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Westhill HS Hazing

This ABC News article about an interview with a former teammate of the kids accused is from Thursday but I don't see it posted here.

that guy should've just kept walking, he's not helping. they're not good kids. they are now kids that have to prove themselves to be good young men and adults and we'll see how it goes.

anybody that's gotten details of some of this probably has no sympathy. these kids are better off getting some life lessons now, and are really lucky re: criminal record.

dunham cancelling the season certainly could've been handled differently, but... politics, fo sho.
 
Some major points:

[Judge] Mullin said in court that he closed the court so that the four older players who must appear in town court will be treated the same as the seven younger players who have also been charged in the abduction and hazing but do not appear in town court.

The seven younger players’ cases will be handled by the probation department and family court.

At about 6:15 p.m., the players left the town court building by the back door. One player put a coat over his head; another ran to a waiting car, covering his face with a paper.

The sheriff’s office, the DA’s office and the court have declined to identify any of the players.

The lawyer said the goal is rehabilitation and not public shaming.

It is unlikely any players’ names will be made public by the courts or police.

For the four older players, state law requires first-time offenders charged with a misdemeanor to receive mandatory youthful offender status, which will seal the record of the crime from the public, Chief Assistant District Attorney Joseph Coolican said.

Youths are prosecuted by the county attorney’s office, which is under the county executive’s office. They would not be prosecuted by the DA’s office.

The younger players will report to the county probation department, which will assess the case and begin supervision, Durr said.

Westhill players were also involved in a failed abduction attempt the day prior to the abduction, Fitzpatrick has said.

On April 23, the targets of the hazing recognized the older students and knew it was a “sick joke.” No abduction actually occurred, he said. Fitzpatrick said no victim is seeking additional charges for the failed abduction.

The students have been disciplined by the school but Westhill School Superintendent Stephen Dunham has said he will not release the details of their punishments.
 
This ABC News article about an interview with a former teammate of the kids accused is from Thursday but I don't see it posted here.

“Bruh. Those guys all are mad nonchalant. You don’t even know bruh.” - probably Gage Talucci
 
There is so much inaccuracy and speculation around this situation that it’s beginning to distort the actual facts. It’s time to move on and forward.
 
There is so much inaccuracy and speculation around this situation that it’s beginning to distort the actual facts. It’s time to move on and forward.
Shut the school down! Lack of institutional control!

I have no idea what’s going on. All I’ve heard is that some of the people are real pieces of work.
 
Shut the school down! Lack of institutional control!

I have no idea what’s going on. All I’ve heard is that some of the people are real pieces of work.
LOL.
I wouldn’t say that they’re “bad” kids but no one is going to mistake them for Mensa members and they certainly really screwed up beyond belief. They certainly deserve consequences for their stupidity, and they are certainly receiving those even-though they may not be pubic knowledge.
 
LOL.
I wouldn’t say that they’re “bad” kids but no one is going to mistake them for Mensa members and they certainly really screwed up beyond belief. They certainly deserve consequences for their stupidity, and they are certainly receiving those even-though they may not be pubic knowledge.
I wasn’t talking about the kids….
 
There is so much inaccuracy and speculation around this situation that it’s beginning to distort the actual facts. It’s time to move on and forward.
what do you mean move on and forward? to where?
 
I wasn’t talking about the kids….
I wouldn’t agree with this either. There is one parent that some don’t care for but I have no reason to share that opinion. They’re parents just like you would find in any other school community. Some you would like others not so much but none of them are bad people.
 
I wouldn’t agree with this either. There is one parent that some don’t care for but I have no reason to share that opinion. They’re parents just like you would find in any other school community. Some you would like others not so much but none of them are bad people.
But aren’t they using their $$ and influence to smooth things over for their kids? I think that’s where some are a bit upset by the whole thing. Stupid rich kids doing stupid rich kid things, with seemingly no accountability. I know nothing about the people involved, but that seems to be the crap online.
 
I don’t think the DA is the biggest concern. I expect civil suits that could leave some Dazed & Confused.
thought the same.
is there anything less that could be charged/released?
seems like they all got the red carpet here. investigation not 1 guy is culpable for anything more than this outcome?

everybody's choice on pursuing civilly, but lf they do I hope they bring it all the way to court.
 
But aren’t they using their $$ and influence to smooth things over for their kids? I think that’s where some are a bit upset by the whole thing. Stupid rich kids doing stupid rich kid things, with seemingly no accountability. I know nothing about the people involved, but that seems to be the crap online.
I must say that being from a neighboring school that most of the players are not “rich kids”. This isn’t a prep school scandal.
 
I must say that being from a neighboring school that most of the players are not “rich kids”. This isn’t a prep school scandal.

I asked a couple lawyer friends for their thoughts based on media reports - taking into account we live 250ish miles away so may not have all the details, they both said this is playing out the way they would have expected (and would have regardless of the sport or families of the kids involved).

People getting upset about this may be unrealistic.
 
I must say that being from a neighboring school that most of the players are not “rich kids”. This isn’t a prep school scandal.
Like I said, I don’t know any of the people involved, just the Facebook crap my wife sees online. And we know how biased that is. Social media is a cesspool. Kinda like the Syracuse.com message boards. LOL

Everyone is a private eye, or thinks they are.
 
As I mentioned above, I want to see how the facts play out before making any definitive conclusions.

If a kid shop lifts, or gets caught smoking pot, or graffiti or something else young and immature, I'm all about keeping them out of the criminal justice system and using softer methods to get them back on track. That doesn't appear to be the situation here at all.

If the basic facts of the situation are correct, that they threatened a freshman (this is a boy 4 years out of elementary school) with a weapon, took him against his will, zip-tied him and put a pillow case over his head, put him in the trunk of a car, and then drove him to a remote area and left him there... if that isnt a felony, I honestly don't know what it is.
But but they have done this prank on sitcoms so it’s ok. (What ?? Crazy pills ?)
 
I don’t think the DA is the biggest concern. I expect civil suits that could leave some Dazed & Confused.

I doubt it… imagine how embarrassing it’d be to be 16 and suing your former teammate for a sick prank… maybe it’s deserved but don’t see that and also not sure what you’d be recovering… maybe home owners liability proceeds - not even sure that policy would cover it.

Everyone needs to move on if the victims of the attack are ready to move on.
 
I asked a couple lawyer friends for their thoughts based on media reports - taking into account we live 250ish miles away so may not have all the details, they both said this is playing out the way they would have expected (and would have regardless of the sport or families of the kids involved).

People getting upset about this may be unrealistic.
The biggest question for me (which we'll probably never know the answer) is how does the victim feel about the consequences of this crime for the perpetrators?

If his stance is "These are my friends. They did something incredibly stupid and irresponsible, but I want to move on and continue to be friends and teammates with them" then the punishment probably fits the crime.

But if his stance is "I will have PTSD from this for a long time. I never want to associate with these guys again. and I will probably need counseling" then misdemeanor charges for the main orchestrators probably seem like a joke.
 
I doubt it… imagine how embarrassing it’d be to be 16 and suing your former teammate for a sick prank… maybe it’s deserved but don’t see that and also not sure what you’d be recovering… maybe home owners liability proceeds - not even sure that policy would cover it.

Everyone needs to move on if the victims of the attack are ready to move on.

The biggest question for me (which we'll probably never know the answer) is how does the victim feel about the consequences of this crime for the perpetrators?

If his stance is "These are my friends. They did something incredibly stupid and irresponsible, but I want to move on and continue to be friends and teammates with them" then the punishment probably fits the crime.

But if his stance is "I will have PTSD from this for a long time. I never want to associate with these guys again. and I will probably need counseling" then misdemeanor charges for the main orchestrators probably seem like a joke.
I'm guessing this will be more of the parents' decision than the kid himself.
 
I doubt it… imagine how embarrassing it’d be to be 16 and suing your former teammate for a sick prank… maybe it’s deserved but don’t see that and also not sure what you’d be recovering… maybe home owners liability proceeds - not even sure that policy would cover it.

Everyone needs to move on if the victims of the attack are ready to move on.
The 14 year old victim is not making that call.
 
But aren’t they using their $$ and influence to smooth things over for their kids? I think that’s where some are a bit upset by the whole thing. Stupid rich kids doing stupid rich kid things, with seemingly no accountability. I know nothing about the people involved, but that seems to be the crap online.
Yeah, Westhill is known as the Beverly Hills of Onondaga County.

Not
 

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