When other fan bases recognize Dino is our weakness

[orangenauburn]

BS

It was in a couple of their game threads regarding wake cuse. Go search it

 

[OrangePA]

It was in a couple of their game threads regarding wake cuse. Go search it

Who cares.

 

[Bayside44]

It's an issue

Tiger net was fearing our D next week but then realized they have Dabo not Dino so they will win

Three games due to specials, two for sure to coaching

It sucks to know how close we are to being legit and recognized, only to be held back by our coach and his shat decisions

The guy who brought the players and gets us on the doorstep? Funny ran into some people the last couple of days who think we're right there.

This isn't the NFL. Coach is GM, President, Coach, etc etc etc...but of course we all know that.

And Clemson should really know better.

 

[orangenauburn]

Who cares.

You did when you said BS

 

[AngryOtto]

I 100% agree it’s on Dino for not hiring a Lustig replacement.
He should be held responsible.
I would never think he shouldn’t.

Who should of he not hired or fired for a special teams coach. He brought in samuels for the wr. They have not improved at this point but he is trying for improvement. So should he fire leach or ferri. Those are the other two o options.
He keeps making changes. We know specials are a problem in the kicking game. He did bring a special team consultant that was previously with the Jets.

 

[orangenauburn]

Who should of he not hired or fired for a special teams coach. He brought in samuels for the wr. They have not improved at this point but he is trying for improvement. So should he fire leach or ferri. Those are the other two o options.
He keeps making changes. We know specials are a problem in the kicking game. He did bring a special team consultant that was previously with the Jets.

The Jets ...

 

[Cuse69]

The 3rd and 23...without that ridiculousness I think we win. Bad decision to take the penalty but...3rd and 23. Cmon.

Got burned deep way too many times. I thought we had a good D after the nonconference games.

After 2 ACC games, I’d say it’s decent. Not gonna win us the game against anybody good, but they’ll compete, not get completely shredded, and make some good stops and plays here and there.

Agree, at a minimum he cost us 4 points yesterday no questions asked. One could argue that number is closer 10 and I wouldn't disagree. People act like texas oklahoma game and arkansas ole miss didn't both go into the 50's, our D is solid but it's not like we have nfl players flying around the field.

 

[TheCusian]

Dino is the captain of the ship. His decision to not hire a new special teams coach and just put it on the plate of the other coaches was HIS decision and as we have seen, he’s not so good at that.

The poor field position due to punting, the missed fg’s, the kickoff and punt blocking, the terrible play clock management in dead ball situations, it’s all on him.

In past poor seasons he has fired his coordinators who were ALSO his decisions as he hired them to begin with.

Are you seeing the pattern here? At a certain point the guy who makes the decisions needs to be held responsible.

Who hired Lustig

 

[TheCusian]

It was in a couple of their game threads regarding wake cuse. Go search it

I care less about their opinions than I do our own posters and I like some of you guys

 

[Cusefan69]

When other fan bases know Dino is our weakness its an issue? Not going to lie, the last thing I care about is what other fan bases think, about Syracuse or anything else for that matter. Who cares what other fan bases think? The entire coaching staff is under a microscope, every play and decision being scrutinized. I will be honest, I have no major issues with the in game decisions made. Honestly every call people have heartburn with, would have been the same call made by allot of coaches. What sux is they are not working out. Hindsight always is 20/20. The major problem I do have with Dino and staff is the “operational issues”. Time out management, clock management,no play ready at end of game, no seeming communication on the sideline between OC and QB. That tells me that they are not prepared and don’t have situational awareness. Thats the problem. Play enough games like they have with FSU and Wake and the wins will come. Dino, White and Gilbert need to get their act together though on being prepared.

 

[AZOrange]

One can argue it was a good call to make, but there’s no universe where it’s 100%.

There’s no universe where anyone says coherently that it was a good call to make. We literally just gave them another chance to get closer.

 

[wolfhound]

Not even close. So you take the penalty and play prevent defense, which is our go to. They don’t convert the 1st down but throw the ball 12-15 yards down the field because that’s easy to do since we provide WR’s such a huge cushion. Then they kick a FG closer and in the range their kicker is comfortable/accurate and their % of converting at least 3 points is drastically higher. It’s not even 100% close to being the right call. There were so many other possible options taking the penalty, for WF to convert an easier 3, at least. This is simple stuff actually.

Yes it’s very close to 100%, if the linebacker steps up like he should have and makes a play on the ball Wake is punting. The call was correct the defense was correct, the execution by the player was not.

 

[David321]

I definitely have my issues with Dino but my fear is this; if he were to be let go, would multiple players leave with him? That’s something to consider.

 

[qdawgg]

Yes it’s very close to 100%, if the linebacker steps up like he should have and makes a play on the ball Wake is punting. The call was correct the defense was correct, the execution by the player was not.

But he didn’t. So not 100%. I think you proved my point actually. Again, the context matters. We always plays a prevent D in that situation and even outside of that situation typically play off the WR’s. So given all that, their chances of getting 10+ yards on the 3rd down were fairly high. 1st down or not.

 

[qdawgg]

I definitely have my issues with Dino but my fear is this; if he were to be let go, would multiple players leave with him? That’s something to consider.

Depends on how the season goes. If we stay at only 3 (I think we win at least one more but no more than 5) then what’s it matter if players leave. Your coach is the biggest obstacle to winning, why would you hold on to him. If players left, why would it matter if the coach isn’t able to get the team to at least a reasonable win total. This schedule is about as easy as it can get this year and who knows if we’ll even make a bowl game.

 

[David321]

Depends on how the season goes. If we stay at only 3 (I think we win at least one more but no more than 5) then what’s it matter if players leave. Your coach is the biggest obstacle to winning, why would you hold on to him. If players left, why would it matter if the coach isn’t able to get the team to at least a reasonable win total. This schedule is about as easy as it can get this year and who knows if we’ll even make a bowl game.

Because we have a real solid team right now. Change the coach, watch the wins pile up. I want the best of both worlds; a coaching change but the players stay.

 

[orangepassion]

I definitely have my issues with Dino but my fear is this; if he were to be let go, would multiple players leave with him? That’s something to consider.

IF we have another terrible season (let's say 4-8, with one win in the ACC), would multiple players leave if we keep him? Would we lose more coaches (very possibly why we lost Lustig) who are wary of being in a lame-duck situation? Just like the fans, players want reasons for optimism and hope.

 

[David321]

IF we have another terrible season (let's say 4-8, with one win in the ACC), would multiple players leave if we keep him? Would we lose more coaches (very possibly why we lost Lustig) who are wary of being in a lame-duck situation? Just like the fans, players want reasons for optimism and hope.

That’s definitely a fair point.

 

[wolfhound]

But he didn’t. So not 100%. I think you proved my point actually. Again, the context matters. We always plays a prevent D in that situation and even outside of that situation typically play off the WR’s. So given all that, their chances of getting 10+ yards on the 3rd down were fairly high. 1st down or not.

Ok you win 99.9% happy now. If we blitz and Wake throws a long out for a TD, because the corner got beat. Wake fakes the fg and runs for a TD because the db fell down. Or he kicks the fg and it’s a 1 to 3 point Wake win. It’s all on bad coaching by your point.
My point players have to execute any play that the coaches call, if they are in position to make the play the coach made the correct call, the player just was not able to execute that play. So correct call was made, (99.9%) execution by the player was the problem.

 

[wfschrec]

IF we have another terrible season (let's say 4-8, with one win in the ACC), would multiple players leave if we keep him? Would we lose more coaches (very possibly why we lost Lustig) who are wary of being in a lame-duck situation? Just like the fans, players want reasons for optimism and hope.

Lustig went to Vandy and is already in a lame duck situation

 

[Cuse181]

It’s just a “meh” defense, which I guess is still steps above 2019 and 2020.

I mean, top 25 in total defense, but yeah only “meh…”

 

[orangepassion]

Lustig went to Vandy and is already in a lame duck situation

Not yet-It's year 1. Can't see Vandy giving him less than 3 years.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Not yet-It's year 1. Can't see Vandy giving him less than 3 years.

Vandy has been horrendous. The hot D coordinator from ND has not been a great road for finding head coaches. Impossible job though really unless you are a total scum bag like Franklin

 

[qdawgg]

Ok you win 99.9% happy now. If we blitz and Wake throws a long out for a TD, because the corner got beat. Wake fakes the fg and runs for a TD because the db fell down. Or he kicks the fg and it’s a 1 to 3 point Wake win. It’s all on bad coaching by your point.
My point players have to execute any play that the coaches call, if they are in position to make the play the coach made the correct call, the player just was not able to execute that play. So correct call was made, (99.9%) execution by the player was the problem.

I’m sorry if you don’t realize that some plays are more likely to happen then others. That some plays have a large % to happen or not happen. Nothing is 100%, the game is coached on %’s.

What I provided was context according to %’s. Every logical possibility in that situation, was more likely to play out by accepting the penalty because we almost 100% of the time play some form of prevent D in that situation. Declining the penalty would have resulted in a direct either/or scenario, missing or making the FG. Forcing a kicker to make a FG he’s never made before is a very high % play. Even if he were to make it, being up 2 scores was a far superior position then the other likely outcomes. It also would have kept the momentum on our side, which we then lost and never completely regained.

 

[tbonezone]

"When other fan bases recognize Dino is our weakness"​

"i want you boys to go out there and LOSE the coin toss. when it's in the air call STARS. let dino decide what to do next."