When will Syracuse basketball coach Jim Boeheim reach 1,000* career wins this season?

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[bozophobe]

It'd have to be around February, no?

And edit that thread title - you ain't in asterisk country, Bucko.

 

[MSOrange]

It'd have to be around February, no?

And edit that thread title - you ain't in asterisk country, Bucko.

No he's only 11 away without the asterisk so late December hopefully.

 

[tentoesin]

I think you guys are going to have a strong team this year but I think asking for 116 wins in one season is probably a bit much. But I suppose you never know, go on a run...

 

[skurey]

I think you guys are going to have a strong team this year but I think asking for 116 wins in one season is probably a bit much. But I suppose you never know, go on a run...

Look at this guy. Some kind of jokey joke maker.

 

[cuseattle]

Look at this guy. Some kind of jokey joke maker.

Maybe he didn't understand the premise of the thread. He is a UConn fan.

 

[HastingsCuse]

If anyone designs and starts selling a t-shirts to commemorate the occasion I will buy at least 4 t-shirts (for myself and family)
My suggestion: "JB 1000" on the front and "Mark Emmert can't change history" on the back. Any other suggestions?

 

[Cuse House]

What are the chances JB gets his wins back at some point?

 

[jordoo]

What are the chances JB gets his wins back at some point?

IMO 100%. The question is when that happens more then if in my mind. It simply needs to be challenged.

Where is the list that shows which games do not count and how to they correspond with the actual violations? How did any of the violations make the players playing not qualified to play in the wins they vacated? Even Fab's games he was going through the process with the NCAA they knew what was going on and allowed him to play. Which games are actually vacated? I don't think anyone knows and my guess is that there is no solid reasoning to back it up so they never gave an actual list showing the games, matched with players playing who should be ineligible because of a violation. Its a bunch of BS!

 

[Cuse House]

IMO 100%. The question is when that happens more then if in my mind. It simply needs to be challenged.

Where is the list that shows which games do not count and how to they correspond with the actual violations? How did any of the violations make the players playing not qualified to play in the wins they vacated? Even Fab's games he was going through the process with the NCAA they knew what was going on and allowed him to play. Which games are actually vacated? I don't think anyone knows and my guess is that there is no solid reasoning to back it up so they never gave an actual list showing the games, matched with players playing who should be ineligible because of a violation. Its a bunch of BS!

Glad to hear that it's highly likely. That's one penalty that I think should never be levied. The games were played, and there was a winner and a loser. JB has given so much outside of basketball and he deserves to be above 1,000 wins.

 

[orangefog]

IMO 100%. The question is when that happens more then if in my mind. It simply needs to be challenged.

Where is the list that shows which games do not count and how to they correspond with the actual violations? How did any of the violations make the players playing not qualified to play in the wins they vacated? Even Fab's games he was going through the process with the NCAA they knew what was going on and allowed him to play. Which games are actually vacated? I don't think anyone knows and my guess is that there is no solid reasoning to back it up so they never gave an actual list showing the games, matched with players playing who should be ineligible because of a violation. Its a bunch of BS!

I agree, if Joe Paterno got his wins back, JB should surely get his wins back. It still amazes me that SU self reported the incidents and took the appropriate actions to eliminate the problem(s) and then got hit with lack of institutional control. Please correct me if I am wrong, but when JB was made aware of problems, he took action. That is the definition of institutional control. I still get angry, I am working on it.

 

[jordoo]

I agree, if Joe Paterno got his wins back, JB should surely get his wins back. It still amazes me that SU self reported the incidents and took the appropriate actions to eliminate the problem(s) and then got hit with lack of institutional control. Please correct me if I am wrong, but when JB was made aware of problems, he took action. That is the definition of institutional control. I still get angry, I am working on it.

They spent 7-8 years trying to hammer us. They dug everywhere to come up with THE SKELETON that would put us under. In the end they wound up with, a kid not sighting himself as a source on a paper, a handful of kids (some fball) getting paid a little too much to ref games at the Y and of course SU not properly enforcing its own (not required) drug policy. JB did not call the parents when they failed drug tests for weed, he was unaware that it was mandatory (apparently) and either way the policy did not require that the players missed games for these failed tests. All in all we look extremely clean after 7 years of digging.

 

[orangefog]

They spent 7-8 years trying to hammer us. They dug everywhere to come up with THE SKELETON that would put us under. In the end they wound up with, a kid not sighting himself as a source on a paper, a handful of kids (some fball) getting paid a little too much to ref games at the Y and of course SU not properly enforcing its own (not required) drug policy. JB did not call the parents when they failed drug tests for weed, he was unaware that it was mandatory (apparently) and either way the policy did not require that the players missed games for these failed tests. All in all we look extremely clean after 7 years of digging.

I totally agree, and yet the way it was presented and the extent of the punishment creates the narrative that JB and the SU program are cheaters, meanwhile UNC skates. Louisville will skate. Wheelhouse BS.

 

[jordoo]

I totally agree, and yet the way it was presented and the extent of the punishment creates the narrative that JB and the SU program are cheaters, meanwhile UNC skates. Louisville will skate. Wheelhouse BS.

Small private school, rather than big public or state school. This is usually the difference with who the NCAA goes after and who they allow to skate.

 

[NorSyr66]

With the 1000th win only 11 games away, I would hope the fans at the dome would make a big deal out of the count down so it would remind the fans, game announcers, media, et al of the pending historic moment for Syracuse basketball. After each game (win) reduce the count down. Maybe add an Orange basketball to a counter. I am sure some group of fans/students can come up with a clever idea that will attract attention to the early part of the season as the 1000th win approaches.

 

[CuseMan4]

Whether he gets the wins back or not, everyone knows he'all have 1,000 wins...the games happened and you can't take that away. Once he gets 1,000 wins it'll be headlines on sport shows, you know Seth Greenberg and Jay Bilas will talk it up. So it'll be a big moment once he gets 1,000.

 

[cpatrocks]

With the 1000th win only 11 games away, I would hope the fans at the dome would make a big deal out of the count down so it would remind the fans, game announcers, media, et al of the pending historic moment for Syracuse basketball. After each game (win) reduce the count down. Maybe add an Orange basketball to a counter. I am sure some group of fans/students can come up with a clever idea that will attract attention to the early part of the season as the 1000th win approaches.

I thought we were gonna call it the "1000th time JB's opponent lost" since they didn't take the losses away from the teams we played. Nobody can argue with that one.

 

[cusetown1]

The most comical part about this whole thing is the geniuses took away the wins but left the losses . That makes no sense.

 

[jordoo]

The most comical part about this whole thing is the geniuses took away the wins but left the losses . That makes no sense.

It pretty funny, we lose x number of wins the teams we beat still get losses. When they show stats for head to head either coaches or teams they still count them.

 

[Consigliere]

What are the chances JB gets his wins back at some point?

Less than 10%. Difference is that by their twisted logic the NCAA feels the wins were vacated because Syracuse used what should have been considered ineligible players. In the Penn State situation the wins were vacated because an entire program and culture were corrupt but nothing happened that would have made individual players ineligible.

 

[SBU72]

Do they celebrate his "900th". Again?

 

[Delmar]

Less than 10%. Difference is that by their twisted logic the NCAA feels the wins were vacated because Syracuse used what should have been considered ineligible players. In the Penn State situation the wins were vacated because an entire program and culture were corrupt but nothing happened that would have made individual players ineligible.

What if you have a coach who should have been ineligible? Shouldn't that count?

Since Paterno had his wins restored, then the NCAA has no cause to ever have anyone's wins vacated.

 

[Flacusian]

I agree that all Syracuse fans should make a REALLY BIG DEAL about JB's 1000th win. Bring as much attention to it as possible and the fact that the NCAA is morally bankrupt and totally uneven handed in the way it metes out punishment. JB was totally railroaded. I'm going to revel in every win as we roll like a juggernaut toward March and a #1 seed and the a$$hats who threw JB under the bus will be 2 face-edly fawning over him, the zone and his genius.

It's going to be ever so sweet. Unless you are going to strip about 1000 wins from several coaches who I will allow to remain unnamed... give him back recognition for all the wins he had. There is no "giving back" or "reinstatement of wins" because as win is a win is a win. PERIOD.

And that my friends is the way I feel about it.

 

[Consigliere]

What if you have a coach who should have been ineligible? Shouldn't that count?

Since Paterno had his wins restored, then the NCAA has no cause to ever have anyone's wins vacated.

Ethically, it certainly should. Paterno fostered a culture that chose to turn it's back on child rape to avoid casting negative light on the program. As I stated before, to me that creates a recruiting advantage by suppressing the true state and lack of values in the program. However, by the letter of NCAA "law" and under threat of lawsuit the NCAA had issued no show cause order against Paterno or the staff and found no rationale to declare individual players ineligible so logically they were not able to defend the decision to vacate wins.

When you have a stupid penalty in your arsenal, and "vacating " wins is as stupid as it gets, there is no real logic to how it should be applied.

JB will inflict the 1000th loss on an opposing coach sometime in December. Works for me.