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What is the Point

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I am not interested in Syracuse fielding a paid team. Why would these employees need to even go to class? They are not students. No other employees go to class. Why would an educational institution be in the business of minor league professional sports? If the pros want farm teams they should own them.
 
I am not interested in Syracuse fielding a paid team. Why would these employees need to even go to class? They are not students. No other employees go to class. Why would an educational institution be in the business of minor league professional sports? If the pros want farm teams they should own them.
At any one time there may be 15 players on a 105 player roster that will play a significant amount at the next level. That’s where providing educational opportunities comes in.
 
I am not interested in Syracuse fielding a paid team. Why would these employees need to even go to class? They are not students. No other employees go to class. Why would an educational institution be in the business of minor league professional sports? If the pros want farm teams they should own them.
Why are you throwing shade at the pro teams? It was players that brought up this lawsuit.
 
I am not interested in Syracuse fielding a paid team. Why would these employees need to even go to class? They are not students. No other employees go to class. Why would an educational institution be in the business of minor league professional sports? If the pros want farm teams they should own them.
The players have always been paid. Scholarship, food, apartments, under the table money, cars, etc…i would rather have it in the open and regulated.
 
Well they made very clear they are not employees, so students have to go to class.
 
I am not interested in Syracuse fielding a paid team. Why would these employees need to even go to class? They are not students. No other employees go to class. Why would an educational institution be in the business of minor league professional sports? If the pros want farm teams they should own them.
So, the big institutions and their coaches keep all the money, but labor gets squat. Sort of a plantation mentality, don’t you think?
 
What I’m about to suggest will make some posters pass out, but I would be OK with going to class being officially optional for scholarship athletes.

Meaning, if you want to play a sport while simultaneously getting an education for free, then great it’s there for you. But if you’re someone like Melo or a highly paid NIL player who knows ahead of time he is just passing through for a year on the way to the pros, they can “opt out” of educational requirements and simply be an athlete that represents the university.
 
What I’m about to suggest will make some posters pass out, but I would be OK with going to class being officially optional for scholarship athletes.

Meaning, if you want to play a sport while simultaneously getting an education for free, then great it’s there for you. But if you’re someone like Melo or a highly paid NIL player who knows ahead of time he is just passing through for a year on the way to the pros, they can “opt out” of educational requirements and simply be an athlete that represents the university.
Then don’t give them a scholarship at all. Give it to someone who needs and wants it.
 
Then don’t give them a scholarship at all. Give it to someone who needs and wants it.
I know for a fact that Melo barely went to class (that shouldn't be surprising to anyone). A close friend of mine had a 100 level Comms class with him. Melo came in on syllabus day with a hoodie pulled over his head, didn't say a word, and didn't attend again for the rest of the semester.

And honestly, who cares? His positive contributions to Syracuse University are incalculable. Would you have rather that scholarship went to someone else?

I guess what I'm saying is, I think the one silver lining in this recent college sports evolution is we don't have to pretend anymore that elite college sports is something that it isn't.
 
I know for a fact that Melo barely went to class (that shouldn't be surprising to anyone). A close friend of mine had a 100 level Comms class with him. Melo came in on syllabus day with a hoodie pulled over his head, didn't say a word, and didn't attend again for the rest of the semester.

And honestly, who cares? His positive contributions to Syracuse University are incalculable. Would you have rather that scholarship went to someone else?

I guess what I'm saying is, I think the one silver lining in this recent college sports evolution is we don't have to pretend anymore that elite college sports is something that it isn't.

Fall or Spring? By January forget it, the guy was bigger than Elvis.
 
I know for a fact that Melo barely went to class (that shouldn't be surprising to anyone). A close friend of mine had a 100 level Comms class with him. Melo came in on syllabus day with a hoodie pulled over his head, didn't say a word, and didn't attend again for the rest of the semester.

And honestly, who cares? His positive contributions to Syracuse University are incalculable. Would you have rather that scholarship went to someone else?

I guess what I'm saying is, I think the one silver lining in this recent college sports evolution is we don't have to pretend anymore that elite college sports is something that it isn't.
GMac never did either. He showed up twice for a US history class I was in with him where David Bennett was the professor.
 
Of course..the government always gets their cut.
Unless exempted by law they are employees. Therefore, the teams are professional. Once big revenue was involved this result is inevitable. Why should academic institutions own professional teams?
 
Why should academic institutions own professional teams?
There is absolutely no rational reason why they should. Honestly, it doesn't make sense at all.

But, there's no going back now. It's so heavily woven into the cultural identity of huge portions of the country.
 
Sure, everybody would prefer that. But the NCAA is proven over a multi-decade span that they are congenitally incapable of even regulating potted plants.

So...
Understand so is the answers just give up trying. Would like to see a rule that transfers have to sit 1 year and 5 to play 5. While not directly related to payments may create better controls. Understand the ship has sailed for now. People like Pitino, Sampson. Pearl will always find a way regardless of rules.
 
Unless exempted by law they are employees. Therefore, the teams are professional. Once big revenue was involved this result is inevitable. Why should academic institutions own professional teams?
They don't have to be considered employees for it to be taxable. It could be considered nonemplyee compensation.
 
Unless exempted by law they are employees. Therefore, the teams are professional. Once big revenue was involved this result is inevitable. Why should academic institutions own professional teams?
Eventually the teams probably will be "owned" by private parties and the school will license the team to use their name. And eventually the school names will be dropped also. It will formally be the NFL Minor leagues.
 

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