Punching a guy who is pretty defenseless(inebriated), is by definition a sucker punch. Only way this coach is not guilty of manslaughter is if the drunk guy was physically assaulting him.
The drunk guy or the coach? I haven’t seen thatAm i the only person that read 2 different people punched him within minutes?
I don't think I've ever been punched in my face outside of stupid kid fake boxing in my entire life. at least never that i can remember. Let alone twice in 1 day. Let alone twice because i was bothering people for a commotion that i allegedly started. Maybe he caused people to be mad at him? Did they "need" to punch him? Probably not - but maybe he was acting a fool and bothering people and slamming on cars.
Why not? Szabo lost everything he has over that 1 punch, with no opportunity to get any of it back ever. People make mistakes, but they also have to be prepared to suffer the consequences of their actions.
World would be a much better place if people's first instinct when they get annoyed wasn't to hit, shoot or stab someone.
"A local resident heard the ruckus and came out of his home to confront Szabo, who then punched that person in the face, according to the sources."
Or banging on multiple cars with multiple people punching him.
Defense will argue the 1st guy did significant damage.
The drunk guy or the coach? I haven’t seen that
Only mention I saw was the guy punching someone, but not him getting punched by anyone but the coach. Didn't see it mentioned in other articles. Haven't read where Szabo was punched by anyone else before the coach that CuseFanAtl posted about.
From this article:
Report: Wake Forest assistant charged in deadly New York City attack on a tourist
"Among the cars Szabo allegedly approached was one driven by Jones, which led to their confrontation. The Post reported that Szabo was “apparently drunk” at the time of the incident and had already punched a local resident who had come outside to see who was causing such a ruckus. "
And don't flee the scene afterwards. Doubling down on bad moves.
Its too early to tell that. I feel like plenty of fights lead to someone leaving. Did he know that the guy dying? A punch is not known to be a deadly weapon. Even if he knocked him out cold - I don't want to keep harping on past sins (especially because i love the guy) but i've literally watched current Syracuse coach walk out of chucks after knocking a guy old absolutely cold with a chair.
He knew the guy was messed up enough to be choking on his own blood, such that he elevated his head to prevent further damage.
It seems like a lot of people are eager to believe Jones was simply annoyed that a man touched his car and punched and killed him for it. That's a possible explanation but far far less likely than Jones defending himself/others, imo. Admittedly, none of us are working with all of the facts, which is why I used "if" liberally.
The original version of the story was that Szabo was a little drunk and innocently looking for his Uber, knocked on a car door and got punched for it. Based on updated reports, that's not what happened.
I'm not writing this as a way to argue but I've looked at stories all morning and all of the updated reports I've read are saying exactly what you wrote above. Other than people posting on here, I've yet to read anything written this morning that says Szabo had punched someone before being confronted by the WF coach.
I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm actually more perplexed that we are all looking online at news reports and seeing different stories. I've read nypost, nydailynews, 2 espn articles, a story from a local WF paper, and other random news stories (CNN, Fox, USA today). It's just interesting.
The fact the police upgraded this to a homicide this morning is pretty telling to me. Curious how this plays out because I hate the idea I've probably now read close to 30 articles and might not be seeing some information that is important to form an opinion but other people are seeing articles with information I'm not.
We live in an era where we have multiple sets of facts/truths. Surprised this is surprising.I'm not writing this as a way to argue but I've looked at stories all morning and all of the updated reports I've read are saying exactly what you wrote above. Other than people posting on here, I've yet to read anything written this morning that says Szabo had punched someone before being confronted by the WF coach.
I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm actually more perplexed that we are all looking online at news reports and seeing different stories. I've read nypost, nydailynews, 2 espn articles, a story from a local WF paper, and other random news stories (CNN, Fox, USA today). It's just interesting.
The fact the police upgraded this to a homicide this morning is pretty telling to me. Curious how this plays out because I hate the idea I've probably now read close to 30 articles and might not be seeing some information that is important to form an opinion but other people are seeing articles with information I'm not.
I'm not writing this as a way to argue but I've looked at stories all morning and all of the updated reports I've read are saying exactly what you wrote above. Other than people posting on here, I've yet to read anything written this morning that says Szabo had punched someone before being confronted by the WF coach.
I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm actually more perplexed that we are all looking online at news reports and seeing different stories. I've read nypost, nydailynews, 2 espn articles, a story from a local WF paper, and other random news stories (CNN, Fox, USA today). It's just interesting.
The fact the police upgraded this to a homicide this morning is pretty telling to me. Curious how this plays out because I hate the idea I've probably now read close to 30 articles and might not be seeing some information that is important to form an opinion but other people are seeing articles with information I'm not.