Where do you think Dino ranks...

[HRE Otto IV]

Recruiting is a big part of coaching. Any HC that has been at their school less than 3 years gets a TBD. For the rest looking at just recruiting is Dino n ot the worst? Our O talent is the worst in the ACC. The upperclass D talent does not exist. I like the young D talent. The current class is supposed to be ACC level. Those 1st four classes have been a major bust thus far.

But in terms of actual football Dino is top 1/3 of the conference. The talent is so bad I'd have to put him in the bottom 1/3 overall.

 

[Cuse'91]

Screw Ohana; lack of effort players need to be shown the door after this season. I can think of several players easily off of the top of my head...

 

[P Vasiloff]

Overall I think most played hard. Greenwood on one particular play that everyone knows, looked like he wasn't trying. Taj looked disinterested most of the game.

Harris had another on the field melt down when Culpepper got called for intentional grounding. He was jumping up and down and whaling his arms. Absolutely no reason for that. He did his usual dropped a contested ball right in his hands too.

 

[Briancuse]

BS

We will agree to disagree. I didn't. See effort.

 

[kcsu]

I know this is a football post but I would argue lacrosse was never spitting the bed, we won acc titles and were a NCAA playoff team every year with a final four appearance since the last title. Desko has to fight lofty expectations and will return the team to that standard thanks to the new resources but to say we were ever as bad as football has been under Dino Babers and Scott Shafer is a stretch in my opinion.

Dino isnt in the same league as Desko. Not even close.

 

[JeffCuse]

Right now Dino is the worst coach in the ACC

 

[GreekFreak]

As far as the original question: “You are what your record says you are.” That’s NOT debatable.

 

[IDOC]

Charisma puts him in the lower middle.

 

[OrangeDW]

Right now Dino is the worst coach in the ACC

That’s not how it works.

 

[JeffCuse]

That’s not how it works.

It’s a subjective question. Tell me the objective formula then?

I’ll take it one step farther he already would have been fired by at least half of the programs if not more.

 

[OrangeDW]

It’s a subjective question. Tell me the objective formula?

I’ll take it one step farther he already would have been fired by at least half of the programs if not more.

So he was the 2nd best coach two years ago, but now he’s the worst?

A coach’s “ranking” is determined solely by whatever place his team is in at that moment?

Cmon.

 

[JeffCuse]

So he was the 2nd best coach two years ago, but now he’s the worst?

A coach’s “ranking” is determined solely by whatever place his team is in at that moment?

Cmon.

I never said it was based only on the place of the team at this moment

 

[djorange1989]

2016-2018: middle of the pack
2019-2020: last

 

[orangecuse]

If “you are what your record says you are,” Dino is currently 13-25 in the ACC and 24-32 overall. With 4 games left in YEAR 5, it’s probable that he will lose all 4 remaining games, not to mention the likelihood of being double digit dogs as well. That would put his overall record here at 24-36 & 13-29 in the ACC (ND is a conference game this season).

That’s an overall record percentage of .400 & a conference percentage of .309. Based on this probability, at season’s end, it likely places him at the very bottom of the conference or slightly above.

 

[Briancuse]

So he was the 2nd best coach two years ago, but now he’s the worst?

A coach’s “ranking” is determined solely by whatever place his team is in at that moment?

Cmon.

What's his record in the last two years?

 

[OrangeDW]

If “you are what your record says you are,” Dino is currently 13-25 in the ACC and 24-32 overall. With 4 games left in YEAR 5, it’s probable that he will lose all 4 remaining games, not to mention the likelihood of being double digit dogs as well. That would put his overall record here at 24-36 & 13-29 in the ACC (ND is a conference game this season).

That’s an overall record percentage of .400 & a conference percentage of .309. Based on this probability, at season’s end, it likely places him at the very bottom of the conference or slightly above.

Again, not how it works. All these schools aren’t on equal ground. A lot harder to win at some schools compared to others.

But you all know that.

Good luck on your witch hunt in the middle of a pandemic.

 

[Newhouser]

He's last and he was never the second best coach in the league. We have no identify in year 5. If this was another program going thru this we would be roaring them.

 

[ESUCARYS]

Dino Sayz after every game THEY young. WHY DO U THINK “goodecruitz next year save him?

seriosuzly...he don’t play them young now!

 

[syrBossHogg]

We will agree to disagree. I didn't. See effort.

You didn’t seen enough talent, not effort

 

[Killdozer]

But two years ago he was the 2nd best, right?

Thanks to one player that he inherited.

 

[Killdozer]

I like Dino... I’m expecting a better 2021... I rank him in the middle.

this is definitely a down year, but he’s gone toe to toe with most of the coaches in the conference.

we need more consistency though, and it has to happen fast.

Down year? So the other 4 win seasons were ok?

 

[Killdozer]

Again, not how it works. All these schools aren’t on equal ground. A lot harder to win at some schools compared to others.

But you all know that.

Good luck on your witch hunt in the middle of a pandemic.

What do you mean that is not how it works? He is hired to win football games. Doesn't matter who the opponent is, equal ground or pandemic. It's not a witch hunt, many SU fans just want the losing to stop. If he can't have more the ONE winning season in five years then he has to be on the hot seat. I just want any SU head coach to win. Just get wins and leave all the theatrical sayings at the door!

 

[Orangefizz]

What do you mean that is not how it works? He is hired to win football games. Doesn't matter who the opponent is, equal ground or pandemic. It's not a witch hunt, many SU fans just want the losing to stop. If he can't have more the ONE winning season in five years then he has to be on the hot seat. I just want any SU head coach to win. Just get wins and leave all the theatrical sayings at the door!

This is exactly why I want a coach with a winning pedigree and unique offensive system

 

[OrangeDW]

What do you mean that is not how it works? He is hired to win football games. Doesn't matter who the opponent is, equal ground or pandemic. It's not a witch hunt, many SU fans just want the losing to stop. If he can't have more the ONE winning season in five years then he has to be on the hot seat. I just want any SU head coach to win. Just get wins and leave all the theatrical sayings at the door!

The discussion was where does he rank as a coach. You don’t decide that by simply looking at the current standings.

Pandemic = these schools have no money. Unless you’re funding the firing...good luck.

 

[OrangeDW]

Thanks to one player that he inherited.

Oh, ok. Gotta win with crappy players too, eh? Interesting.

Guy has one of the 6 seasons in SU history with 10 wins, and you won’t even give him credit for it huh? Lots of extra hoops to jump through. Wonder why?