WEEI in Boston is crushing Boeheim right now

[IthacaMatt]

JB will be fired or resign in the next 10 days, this ain't going away and will not get better anytime soon. Just my opinion, not saying I agree with it but the media shitstorm will just be too much

You can always depend on Mr. Sunshine to tell us how great things are going with SU sports programs.

 

[SUGIANT]

In two to three weeks this will go away. Will be a rough couple ofweeks. Relax.

i don;t believe that we are near the end of the revelatiosn aboutthis or that this goes away in 2-3 weeks. I don;t know if JB will be fired or not, but I think it is a distinct possibility.

BTW, I think this is exactly the reason Mike hopkins was named the next Head Coach, they wanted to remove Fine from consideration because they knew about these allegations in 2005 or earlier (I don;t remeber exactly when they named Hopkins)

 

[DoctorBombay]

If he survives this week, and barring no more damaging revelations, JB "should" be OK.
The general gist from the media so far is that he was showing loyalty to a friend of 50 years-
hard to crucify him for that.
He wasn't delicate in how he did it, but for now at least, he's getting a pass.

 

[dash-30-dash]

callahan and dennis have been suspended for saying things in the past. I guess they think they should have been fired as well.

 

[orangecuse]

It will simmer down in the weeks ahead as long as SU & JB stay clean. Just like the travesty of Hurricane Katrina and the tsuami in Japan have far left the media's focus & attention, so will this. Because of Penn State, this is getting way more attention than necessary, it -for a lack of better word- is a very sexy/attention getting story today...tomorrow, something else takes its place.

The administration just needs to stay level headed (which they appear to be doing) and not let the media fray/frenzie influence their decision...keep the emotion out of it! They know, SU, is in no way, shape or form synonymous with Penn St. If they caved to public pressure, imo, they would be implying, yes John Q public, we/SU are indeed PSU...however, unlike our black sheep public entity brother, we, as a small private sibling, never recover...

 

[javadoc]

it's not her, it's the people who donate to the schools and BOT. The Marty Whitman types. If the money flow dries up b/c someone isn't happy with Boeheim's actions, he's gone. I think it's that simple at this point. I'm sure CTO can explain it much better but i'm sure within the BOT there is opposition already regarding Boeheim's future.

Ah, but they had better have a good idea of how the average fan will react to such a firing, when it is not justified.

 

[pfister1]

i don;t believe that we are near the end of the revelatiosn aboutthis or that this goes away in 2-3 weeks. I don;t know if JB will be fired or not, but I think it is a distinct possibility.

BTW, I think this is exactly the reason Mike hopkins was named the next Head Coach, they wanted to remove Fine from consideration because they knew about these allegations in 2005 or earlier (I don;t remeber exactly when they named Hopkins)

I think Bernie removed himself from consideration to be named Head Coach a long time ago, and it had nothing to do with child molestation allegations...... he absolutely could not be the face of a Major Division I program. Are you kidding me?

 

[44cuse]

This has to be taking place across the country. You guys are underestimating the lynch mob mentality right now post Penn St. I would be shocked if Boeheim survives this especially since the story is turning towards him and his snarky comments towards victims.

I hope he survives and the University doesn't capitulate to public opinion but it's going to be hard if donors, trustees see it another way.

More uninformed bullshi%t. JB is not...and should not...be going anywhere until it is proven that he knew or that the University knew and was complicit in covering it up. I'm sick and tired of reading this crap.

AND...this is not going on everywhere in the national media. Cowherd this AM didn't say he should go nor are any of the local guys I listen. It's barely even on the radar in some places outside of NE from those I have checked with (in terms of everyday talk). CNN, ESPN, CBSSports...yes. But local...nothing more than basic updates and not even the lead story.

44cuse

 

[44cuse]

I got a feeling it will happen today or tomorrow. Don't think JB coaches another game.

Turn on any radio or TV station right now. It's really really REALLY bad!

I've been listening to sports radio for 2 hours+ a day (national and local) and it's barely even mentioned. Another instance of people needing to get of their NE centric mentalities.

44cuse

 

[kingtidge]

I've been listening to sports radio for 2 hours+ a day (national and local) and it's barely even mentioned. Another instance of people needing to get of their NE centric mentalities.

44cuse

It was a lead story on CNN this morning. It's the feature story on ESPN.com CBB page. It's national, don't kid urself.

 

[mountaincuse]

BTW, I think this is exactly the reason Mike hopkins was named the next Head Coach, they wanted to remove Fine from consideration because they knew about these allegations in 2005 or earlier (I don;t remeber exactly when they named Hopkins)

Interesting thought, but I would bet they named Hop the next coach over Fine because he is a much better recruiter and coach and they didn't want to lose him.

 

[44cuse]

It was a lead story on CNN this morning.

Read my post above where I mentioned CNN. In the post you responded to I was referring to Sports Radio (national and local). Two different posts.

44cuse

 

[Victory Lap]

I got a feeling it will happen today or tomorrow. Don't think JB coaches another game.

Turn on any radio or TV station right now. It's really really REALLY bad!

Chill homies, chill.

 

[OrangeFreek]

Ya! I am a JB fan. Not BOT fan. Fire them all as far as i care.

You do understand that the BOT. Is in charge of all that go on right. Without the BOT there is no SU.. And that means no JB...

 

[armory]

When people start getting fired from their job of 35+ years for hurting someone's feelings, I give up. I no longer want to live on this planet.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Read my post above where I mentioned CNN. In the post you responded to I was referring to Sports Radio (national and local). Two different posts.

44cuse

Francesa spent at least 2hrs on it yesterday. and he is local both local and national on YES.

and i should note his local is a really big local. wfans signal is ridiculous. i get the FAN north of Lake George and about to baltimore.

 

[SUGIANT]

I think Bernie removed himself from consideration to be named Head Coach a long time ago, and it had nothing to do with child molestation allegations...... he absolutely could not be the face of a Major Division I program. Are you kidding me?

No I'm not kidding and i'd bet money on it.

 

[orangecuse]

When people start getting fired from their job of 35+ years for hurting someone's feelings, I give up. I no longer want to live on this planet.

Agree...unfortunately, it already is this planet...

 

[SUGIANT]

I've been listening to sports radio for 2 hours+ a day (national and local) and it's barely even mentioned. Another instance of people needing to get of their NE centric mentalities.

44cuse

It's been one of the lead stopries in Denver since it happened, I know because withe ach revelation my 15 year old sons hears he makes soem type of exclamation about it. It is also one of the lead stories on GMA which I wake up to every monring, everyday since it broke. And these people put no context to it at all. I also hear about it on NPR every moring on my way to work.

I think you need to listen to more than just Sports Radio...

 

[suthrills]

Francesa spent at least 2hrs on it yesterday. and he is local both local and national on YES.

and i should note his local is a really big local. wfans signal is ridiculous. i get the FAN north of Lake George and about to baltimore.

And Francesa was not calling for JB's head. Seth Davis came out in support of keeping JB as well so not everyone is calling for his head.
If he didn't know anything about it then he should be safe and it will eventually blow over.

 

[orange03]

This has to be taking place across the country. You guys are underestimating the lynch mob mentality right now post Penn St. I would be shocked if Boeheim survives this especially since the story is turning towards him and his snarky comments towards victims.

I hope he survives and the University doesn't capitulate to public opinion but it's going to be hard if donors, trustees see it another way.

Just stop listening to the radio.

 

[elimunelson]

More uninformed bullshi%t. JB is not...and should not...be going anywhere until it is proven that he knew or that the University knew and was complicit in covering it up. I'm sick and tired of reading this crap.

AND...this is not going on everywhere in the national media. Cowherd this AM didn't say he should go nor are any of the local guys I listen. It's barely even on the radar in some places outside of NE from those I have checked with (in terms of everyday talk). CNN, ESPN, CBSSports...yes. But local...nothing more than basic updates and not even the lead story.

44cuse

Again, as Scooch mentioned in another thread, I give two craps about this basketball program if it impacts the diploma that i received from Syracuse. That's the most important thing in my mind. The integrity of the university i went to and how the people respond to this mess. I hope the hoops program survives and flourishes but i won't lose sleep if boeheim loses his job if the university thinks it's in the best interest to relieve him. I hope it doesn't come to this but the court of public opinion will prob play a role in how the university handles this and how it handles the big donors and influential alum.

Again, townies and fans of the program will look at it differently and i totally understand. I was a BC fan for most of my life and never went there so i get it.

 

[SUGIANT]

When people start getting fired from their job of 35+ years for hurting someone's feelings, I give up. I no longer want to live on this planet.

I don't know what to tell you if you can't understand the negative affect of a prominent head coach calling victims of abuse, liars, before all the facts are out there, means. He didn't just hurt feelings he potentially quieted victims of abuse that are already leery of highlighting what happened to them because of the responses like he gave. I don't think he deserves to be fired, but his very public and agressive tone was at the very least inapproriate. I think he was trying to stand up for someone he trusted for 35 years and I think he'll get burnt for it, but I also think with all the examples of comments like these causing issues he should have learned from those examples.

From an abuse victims perspective what he said does more than just hurt feelings and that is really the only perspective people should be looking at this now.

 

[dash-30-dash]

this will soon pass on the national scene. The worst as far as that goes is over. Maybe not the worst for the story, however. A wife of an abuser admitting that she had sex with the abused is kinda going to make news. If it comes out there are more accusers or child porn, while a big story here, it won't be as big as that tape. the tape was somethin g everyone could hear and understand. It had it all. sex, abuse. enough to turn everyone's tummy. The rest will be another piece of the crime.

 

[dash-30-dash]

No Giant, that is not the only thing people should be looking at now. Not when you are talking about someone's life. Context is very important. If jb had said the same thing about some kid out of nowhere saying that Bernie abused him, I would agree 100% with you. However, there were 3 investigations prior to this. The P.S., ESPN, and Syracuse University. Jb had every reason to believe what he said. He should not have said it. We all agree on that. But to lose his job for it would be overkill in my mind. He is in a position to do real positive works for abuse victims. I think he needs to do just that. I know that most here calling for his head have never said anything they really regret.