What should Hunt's punishment be?

[CuseOnly]

I couldn't find the ACC by-laws on this. I think they can exceed the NCAA though

I would assume they can as the NCAA Rule is above and only calls for the in game or 1st half next game suspension. If not, what would the point of their review be?

 

[storange]

He should have to sit out most of the Villanova game......if it happens again then we can debate additional punishments.

 

[nzm136]

We aren't USC, and we aren't Miami. We're Syracuse, and I like it that way. He should get more than the absolute minimum punishment required by the NCAA/ACC. In my opinion, he should get some community service hours (that must be filled by the end of the school year - May) and more stadiums/sprints than he can count this week (we have a bye so it won't make him tired for any games). If the ACC forces us to sit him out any length, then we can call it a day. Otherwise, he should miss the first series of our directional Michigan game.

I think that fits the crime, and it isn't overly burdensome, but it will instill a sense of discipline and keep him from acting stupid in the future. It also won't tangibly affect our on the field product.

EDIT:
If this hasn't already happened, he should be forced to write a hand-written apology to the guy that he punched. Sure the guy gave him a little bit of a cheap short to elicit the punch, but we're the bigger men and should be held o a higher standard.

 

[Pat Kelly]

We aren't USC, and we aren't Miami. We're Syracuse, and I like it that way. He should get more than the absolute minimum punishment required by the NCAA/ACC. In my opinion, he should get some community service hours (that must be filled by the end of the school year - May) and more stadiums/sprints than he can count this week (we have a bye so it won't make him tired for any games). If the ACC forces us to sit him out any length, then we can call it a day. Otherwise, he should miss the first series of our directional Michigan game.

I think that fits the crime, and it isn't overly burdensome, but it will instill a sense of discipline and keep him from acting stupid in the future. It also won't tangibly affect our on the field product.

No... he barely did anything wrong, just being competitive.

 

[nzm136]

No... he barely did anything wrong, just being competitive.

He punched a guy. That isn't being "competitive." That's being a childish jerk. And battery isn't "barely anything."

 

[Pat Kelly]

He punched a guy. That isn't being "competitive." That's being a childish jerk. And battery isn't "barely anything."

Battery? Really? Have you ever played a sport in your life? Three years ago that would've just been a 15-yard penalty and that's it. The punishment was more than enough.

 

[CuseOnly]

We aren't USC, and we aren't Miami. We're Syracuse, and I like it that way. He should get more than the absolute minimum punishment required by the NCAA/ACC. In my opinion, he should get some community service hours (that must be filled by the end of the school year - May) and more stadiums/sprints than he can count this week (we have a bye so it won't make him tired for any games). If the ACC forces us to sit him out any length, then we can call it a day. Otherwise, he should miss the first series of our directional Michigan game.

I think that fits the crime, and it isn't overly burdensome, but it will instill a sense of discipline and keep him from acting stupid in the future. It also won't tangibly affect our on the field product.

EDIT:
If this hasn't already happened, he should be forced to write a hand-written apology to the guy that he punched. Sure the guy gave him a little bit of a cheap short to elicit the punch, but we're the bigger men and should be held o a higher standard.

Community hours for something that happened on an athletic field? Are you serious? These kids already do enough community work, what purpose would that serve?

You are right we are not one of the other 126 FBS schools but the NCAA rules govern everybody the same and we are no different. Just like laws in society.

 

[CuseOnly]

Battery? Really? Have you ever played a sport in your life? Three years ago that would've just been a 15-yard penalty and that's it. The punishment was more than enough.

He punched a guy. That isn't being "competitive." That's being a childish jerk. And battery isn't "barely anything."

Technically there is battery every play if you wanna get technical. Every time someone touches someone else is technically battery. It was battery for the late-ish hit that prompted the punch, why not arrest them both?

Get a grip on yourself

 

[Pat Kelly]

Technically there is battery every play if you wanna get technical. Every time someone touches someone else is technically battery. It was battery for the late-ish hit that prompted the punch, why not arrest them both?

Get a grip on yourself

Hockey you punch a guy, and you're out five minutes. And it's not like he even hurt the guy. Everyone's acting like he murdered someone and the sky is falling one game into the season. Get a grip everyone...

 

[Jake]

It's was an illegal play...there is a set punishment for it. He served it. Move on. It's not like he threw a haymaker on a kid that wasn't looking. I've seen players take cheap shots away from the ball with the intent to injure...those are 1000x worse.

 

[CuseOnly]

Hockey you punch a guy, and you're out five minutes. And it's not like he even hurt the guy. Everyone's acting like he murdered someone and the sky is falling one game into the season. Get a grip everyone...

Can't stand the "we are better than everyone" holier than thou attitude of some folks on here.

Edit: Not you Pat, you just had the last post at the time. Just sayin.

 

[GoSU96]

He was punished, he got tossed.

Have him do 10 up/downs , extra laps.

It's funny that SS saw the same thing that I did, he's wrapped up on the ground in a sitting position Nova player leaves his feet from behind and lights him up in the upperback, neck, and are helmet to helmet on the side. He could have been really hurt. Very dangerous play by the Villanova defender.

 

[CousCuse]

Technically there is battery every play if you wanna get technical. Every time someone touches someone else is technically battery. It was battery for the late-ish hit that prompted the punch, why not arrest them both?

Get a grip on yourself

Going back to your post about The Orange being more like a knight than king and following your excellent logic , I suggest your user name be Sir Cuse Only. But yes charge everyone in contact sports (Have you ever watched girls basketball?) , with battery, if their is malice aforethought , charge them with reckless endangerment.

 

[CuseOnly]

Going back to your post about The Orange being more like a knight than king and following your excellent logic , I suggest your user name be Sir Cuse Only. But yes charge everyone in contact sports (Have you ever watched girls basketball?) , with battery, if their is malice aforethought , charge them with reckless endangerment.

Not sure if you noticed but that was sarcasm poking fun at an earlier post. I thought I was laying it on pretty thick and you still didn't get it after I said "get a grip". Remarkable.

Edit: And if you did get it and your post is also being sarcastic and I didn't get it. Jokes on me, touche.

 

[CousCuse]

Not sure if you noticed but that was sarcasm poking fun at an earlier post. I thought I was laying it on pretty thick and you still didn't get it after I said "get a grip". Remarkable.

Edit: And if you did get it and your post is also being sarcastic and I didn't get it. Jokes on me, touche.

Yes, I did get it. The SirCuseOnly (Syracuse Only) was a bit of a hoot , but I did like the King, Baron, Knight thinking,

 

[tbonezone]

" ...or gouge an opponent."

NCAA does needs some kind of hannibal lector rule.
biting ,gouging, wet willys etc. should lead to automatic suspension, incarceration and mental evaluation.

 

[nzm136]

Technically there is battery every play if you wanna get technical. Every time someone touches someone else is technically battery. It was battery for the late-ish hit that prompted the punch, why not arrest them both?

Get a grip on yourself

Technically there is not battery every play. You misunderstand battery.

 

[nzm136]

Community hours for something that happened on an athletic field? Are you serious? These kids already do enough community work, what purpose would that serve?

You are right we are not one of the other 126 FBS schools but the NCAA rules govern everybody the same and we are no different. Just like laws in society.

1. It doesn't matter where he punched the kid. He still punched the kid. Unless he was boxing, that's a problem.

2. The NCAA sets the minimum. If you want to root for a school that does the minimum, I suggest that you start following the team in State College. Thy did the minimum.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

We aren't USC, and we aren't Miami. We're Syracuse, and I like it that way. He should get more than the absolute minimum punishment required by the NCAA/ACC. In my opinion, he should get some community service hours (that must be filled by the end of the school year - May) and more stadiums/sprints than he can count this week (we have a bye so it won't make him tired for any games). If the ACC forces us to sit him out any length, then we can call it a day. Otherwise, he should miss the first series of our directional Michigan game.

I think that fits the crime, and it isn't overly burdensome, but it will instill a sense of discipline and keep him from acting stupid in the future. It also won't tangibly affect our on the field product.

EDIT:
If this hasn't already happened, he should be forced to write a hand-written apology to the guy that he punched. Sure the guy gave him a little bit of a cheap short to elicit the punch, but we're the bigger men and should be held o a higher standard.

Yeah exactly. He should also have to write on the board in the team meeting room I SHALL NOT HIT OTHER PLAYERS 500 times.

 

[nzm136]

Battery? Really? Have you ever played a sport in your life? Three years ago that would've just been a 15-yard penalty and that's it. The punishment was more than enough.

He literally punched a guy in the face. That isn't even an exaggeration. Have YOU ever played a sport in your life?

To put things in perspective, Albert Haynesworth got a 5 game suspension for stomping someone in the face. No, this isn't as bad as that (the guy didn't have a helmet on), but then again, nobody is pushing for a 5 game suspension, either. Saying that punching someone in the face isn't a big deal screams "I'm a 13 year old kid who is hopped up on Mountain Dew and Madden, and I've never left the couch for anything other than pizza and microwaveable TV dinners." I'm not saying that's what you are, but it's what you sound like. Punching someone out of frustration is not the way things are handled in the working world, and it shows a complete lack of control/discipline and maturity. It doesn't fly on the pee wee level and it doesn't fly on the professional level. It shouldn't fly on the collegiate level.

 

[CuseOnly]

Technically there is not battery every play. You misunderstand battery.

Battery Definition-
Battery is a criminal offense involving unlawful physical contact, distinct from assault which is the act of creating apprehension of such contact.

In the United States, criminal battery, or simply battery, is the use of force against another, resulting in harmful, offensive or sexual contact.[1] It is a specific common law misdemeanor, although the term is used more generally to refer to any unlawful offensive physical contact with another person, and may be a misdemeanor or a felony, depending on the circumstances. Battery was defined at common law as "any unlawful touching of the person of another by the aggressor himself, or by a substance put in motion by him."[2] In most cases, battery is now governed by statutes, and its severity is determined by the law of the specific jurisdiction.

If I grab someone in a football game under his pads and pancake him to the turf, it is OK. If I do that to anyone on the street it is felony assault. So Yeah, it does matter where you do something.

In general, if Someone does not want to be touched and you touch them, it is battery. That is the definition and actually is the law. Trust me I know.

On the football field throwing a punch is a penalty just like a facemask.

Last I checked he isn't in the working world and isn't going to be there for a few more years. He is still a kid playing a game. I wish my son made as few mistakes as Hunt as I have a kid the same age.

Comparing this incident and "doing the minimum" to Ped State aren't in the same realm or reality and you need to pump the brakes with your comparisons.

What it screams is I am a kid and made a mistake and already served my penalty under the rules. If you want to unjustly and outside of the rules penalize A KID for a mistake, maybe you should quit your job and get a job with the NCAA itself and be in charge of the transfer rules.

You sound like a guy that never made a mistake or was penalized for it and for that I applaud you. You also sound like a guy that never played a sport. I played football all the way through my senior year of HS and I clocked a few guys for holding and a bunch of other dirty S&*t just like the kid that hit Hunt from behind to the helmet.

You also sound like you are better than me and everybody else and are allowed to pass judgement on all of us. For that I applaud you as well.

 

[javadoc]

I think that this is an interesting question. On one hand, there is no defense for his actions, and they were embarrassing to the school, the team, and himself. Furthermore, they were the epitome of unprofessional. On the other hand, it was a 6 inch punch to a guy's helmet after a questionably late hit. More violent things happen all the time in football. And, adding an interesting twist, he is vital to the team, and this is a very important stretch of the season. These are the very winnable games (i.e. as opposed to Clemson and FSU) and are vital towards gaining bowl eligibility for the 3rd straight year (4th in 5 years). Not only would that be eat for perception and fan experience, it would be fantastic for recruiting.

It's obvious that Hunt should be punished, but where should the line be drawn? What should the punishment be? Discuss.

Nothing. He should get a shoulder stripe for channeling the GREAT Marvin Graves.

 

[BlazeOrange]

2. The NCAA sets the minimum. If you want to root for a school that does the minimum, I suggest that you start following the team in State College. Thy did the minimum.

Look, we want you to express yourself, okay? Now if you feel that the bare minimum is enough, then okay. But some people choose to wear more and we encourage that, okay? You do want to express yourself, don't you?

 

[orangepassion]

Make him read the Board after every loss..every last post for 24 hours

 

[SUFaninNJ]

Look, we want you to express yourself, okay? Now if you feel that the bare minimum is enough, then okay. But some people choose to wear more and we encourage that, okay? You do want to express yourself, don't you?

Well, the new uniforms could use some flair.