We have the best walkons in the country

[Rossco123]

WOW!! Someone sure p.ssed in the corn flakes.

 

[DNABB5]

The CTO Pavilion

Thanks, I asked if the Joyce was our Joyce in the original thread with that video and never had my suspicion confirmed.

 

[Ghost]

You haven't seen Chicago State play, have you?...

Binghamton and Hartford aren't far ahead.

He may not start, but he could definitely see some time.

We scrimmage a couple D2 schools each year and judging from their skill level Reese might be able to be a back-up on those teams. Not knocking the kid, it is what it is, he's a fine walk-on, but I'm always surprised how many people have comment each year that he could start for a lot of D1 teams year after year.

 

[zibby]

I was at UB when they joined Division I and won about eight games in their first three years, so I have a pretty good idea of what the bottom of Division I looks like. Reese and Matt T would get minutes, none of the others would even be on the team.

 

[Cusedan25]

Nah...Matt T might be able to get some PT at low level D'1's. The Ivy and Patriot type leagues. There might be a few more who could get some PT at DIII schools. I bet many of our Walk's didnt' average double digit points in high school. DIII basketball is no joke, the players are really good. In general, good basketball players want to play in college. They would much rather play on a DIII team than walk on at a DI school. I

 

[TOL22]

In assessing walk ons you have to remember that half the dome is yelling "shoot... shoot!" every time they get the ball, no matter what is happening in play. Their only game is transition. It's kind of fun, but it's more fun watching our bench root for them.

 

[Flacusian]

Didn't Reese play a brief stint in the 6 overtime game vs. UConn? Is that not quality minutes? LOL

 

[Cusefan95]

I was at UB when they joined Division I and won about eight games in their first three years, so I have a pretty good idea of what the bottom of Division I looks like. Reese and Matt T would get minutes, none of the others would even be on the team.

Having watched the 2003-2004 UAlbany Great Danes, and having been to a couple Binghamton games this year, I will tell you with great confidence that there was a couple inches to go before you hit the bottom of the barrel with those Early MAC UB squads. We're talking about America East squads that have walk-ons in their starting line-up. I'm not sure why people are so confident a walk-on from Syracuse couldn't start at the bottom tier teams in crappy leagues like America East, Summit League, SWAC, etc.

 

[jekelish]

Having watched the 2003-2004 UAlbany Great Danes, and having been to a couple Binghamton games this year, I will tell you with great confidence that there was a couple inches to go before you hit the bottom of the barrel with those Early MAC UB squads. We're talking about America East squads that have walk-ons in their starting line-up. I'm not sure why people are so confident a walk-on from Syracuse couldn't start at the bottom tier teams in crappy leagues like America East, Summit League, SWAC, etc.

One of my high school teammates was a three time player of the year in the America East, a kid two years ahead of me was also an America East player of the year and I played against another kid who played sparingly in the America East. I say with complete confidence our walk ons are not in the same league as America East players.

 

[Cusefan95]

One of my high school teammates was a three time player of the year in the America East, a kid two years ahead of me was also an America East player of the year and I played against another kid who played sparingly in the America East. I say with complete confidence our walk ons are not in the same league as America East players.

Your reading comprehension in't very good, chief. I'm not comparing the walk-ons to the America East player of the year. No kidding they have some good players at the top - I think we all remember Vermont beating Syracuse, OK? The comparison is to the bottom teams. The bottom. Not the top teams with the top players. The America East player of the year isn't playing for the team that finishes ninth in America East.

So yes, the walk-ons at Syracuse aren't going to beat out the America East player of the year. But I've watched the 8-9 play-in game at the America East tourney and come away thinking there are high school teams in Class B in NYS that could compete with those teams.

This is really an asinine argument anyway, it reminds me of a debate I got into with my college roommate over who was the hottest fat girl in our class. Does it really matter?

 

[jekelish]

I also mentioned one kid who played sparingly at an America East school, so maybe you should work on your own reading comprehension too. That kid was, if I remember correctly, the state player of the year when I played against him and he barely made an impact in the America East.

That said, this is a ridiculous conversation and I can't believe it's gone on this long.

 

[tbonezone]

G.I. jane.

 

[OttoMets]

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't personally like over half the student-athletes at Syracuse. Including some of my favorite players of all time. What's your point?

Don't air out your dirty laundry because you don't like someone on a forum. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

I don't think it's one person's "dirty laundry."

It's pretty common knowledge that Reese has a poor reputation for his conduct. If it's fair game to talk about Dion's (alleged or perceived) demeanor, there's nothing wrong with mentioning the same thing about Reese.

High-level recruit or otherwise, these guys are public figures. If one of them chooses to act like a punk, there's nothing wrong with noting that on a basketball forum (as long as it's done fairly and rather respectfully).

 

[timkay99]

Didn't Reese play a brief stint in the 6 overtime game vs. UConn? Is that not quality minutes? LOL

Thomas played. Reese did not.

 

[jekelish]

Walkons are like backup quarterbacks. They're always the most popular players on the team and you hope like hell the only time you ever see them is in mop up duty.

 

[Cuseroc]

Couldn't have said it better myself. No need to bash walk-ons, but Reese is one of the more out-of-control players in memory and really struggles when he's in the game. I'm not sure what the infatuation with that guy is; I still remember that nut trying to argue that he should be playing over Scoop last year.

Please tell me that this is only a rumor, lol.

 

[OttoMets]

Please tell me that this is only a rumor, lol.

I've forgotten the poster's name (darn, I knew I should keep lists of these things!) but he was very argumentative, quite serious, and found a couple people to agree with him. I wouldn't be surprised if he got himself banned later in the year.

 

[dollarbill44]

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't personally like over half the student-athletes at Syracuse. Including some of my favorite players of all time. What's your point?

Don't air out your dirty laundry because you don't like someone on a forum. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

There were plenty of non-athletes at SU who were when I attended. Athletes don't have a monopoly on dickhood.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Reese is the most overrated player in Syracuse history. Kid turns it over half the time trying to break pressure the opposing walk-ons put on - but people still think he could play for real. He's pretty fast and that's about it.

Ghost is spot on with this post, I dont get the Reese love at all, the kid is 4'9 and turns it over everytime I see him out there. I cant believe some were actually calling for him to play a couple years ago. He would struggle to start for D3 Utica.

 

[SUFan44]

I don't think it's one person's "dirty laundry."

It's pretty common knowledge that Reese has a poor reputation for his conduct. If it's fair game to talk about Dion's (alleged or perceived) demeanor, there's nothing wrong with mentioning the same thing about Reese.

High-level recruit or otherwise, these guys are public figures. If one of them chooses to act like a punk, there's nothing wrong with noting that on a basketball forum (as long as it's done fairly and rather respectfully).

"Kid's a dick" isn't exactly respectful. Maybe we were brought up differently.

I don't have a problem with saying someone is a problem child, but calling him a "dick" isn't really a mature way of saying he has an attitude issue. That's all I was saying. And the way he threw it in there, it certainly sounded to me like he has had a personal interaction that didn't go so well. Whether it's known around campus that he's a jerk or not.

 

[SUFan44]

There were plenty of non-athletes at SU who were when I attended. Athletes don't have a monopoly on dickhood.

Don't disagree. Was just making a point that I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people that aren't the most savory characters.

 

[OttoMets]

"Kid's a dick" isn't exactly respectful. Maybe we were brought up differently.

I don't have a problem with saying someone is a problem child, but calling him a "dick" isn't really a mature way of saying he has an attitude issue. That's all I was saying. And the way he threw it in there, it certainly sounded to me like he has had a personal interaction that didn't go so well. Whether it's known around campus that he's a jerk or not.

Fair point. Sounds reasonable enough to me.

 

[ImperialOrange]

Matt T transferred here from D2. Reese had offers for low D-1 schools. Nick had offers to play soccer but not basketball. He's on the team to set himself up to be a coach later in life. The others could not play D-1 anywhere.

Oh and if people knew Brandon Reese outside of the team they wouldn't like him. Kid's a dick.

Dammit! Now I have to find a different term for when we empty the bench rather than saying a team got "Reese'd".

OT not sure if any of them would make a D1 teams 10th man or not but in hoops I don't think there as any clear seperation between elite D2 or D 3 vs Low end D1 teams. I'm sure there are a fair amount of D2 teams that could soundly beat a fair amount of D1 teams. When picking between playing for any of those teams, you would probably just pick the school you liked best since they're probably not going to the NBA reagrdless.

So therefore, this arguement from the beginning is flawed.

 

[SUFan44]

Dammit! Now I have to find a different term for when we empty the bench rather than saying a team got "Reese'd".

OT not sure if any of them would make a D1 teams 10th man or not but in hoops I don't think there as any clear seperation between elite D2 or D 3 vs Low end D1 teams. I'm sure there are a fair amount of D2 teams that could soundly beat a fair amount of D1 teams. When picking between playing for any of those teams, you would probably just pick the school you liked best since they're probably not going to the NBA reagrdless.

So therefore, this arguement from the beginning is flawed.

My former roommate has coached at the low D1 and high D2 levels, and his team won 27 games last year. He has told me on numerous occasions that high-level D2 teams are just as good as a number of D1 schools in the NEC, America East, MAAC, etc.

 

[PoppyHart]

Dammit! Now I have to find a different term for when we empty the bench rather than saying a team got "Reese'd".

OT not sure if any of them would make a D1 teams 10th man or not but in hoops I don't think there as any clear seperation between elite D2 or D 3 vs Low end D1 teams. I'm sure there are a fair amount of D2 teams that could soundly beat a fair amount of D1 teams. When picking between playing for any of those teams, you would probably just pick the school you liked best since they're probably not going to the NBA reagrdless.

So therefore, this arguement from the beginning is flawed.

You can still get a scholarship at D-2, though. D3 have better academics, by and large, however. So a person has to weigh going to, say , Williams and getting a great, though expensive, education vs. getting a free ride at Division 2 Southern Indiana.