even better.

Try and recruit top talent in the Northeast when they will be playing "conference" games in Texas and playing the mighty UCF along with DePaul and South Florida. Good luck trying to recruit top talent to play for ya. Ain't gonna happen

 

[IthacaMatt]

What's going on with them? 6-5 with losses to St. Louis, Santa Clara, Temple and a 74-58 loss to St. Joe's last night?

I haven't seen them this year, but they had some solid guys coming back. Between their end of year collapses the last two seasons and this start, some of the shine is off of Jay Wright.

I think they've had some chemistry problems the last couple years, and have melted down badly down the stretch. This seems to be carry over, and young players not knowing how to step up and be leaders when it's their turn.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Disagree. When SU, Pitt and WVU leave, things will get instantly easier for GTown, UConn and Nova. Those teams will have better records, and will benefit from the "perception" of being even better.

Sure, and I'm sure that UMass and Temple are putting together good records every year in their mediocre conferences, too. Georgetown will soon be on par with Xavier, a good regional program, but no longer an elite national program.

And yes, I know that Xavier is ranked this year, and many years recently. But they aren't a real threat for the Final Four, or at least they aren't the vast majority of the time.

 

[Stern]

Sure, and I'm sure that UMass and Temple are putting together good records every year in their mediocre conferences, too. Georgetown will soon be on par with Xavier, a good regional program, but no longer an elite national program.

And yes, I know that Xavier is ranked this year, and many years recently. But they aren't a real threat for the Final Four, or at least they aren't the vast majority of the time.

For schools like G'Town and Nova and even L'ville the party is over. Their programs will never be the same. The decline will start in time. You can't sell top kids on playing in that conference and playing opponents like SMU, South Florida, UCF, DePaul, Houston, Rutgers, Providence, Seton Hall...etc. Few if any top high school kids will go to G'Town, L'Ville, and Nova, It's over for those schools. It won't happen overnight, but its over!

 

[KingOtis]

I think the basketball-only schools will form a new conference, along with some of the teams from the Atlantic-10. In a perfect world, they would get to keep the Big East name, but that probably won't happen.