We are all dedicated Syracuse fans. Have you ever been called

[baggerbob]

From the outside looking in it seems as if our NIL here at Syracuse has always been reactive. Wait for a money problem to come up and then scramble to try and fix it.

I think that is where HCFB came in and he said screw being reactive I am going to be active. Went out and strengthened relationships within the community, connected with alumni, and created hype around the program that has gone without for decades. As soon as NIL became a thing JB who is great at most of those things should have been in the forefront pushing the bus instead we as a basketball program sort of sat back and waited.

Fran and JW went to California to fund raise, probably other places. JB should be a good fund raiser for BB, he knows everyone.

 

[littlereg]

I think the football alums who lead that one just took the initiative. Nobody on the hoops side has so far.

Sooo….. Syracusefan.com United?????
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[richmondcuse03]

You can raise millions on small donations if you do it right. We have 240,000 living alumni. If 10% of our alums cared about basketball and donated just 10 dollars a month we could raise 3 million a year.

Unfortunately the university is going after those same donors for academic reasons. And they tend to be very competitive. It was only recently that the ADs office got to collaborate better with overall fundraising opps. They’re getting way better but as Dasher originally notes, a lot of people are simply never asked.

I know we’re talking about whales vs ordinary but there are also a lot of other fans in the 1k-5k annual category who can make a difference. The ADs office tends to focus more on the whales and mid sized fish given they don’t have a ton of resources. That’s the focus of the legends society but that’s just 5k/year (minimum 25k commitment over five years). They’re trying to get more in the door first. The collectives are trying to go after businesses and other donors too.

If folks have leads, they should share with the ADs office. They’ll do the legwork but sometimes they need leads. The folks there do a great job building relationships and getting the money in the door but they don’t know everyone.

as others noted, people rarely give unless they’re asked. And the ask should always be higher. Fundraising 101. Hopefully some early success this year fuels more people proactively joining in.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Fran and JW went to California to fund raise, probably other places. JB should be a good fund raiser for BB, he knows everyone.

JB went to California and Hawaii. And does a lot of other events too. He’s been active on this front. They’re using him to get in front of other alums, too.

 

[tbonezone]

If you want to sit closer and your pockets are deeper, consider courtside seating, which has three levels. The first row requires an annual per seat donation of $10,250. The second row is $6,750 per seat, while the remaining seats are $6,200 each. Add to that the season ticket price of $460, which, by the way, has been stable for three seasons.

The Dome also offers 41 suites and 19 are considered in view for basketball. Each suite includes up to 18 seats, with the opportunity to purchase six additional season tickets. There are four price points for suites, which are currently sold on a one-year lease, ranging from $52,530 to $88,150. For the 2017-18 basketball season, there are four suites available.

Finally, there are two other exclusive areas in the Dome that offer fans additional spots to take in the game:

Club 44, located in the west end of the Carrier Dome, is a hospitality area open to any ticket holder who purchases a single game ($25 as available) or annual membership ($380). Members enjoy pre-and post-game access to the lounge, a high-end menu and the opportunity to mingle with SU head coaches.

Executive Club is a 62-person party suite in the 200 level in the southwest corner of the Dome. Each ticket includes food and beverages for every game and a season ticket for football, men's basketball and men's lacrosse. The 2016-17 season price per person was $7,370. Single game tickets are available for select games, including women's basketball.

There have been some recent changes to the premium ticket policy. In previous years, one Orange Club donation allowed fans to buy premium season tickets to football and basketball. Now, separate donations will be required. To build attendance for football, the donation levels for premium areas are being reduced about 60 percent.

let's let those fat cats figure it out. paying out big money to watch what ? pony up pockets.

 

[Sherman20]

You can raise millions on small donations if you do it right. We have 240,000 living alumni. If 10% of our alums cared about basketball and donated just 10 dollars a month we could raise 3 million a year.

Plus all the Central New York locals who consider SU their pro team.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Put me squarely in the camp that I don't want any phone calls about donating to a collective.

 

[two3zone]

Put me squarely in the camp that I don't want any phone calls about donating to a collective.

 

[Bayside44]

I am sure that is true. But it is as I said earlier, the 2 dollar window that keeps the race track flush. And the slot machines at the casino. There is a lot of money being left on the table.

How much scale can they get on that? SUAD never really tried that approach either.

 

[SUfanNC]

It may be a good idea for one of the collectives to get with the SU and every time there is an event at the dome or where they have events that the concessions are open, they can ask if you want to round up for the collective. I get hit at the grocery store all the time. I read they make a ton of money that way. Hell they could partner with wegmans.

 

[Sbucketball]

It may be a good idea for one of the collectives to get with the SU and every time there is an event at the dome or where they have events that the concessions are open, they can ask if you want to round up for the collective. I get hit at the grocery store all the time. I read they make a ton of money that way. Hell they could partner with wegmans.

Great idea. Round up a couple bucks at restaurants, grocery stores, etc.

 

[MadNY3]

by a collective and asked for money? We have a large fan base. I have never been called.
I sent money to football after Fran was hired and have never heard from them. That is
unacceptable. If we want to land guys like Roach, it would be nice to know that our
collective was working their butts off to get us the money we need to compete.

Ok, we get your point. They suck. NOW will you fork over $25/month to the cause? (Ha ha ha)

 

[Orangezoo]

How much scale can they get on that? SUAD never really tried that approach either.

I feel like you need to wrap it around the media somehow. Whether it’s taking something like the NoDestination blog and merging it with others and having an NIL based media platform (not just the event/access stuff like you have on OrangeUnited).

Now that school can be involved directly hopefully then the deep roster from Newhouse can have more impact too. Love to get Kiyan to Cuse and Melo maybe more involved with the school among others.

The struggles at the end of the JB era hurt us unintentionally respective of NIL too by losing some of that momentum- imagine having the same kind of program momentum we did in 2013 going into NIL vs now( not placing blame just timing reference).

 

[Bayside44]

I feel like you need to wrap it around the media somehow. Whether it’s taking something like the NoDestination blog and merging it with others and having an NIL based media platform (not just the event/access stuff like you have on OrangeUnited).

Now that school can be involved directly hopefully then the deep roster from Newhouse can have more impact too. Love to get Kiyan to Cuse and Melo maybe more involved with the school among others.

The struggles at the end of the JB era hurt us unintentionally respective of NIL too by losing some of that momentum- imagine having the same kind of program momentum we did in 2013 going into NIL vs now( not placing blame just timing reference).

Even in 2013 our donor base was top heavy. I used to be really in favor of the small donor thing, just don't think we can pull it off for a variety of reasons. Namely don't think we can pay people enough to get it to scale and have the math work.

My personal opinion is schools will end up paying kids sooner rather than later and these collectives will get rolled up in an AD where more monies can freely mix.

 

[Orangezoo]

Even in 2013 our donor base was top heavy. I used to be really in favor of the small donor thing, just don't think we can pull it off for a variety of reasons. Namely don't think we can pay people enough to get it to scale and have the math work.

My personal opinion is schools will end up paying kids sooner rather than later and these collectives will get rolled up in an AD where more monies can freely mix.

I don’t disagree and posting in multiple threads I see that in terms of using the Dome to drive raising money through events. Having such a unique venue probably needs to be key in driving more funding into NIL somehow.

 

[Bayside44]

I don’t disagree and posting in multiple threads I see that in terms of using the Dome to drive raising money through events. Having such a unique venue probably needs to be key in driving more funding into NIL somehow.

One day there might be an NIL service charge baked in

 

[Niastri]

Hate to say this but initial reaction to fed ex and Virginia general assembly stories today is what's the point and that a few thousand bucks from every day is not going to be meaningful for much longer.

We can put 34,000 in the Dome for a single game... Those tickets cost way more than $10 each.

If just those 34,000 fans all donated $10/month we'd be at $4 million.

Onondaga County has 480,000 citizens. If 10% of them donated $10 per month, we'd be at $5.8 million. Forget about the tens of thousands of fans that show up for random games in far out places.

I personally would subscribe to a $10/month donation to help my basketball team win championships. Nobody ever asked. I have to seek out the collective, but the website is decidedly uninviting.

Lots of small donations add up. They aren't really trying to get us to donate our small amounts of money.

And that is ignoring more creative efforts like the one reported on in this story:

Investigating NIL Collective's Alcohol Loophole

Happy Valley United is the latest collective to utilize a loophole enabling alcohol companies the ability to market themselves through NIL partnerships.

www.si.com

Syracuse University could partner with B&S and probably put out branded specialty 1911 ciders that make millions even on fairly small percentage of sales.

They just don't seem to be trying hard enough

 

[two3zone]

We can put 34,000 in the Dome for a single game... Those tickets cost way more than $10 each.

If just those 34,000 fans all donated $10/month we'd be at $4 million.

Onondaga County has 480,000 citizens. If 10% of them donated $10 per month, we'd be at $5.8 million. Forget about the tens of thousands of fans that show up for random games in far out places.

I personally would subscribe to a $10/month donation to help my basketball team win championships. Nobody ever asked. I have to seek out the collective, but the website is decidedly uninviting.

Lots of small donations add up. They aren't really trying to get us to donate our small amounts of money.

And that is ignoring more creative efforts like the one reported on in this story:

Investigating NIL Collective's Alcohol Loophole

Happy Valley United is the latest collective to utilize a loophole enabling alcohol companies the ability to market themselves through NIL partnerships.

www.si.com

Syracuse University could partner with B&S and probably put out branded specialty 1911 ciders that make millions even on fairly small percentage of sales.

They just don't seem to be trying hard enough

I get it, but I can watch the NBA and not really pay anything. At this point this is a step above AAU ball.

Im not sure if you could get even 1% of the county to pay 1 dollar once. I know I was gone for a long time but fan interest in anything seems not even half of what it was 20-30 years ago.

 

[Niastri]

I get it, but I can watch the NBA and not really pay anything. At this point this is a step above AAU ball.

Im not sure if you could get even 1% of the county to pay 1 dollar once. I know I was gone for a long time but fan interest in anything seems not even half of what it was 20-30 years ago.

Well, you're right... They haven't tried, so no telling what level of success they would have.

My point is that lots of small donations are as valuable as a few big donations.

There are tens of thousands of Syracuse basketball fans that might donate small amounts if invited to do so the right way.

The lack of imagination and entrepreneurship from the current basketball program is similar to the old basketball program.

They need invigoration in their NIL fund raising, like woah!

 

[Scotch]

I get it, but I can watch the NBA and not really pay anything. At this point this is a step above AAU ball.

Im not sure if you could get even 1% of the county to pay 1 dollar once. I know I was gone for a long time but fan interest in anything seems not even half of what it was 20-30 years ago.

You post on this board every day. You care about the program. The program needs small donors. I don’t get this attitude.

 

[two3zone]

You post on this board every day. You care about the program. The program needs small donors. I don’t get this attitude.

I invest enough into this program and have for over 20 years. Whatever this is now isn't the same thing I cared about back then. There is absolutely nothing positive or anything I can root for with year by year free agency. This shouldn't be the more the fanbase donates the better the team. I can travel to a few away games a year for football and basketball, do I give up a trip or two to help the team? I donate to what I think are good causes, not taking out of that. I go punk shows across the north east, not giving up that.

Its a losing investment. My money isnt enough to make a difference and even if it did I'd rather give it somewhere else than watch on instagram Judah driving some super car on Miami Beach.

 

[Arangeman]

You post on this board every day. You care about the program. The program needs small donors. I don’t get this attitude.

Eventually the schools will pay the players. Asking fans to pay what amounts to salaries is preposterous.

 

[PauliePeppas]

Public vs private….we are on the short end of the stick unfortunately

 

[RyanCuse44]

Public vs private….we are on the short end of the stick unfortunately

Yep this is a huge issue.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Eventually the schools will pay the players. Asking fans to pay what amounts to salaries is preposterous.

The money comes from fans, regardless of how it gets to the players.
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