What we are waiting for w/ Fab

[SkanSU]

WOW!
Can anyone confirm or debunk this?

NYS Dept. of Education Part 200 regulations

 

[Flora'cuse]

NYS Dept. of Education Part 200 regulations

LOL

Not that part.

The - it does or doesn't apply to him currently (implied) part.

 

[007]

Ummm ... I am neither lending credibility or discrediting this rumor (there are so many of them) but ... Fab is supposedly fluent in both Portugese (the "official" language of Brazil) and Spanish (a heavy 2nd language in Brazil). He obviously can also speak English (which he learned best from watching TV and not through ESL classes in Florida as was reported). Learning-speaking a language can be a whole lot different than reading-writing a language that can be significantly impacted by the presence of a learning disability. If he has difficulty reading than he will have difficulty writing... in any language. And, believe it or not, that he is trilingual can actually compound and complicate the problem. If he has been, previously, identified as an individual with a learning disability than he would have an IEP that would carry into college courses ... allowing the instructor/professor to complete a test orally without having to check with NCAA or any other rulings.

Technically, the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) is not in effect in higher education, so the IEP would not carry into college. Under Section 504 and the ADA, colleges must provide – at no cost to the student — “reasonable accommodations” to make their programs accessible to students with documented "disabilities."

I don't know if Fab is eligible under 504 for accommodations. And, if anyone did know for sure, it probably should not be posted in a public forum.

 

[Orangetradition44]

Are they really that similar? I had to have a Portuguese text translated, so I gave it the guy who translated the Spanish version. He looked at me confused and said he had no idea what language that was. His guess was French.

Spanish and Portuguese are extremely similar languages (like 90% overlap). I am sure Fab could get by in any Spanish speaking country. This story is one of the funnier ones I have seen though.

 

[Orangetradition44]

Yes, d@mn them and their facts getting in the way of a good story. Those b@stards!

For what it's worth, the rumor I heard this weekend ... 2nd hand from a ad employee... Fab got a 1.99 gpa. You need a 2.

Jake, confirm or debunk

 

[SBU72]

Not plausible, just silly.

I went to HS school with a guy who was french Candian but a US citizen. He took French as his foreign language. He had trouble with the teacher as he spoke "Parisian" french and would not let the kid get away with his Candian pronounation. Writen was fine but the oral labs were a problem.

 

[rrlbees]

For what it's worth, the rumor I heard this weekend ... 2nd hand from a ad employee... Fab got a 1.99 gpa. You need a 2.

Jake, confirm or debunk

I can debunk that because it isn't 2.0. It is a sliding scale and is 1.8 for sophs, 1.9 for juniors and 2.0 for seniors. Here is the wording;

• Students maintain eligibility by remaining a full-time and earn at least 24 semester credits, or 36 quarter credits, in their freshman year to be eligible as a sophomore. To stay eligible after that, students must have earned at least 18 semester credits, or 27 quarter credits, in the preceding academic year (with at least six credits passed each term).
• By the beginning of a student's third academic year, they must be officially enrolled in a specific degree program and have completed at least 40 percent of the requirements for that degree. By the beginning of their fourth academic year, they must have completed at least 60 percent of their degree requirements.
• The minimum GPA is a 1.8 on a 4.0 scale for eligibility as a sophomore. Third year students' minimum is 1.9 and for seniors, 2.0.
  Students must complete their four years of eligibility within five calendar years of their graduation from high school. However, exceptions to this rule may be granted due to circumstances such as injury, military service, or required church missions.

 

[SkanSU]

Technically, the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) is not in effect in higher education, so the IEP would not carry into college. Under Section 504 and the ADA, colleges must provide – at no cost to the student — “reasonable accommodations” to make their programs accessible to students with documented "disabilities."

I don't know if Fab is eligible under 504 for accommodations. And, if anyone did know for sure, it probably should not be posted in a public forum.

Absolutely and technically correct ... and absolutely correct re: not publicizing on a public forum. Technically correct that Colleges "must"provide under 504 but typically identified kids will be spotted and provided similar services by the colleges in accordance with the IEP ... or under a new 504 IEP as they enter college or were provided one before college..

 

[HoustonCuse]

Are they really that similar? I had to have a Portuguese text translated, so I gave it the guy who translated the Spanish version. He looked at me confused and said he had no idea what language that was. His guess was French.

I don't speak either language (very well anyway). I am going off two sources: The interwebs which claims that 89% of the vocabulary in these two languages is common and friends I have had who speak Portuguese, 100% of whom also spoke Spanish.

 

[arrow2arinzesknee]

I find it so strange that we have to place so many academic requirements on these kids for one and that they are all equal across the board. (meaning a 2.0 at SU does not equal a 2.0 at a state school, or a 2.0 at Northwestern or Stanford for that matter)

Look I am not undervaluing the importance of a good education, and most of these kids do not understand the opportunity a scholarship gives them, and the tutors and procedures in place are ultimately a good thing, but lets face it these kids produce revenue to the school, and in the case of Syracuse for sure, offsets the cost of their scholarships and allows the school to do great things and expand their educational programs. I understand you need requirements on these kids, but to a certain extent does it matter if Fab Melo gets a 1.7 or a 2.0? it probably should but you run into the problem of one bad grade plummeting your prospects potentially.

My junior year of college I was taking a Freshman level History course due a change in majors, I was instructed to write a mid-term paper on the spread of evangelical religion during the Antebellum period in U.S History. I was majoring in U.S history at the time and the paper seemed easy enough. It was worth like 75% of the midterm grade and ultimately like 25% of the total grade. I wrote my ass off, but my teacher who was anti-religion did not like my paper and gave me an , he stated I was given three source materials to use and because I used more sources than that I didn't follow instructions. Out of the 100 or so college papers I wrote this one was in the top 5, when I turned it in I knew it was an A, the teacher must have been in a mood when he graded it or misinterpreted it, ultimately my GPA that semester was poor (by my standards) due to the C I got in the class due to this one paper. I had an appeal done on the grade and had it regraded by 4 other professors, each of which gave me at least an A- they averaged the four and replaced the grade which allowed me my coveted 3.5 GPA

All I am saying is these kids are money makers for the school, they could have one situation ruin it for them, and I think a 2.0 should be easy, but with the practices and travel its not a cakewalk, its not like Dion Waiters is going to need to know differential calculus to Dunk over NBA guards.


Oh... and I just checked and Georgetown definitively still sucks