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Big week for Coach Hop. Would be amazing to get this one. A split with the Arizona schools would be great
Washington vs Arizona St
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Dangit my pac12 free preview has expired!
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Thybulle could make layups they would be up 10
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Looks like our guys on the break.
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Yikes. Getting chippy.
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The push was nothing by Carter. Moten knew how to push a guy.
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We got a game here. Let’s go
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How are they looking? No tv for me
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They could start by just calling the foul. Lol
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The Arizona game on Saturday will be fun. I’ve got a busy Saturday.
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Hop has them playing really well.
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We kept the wrong coach.
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Happy for Hop. Syracuse messed up.
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Arizona State is not good. They got some nice early season wins against Xavier and Kansas. That's good. But they're 4-6 in, optimistically, the 4th best conference in college basketball. It wouldn't be crazy for them to not even make the tourney.
Hop is doing great. Crushing expectations, in fact. But to say we have the wrong coach (meaning you're saying Hop is better than JB right now) is categorically stupid.
Did we not run an offense with Flynn at the helm? We didn't run an offense with GMac and Melo? The Andy and Wes team didn't run offense? JB plays a pro style that is reliant on playmakers. We don't have playmakers. It's a personnel/recruiting issue, not a strategy issue. Nobody is calling JB an offensive genius, he obviously hangs his hat on defense, but no offensive-minded coach would make this mashup of players into an even average offensive team. There's no PG and no post scorer. That'd be fine if the team had 3 point shooters, but they don't have those either.
edit: I've decried JB's offensive gameplans this year almost as much as the next guy. The high ball screens are dumb. But Georgia Tech exposed the players on this team for what they are. After the long break between games, the team came out and showed much better off-ball movement and the offense looked like it was finally starting to click. JB has a historically young team on his hands and it looked like he was finally able to get them to run a few extra wrinkles on offense after the added practice time.
That all stopped when GT put ball pressure on our guards and got in the faces of just about everybody. The players couldn't handle it because they don't have the skills/experience to beat ball pressure like that. The only way to beat a team that gets in your face like that, when your guards can't effectively penetrate, is with a playmaker and/or scorer in the post. Not having one of those is this team's biggest weakness. I don't know what a head coach could do on offense to overcome that.
Arizona State is not good. They got some nice early season wins against Xavier and Kansas. That's good. But they're 4-6 in, optimistically, the 4th best conference in college basketball. It wouldn't be crazy for them to not even make the tourney.
Hop is doing great. Crushing expectations, in fact. But to say we have the wrong coach (meaning you're saying Hop is better than JB right now) is categorically stupid.
Did we not run an offense with Flynn at the helm? We didn't run an offense with GMac and Melo? The Andy and Wes team didn't run offense? JB plays a pro style that is reliant on playmakers. We don't have playmakers. It's a personnel/recruiting issue, not a strategy issue. Nobody is calling JB an offensive genius, he obviously hangs his hat on defense, but no offensive-minded coach would make this mashup of players into an even average offensive team. There's no PG and no post scorer. That'd be fine if the team had 3 point shooters, but they don't have those either.
edit: I've decried JB's offensive gameplans this year almost as much as the next guy. The high ball screens are dumb. But Georgia Tech exposed the players on this team for what they are. After the long break between games, the team came out and showed much better off-ball movement and the offense looked like it was finally starting to click. JB has a historically young team on his hands and it looked like he was finally able to get them to run a few extra wrinkles on offense after the added practice time.
That all stopped when GT put ball pressure on our guards and got in the faces of just about everybody. The players couldn't handle it because they don't have the skills/experience to beat ball pressure like that. The only way to beat a team that gets in your face like that, when your guards can't effectively penetrate, is with a playmaker and/or scorer in the post. Not having one of those is this team's biggest weakness. I don't know what a head coach could do on offense to overcome that.
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Happy for Hop too, but man it made me even more upset about the current state of our program.
