William Kyle appears to be on the shorter side

[CardiacCuse]

I think it's funny you put in Florida's 7'9 guy from up North ha.

We play Houston/Kansas and Tennessee within a 10 day span and then the rest of our noncon is cupcakes. If we're losing to the noncon cupcakes or St Joes who has no coach or are getting bullied under the hoop at center by Q4 teams then the ship is already sunk anyway. The Losses to those 3 top tier programs will not hurt us either especially with 2 of them on the road.

Also Listing out 2nd and 3rd string centers and acting like we should be building a roster around that what if. If your want for the big tall talented center is to roll in the NCAA Tourney there's maybe a 5-10% chance we run into an elite 7 footer so its just a non factor for us.

Last thing you MUST do well in non-conf or your season is basically already over now... Just a reminder that UNC made the tourney last year and was 1-13 in Q1 games. They beat UCLA who ended up being a 7 seed by 2 points in December and that was their best win and their 2nd best win was a nontourney Dayton team on a neutral court, everyone else ACC teams and cupcakes. I think you meant to say that you just can't lose to the cupcakes and need to stack wins. BTW Those cupcakes in the portal era don't have bigs that can ball, they're are all identified quickly and pulled up into P5 programs real fast.

you think its funny i mention what the defending national champs are doing ...with multiple 7 footers?

whatever man. its not only about the ACC to me...i care about what happens in the NCAA tourney...not just getting there

if you think showing up to the NCAA tourney hoping you dont have to play a 7 footer who can score in the post is a good idea, we will never find common ground

 

[CardiacCuse]

If the 44in vertical is accurate, he actually out jumps Warrick.

theres more to defending the post than jumping though...that vert will help on weak side, help defense for sure

but if a 7ft 240 guy backs him down, i dont think his vert will really matter

Vince Carter couldnt cover shaq in the post

 

[sufandu]

theres more to defending the post than jumping though...that vert will help on weak side, help defense for sure

but if a 7ft 240 guy backs him down, i dont think his vert will really matter

Vince Carter couldnt cover shaq in the post

My comment you replied to had nothing to do with his ability to play defense.

I'm done with this thread. It's amazing how people on the basketball board reply to comments completely out of the context.

 

[Orangezoo]

you think its funny i mention what the defending national champs are doing ...with multiple 7 footers?

whatever man. its not only about the ACC to me...i care about what happens in the NCAA tourney...not just getting there

if you think showing up to the NCAA tourney hoping you dont have to play a 7 footer who can score in the post is a good idea, we will never find common ground

The last time you went on this rant you openly admitted you don’t watch many other teams or pay attention… not sure how you are still pressing this argument given you pay little attention to other teams and who they have and just google rosters.

You are incredibly obsessed with center height with nothing but generalizations to back it up.

 

[2B20Again]

Lot's of almost offended feeling takes on here. The OP didn't seem to mean to insult Kyle. It's perfectly reasonable to wonder if taller centers could give him trouble. At the same time, he seems to have athleticism we've lacked for a long time. If he, and we, can play with a more physical and aggressive style, we have a chance to be much better than we have been, but right now we're all pretty much guessing.

 

[2B20Again]

My comment you replied to had nothing to do with his ability to play defense.

I'm done with this thread. It's amazing how people on the basketball board reply to comments completely out of the context.

 

[2B20Again]

Get off the too short nonsense. Like a dog with a bone. Let’s see what happens. Never seen so many negative Nancy’s. I’m 80 years old but most of you act like 100+.

 

[tee1222]

Thanks, everyone, as I cry myself to sleep with this song in my airpods.
Sincerely,
William

 

[Cuse On 3]

I didn't say you did disagree. I said you sounded as if you thought I did. Do you have difficulty with reading comprehension?

Hush little baby don’t say a word, mommas gonna buy you a mockingbird

 

[baggerbob]

My comment you replied to had nothing to do with his ability to play defense.

I'm done with this thread. It's amazing how people on the basketball board reply to comments completely out of the context.

I see his handle and don't bother to read it anymore. I don't put anyone on ignore just skip the posts I don't need to read.

 

[hoopsupstate]

I heard he grew two inches over the past week so everything is fine now. No worries.

 

[tee1222]

I heard he grew two inches over the past week so everything is fine now. No worries.

Is that a generous two inches or real two inches?

 

[Mr. M]

Discussing height only for a center is lazy scouting. You don’t play defense and block shots with your head. Some here would prefer a 7 footer with alligator arms over a 6’9 guy with a 7 foot plus wingspan.

I do think overall strength/size down low is necessary if we wanna be a top 2 or 3 ACC team and be relevant in the tourney. example is, specific to post defense, sophomore Maliq Brown got bullied by teams like UNC down low

 

[Cusefan0307]

I do think overall strength/size down low is necessary if we wanna be a top 2 or 3 ACC team and be relevant in the tourney. example is, specific to post defense, sophomore Maliq Brown got bullied by teams like UNC down low

He played a lot of center for Duke. Perimeter players own part of that too. We’ve been bad on defense at those positions for a long time. That said height is not weight or wingspan.

 

[Niastri]

Discussing height only for a center is lazy scouting. You don’t play defense and block shots with your head. Some here would prefer a 7 footer with alligator arms over a 6’9 guy with a 7 foot plus wingspan.

I am not worried about his height... I am worried he's only 230lb. It looks like he added extra weight this off season, but even 240lb is a little light for center in the ACC.

It's purely a numbers based concern for me. Even if he gained ten pounds this off season, I would be happier if he was 250 instead of 240.

But it doesn't look like he's small in his video.

Watching these highlights, Kyle doesn't look the least bit overmatched by his Big10 opponents. I like this video because it shows a lot of full possessions and not just the fun dunk at the end.

 

[hoopsupstate]

I am not worried about his height... I am worried he's only 230lb. It looks like he added extra weight this off season, but even 240lb is a little light for center in the ACC.

It's purely a numbers based concern for me. Even if he gained ten pounds this off season, I would be happier if he was 250 instead of 240.

But it doesn't look like he's small in his video.

Watching these highlights, Kyle doesn't look the least bit overmatched by his Big10 opponents. I like this video because it shows a lot of full possessions and not just the fun dunk at the end.

When was the last time we had a center who could do what Kyle displayed in this video? He will do just fine.

 

[Niastri]

When was the last time we had a center who could do what Kyle displayed in this video? He will do just fine.

Maliq Brown was just fine for us at center most games... But he was absolutely humiliated by Clemson because they pushed him wherever they wanted him and then laid it in right in his face over and over.

Most games, Kyle will be just fine. It's those occasional games where having a quintet of long 6'9" guys between 225 and 240 lbs as our big man Corp is going to leave us in a bind. Our defense generally isn't good if we are forced to double team in the post.

A player like Onuaku or Lampkin won't be pushed around by pretty much anybody. Kyle, Souare, White, Freeman and Betsey aren't in that physical class. Hopefully it doesn't hurt us in a big spot this year.

 

[eastcuse]

Maliq Brown was just fine for us at center most games... But he was absolutely humiliated by Clemson because they pushed him wherever they wanted him and then laid it in right in his face over and over.

Most games, Kyle will be just fine. It's those occasional games where having a quintet of long 6'9" guys between 225 and 240 lbs as our big man Corp is going to leave us in a bind. Our defense generally isn't good if we are forced to double team in the post.

A player like Onuaku or Lampkin won't be pushed around by pretty much anybody. Kyle, Souare, White, Freeman and Betsey aren't in that physical class. Hopefully it doesn't hurt us in a big spot this year.

This is all true, but Maliq had to shoulder the entire burden himself. The issue wasn't so much that Maliq couldn't hang, it was that he had zero help. We had a 7-4, 7-2, and two 6-11s that played a total of 4 minutes in those games against Clemson. The next tallest players were 6'7 180lb Chris Bell and 6'6 205 Justin Taylor! I view our current roster as having the ability to switch on D, and do a little more "big man by committee."

 

[OmahaCuse]

This is all true, but Maliq had to shoulder the entire burden himself. The issue wasn't so much that Maliq couldn't hang, it was that he had zero help. We had a 7-4, 7-2, and two 6-11s that played a total of 4 minutes in those games against Clemson. The next tallest players were 6'7 180lb Chris Bell and 6'6 205 Justin Taylor! I view our current roster as having the ability to switch on D, and do a little more "big man by committee."

Remember we have a 6’11” guy from GaTech, a 7’0” Freshman and 2, 6’10” forwards who can help.

 

[RedtheGOB]

This is all true, but Maliq had to shoulder the entire burden himself. The issue wasn't so much that Maliq couldn't hang, it was that he had zero help. We had a 7-4, 7-2, and two 6-11s that played a total of 4 minutes in those games against Clemson. The next tallest players were 6'7 180lb Chris Bell and 6'6 205 Justin Taylor! I view our current roster as having the ability to switch on D, and do a little more "big man by committee."

The Taylor and Bell combo at the 3 and 4 was a defensive juggernaut for us.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I think you're all missing the big picture here, which is that this thread gave me the opportunity to bestow Short King as his nickname, and that is literal message board gold.

 

[Orangezoo]

I think you're all missing the big picture here, which is that this thread gave me the opportunity to bestow Short King as his nickname, and that is literal message board gold.

 

[Niastri]

This is all true, but Maliq had to shoulder the entire burden himself. The issue wasn't so much that Maliq couldn't hang, it was that he had zero help. We had a 7-4, 7-2, and two 6-11s that played a total of 4 minutes in those games against Clemson. The next tallest players were 6'7 180lb Chris Bell and 6'6 205 Justin Taylor! I view our current roster as having the ability to switch on D, and do a little more "big man by committee."

Very good points. I am much more enthused by this roster and this group of big men than in previous years. Even last year, after Lampkin and Freeman, we had nothing. This year we have Souare, White and Betsey off the bench. An ACC starter from last year, a top25 and a top50 recruit coming off the bench.

The talent and depth differential from the last two years to this upcoming season is huge.

It's kind of why you have to chuckle at a thread titled "Kyle is Too Short."

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

When was the last time we had a center who could do what Kyle displayed in this video? He will do just fine.

You mean move, look for the ball, and attack the rim. Can’t say I remember anyone like that in these parts for many years

 

[FrancoPizza]

Is that a generous two inches or real two inches?

Depends if he's a grower vs shower.