William Kyle Appreciation Thread

[STEVEHOLT]

UCLA dude supposedly has a 44 inch vert . I’m calling BS. Just like how they claim guys put on 20 lbs of muscle in a few months

 

[SUforme]

UCLA dude supposedly has a 44 inch vert . I’m calling BS. Just like how they claim guys put on 20 lbs of muscle in a few months

Not impossible but would be impressive. I remembered Antonio McDyess has like a 42-44 inch vertical which I thought was crazy back in the day.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

UCLA dude supposedly has a 44 inch vert . I’m calling BS. Just like how they claim guys put on 20 lbs of muscle in a few months

Calling bs on that 6’9!!!! Lol

 

[Cuse_NYC]

UCLA dude supposedly has a 44 inch vert . I’m calling BS. Just like how they claim guys put on 20 lbs of muscle in a few months

He better, since he’s built like an nba 2 guard!!!

 

[2B20Again]

Diawara towers over him. As does Souare and even Sadiq may be a bit taller than him. Hopefully he can hold his own if he starts at center. He’s likely our best shot blocker, and lord knows we need that…

 

[Niastri]

UCLA dude supposedly has a 44 inch vert . I’m calling BS. Just like how they claim guys put on 20 lbs of muscle in a few months

You can't trust heights and weights anyway. We won't start trusting reported vertical leaping or 40 times any time soon. Not until the NBA or NFL combine can you trust any of those reported figures.

But, looking at that picture, if Diawara is actually 7' (a big big if), that puts Souare at 6'10 and Kyle at maybe 6'8? He, White and Betsey seem the same height. Too bad we couldn't get Freeman in the comparative shot...

One thing that stands out is how short Diawara's neck is compared to the other guys. Somebody once commented when talking about Elton Brand back in the day, "You don't play basketball with the top of your head." A more useful measurement for basketball might be the shoulder rather than the top of the head. This is one reason teams are starting to use "standing reach" and "armspan" as a proxy for height when scouting. It doesn't matter how high your head is when standing still if your arms reach nine and a half feet into the sky when you reach up!

Look at where Diawara's shoulders are in comparison to the guys around him. His "useful height" relative to the other tall guys on the team is even higher than his listed additional height.

 

[pearl31]

He better, since he’s built like an nba 2 guard!!!

this is quite an obsession of yours

 

[RedtheGOB]

You can't trust heights and weights anyway. We won't start trusting reported vertical leaping or 40 times any time soon. Not until the NBA or NFL combine can you trust any of those reported figures.

But, looking at that picture, if Diawara is actually 7' (a big big if), that puts Souare at 6'10 and Kyle at maybe 6'8? He, White and Betsey seem the same height. Too bad we couldn't get Freeman in the comparative shot...

One thing that stands out is how short Diawara's neck is compared to the other guys. Somebody once commented when talking about Elton Brand back in the day, "You don't play basketball with the top of your head." A more useful measurement for basketball might be the shoulder rather than the top of the head. This is one reason teams are starting to use "standing reach" and "armspan" as a proxy for height when scouting. It doesn't matter how high your head is when standing still if your arms reach nine and a half feet into the sky when you reach up!

Look at where Diawara's shoulders are in comparison to the guys around him. His "useful height" relative to the other tall guys on the team is even higher than his listed additional height.

Got it, so we don't want long necks and short arms. We need Short necks and long arms.

 

[OmahaCuse]

Wingspan, strength, timing, positioning, vertical, motor, IQ all factor in. What I noticed in UCLA DUDE film is he was dunking on 7’ guys from the Big10 and grabbing rebounds. Can he go toe to toe with a 7’2” monster, not sure. Will he allows us to press, play a switching defense, get blocks, steals and rebounds? Let’s see how it plays out. Assume he shares minutes with the other centers including Freeman. Like the upside he gives us.

 

[Orangezoo]

Wingspan, strength, timing, positioning, vertical, motor, IQ all factor in. What I noticed in UCLA DUDE film is he was dunking on 7’ guys from the Big10 and grabbing rebounds. Can he go toe to toe with a 7’2” monster, not sure. Will he allows us to press, play a switching defense, get blocks, steals and rebounds? Let’s see how it plays out. Assume he shares minutes with the other centers including Freeman. Like the upside he gives us.

You have to force other teams to adjust vs always worrying about whether we can matchup.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Got it, so we don't want long necks and short arms. We need Short necks and long arms.

You want dudes built like the broomsticks that the opposition teams would supposedly use in practices in preparation to facing our zone

 

[Cuse_NYC]

this is quite an obsession of yours

Lol guilty

 

[Sherman20]

You can't trust heights and weights anyway. We won't start trusting reported vertical leaping or 40 times any time soon. Not until the NBA or NFL combine can you trust any of those reported figures.

But, looking at that picture, if Diawara is actually 7' (a big big if), that puts Souare at 6'10 and Kyle at maybe 6'8? He, White and Betsey seem the same height. Too bad we couldn't get Freeman in the comparative shot...

One thing that stands out is how short Diawara's neck is compared to the other guys. Somebody once commented when talking about Elton Brand back in the day, "You don't play basketball with the top of your head." A more useful measurement for basketball might be the shoulder rather than the top of the head. This is one reason teams are starting to use "standing reach" and "armspan" as a proxy for height when scouting. It doesn't matter how high your head is when standing still if your arms reach nine and a half feet into the sky when you reach up!

Look at where Diawara's shoulders are in comparison to the guys around him. His "useful height" relative to the other tall guys on the team is even higher than his listed additional height.

In terms of ability to block shots and protect the rim, wingspan and vertical have always been more relevant to coaches and scouts than height.

 

[IthacaMatt]

In terms of ability to block shots and protect the rim, wingspan and vertical have always been more relevant to coaches and scouts than height.

Yep. Just consider Wes Johnson vs. Arinze or Big Rick in 2010. I haven't looked it up, but I wouldn't be too surprised if Wesley had the most blocks on that team.

 

[2B20Again]

You can't trust heights and weights anyway. We won't start trusting reported vertical leaping or 40 times any time soon. Not until the NBA or NFL combine can you trust any of those reported figures.

But, looking at that picture, if Diawara is actually 7' (a big big if), that puts Souare at 6'10 and Kyle at maybe 6'8? He, White and Betsey seem the same height. Too bad we couldn't get Freeman in the comparative shot...

One thing that stands out is how short Diawara's neck is compared to the other guys. Somebody once commented when talking about Elton Brand back in the day, "You don't play basketball with the top of your head." A more useful measurement for basketball might be the shoulder rather than the top of the head. This is one reason teams are starting to use "standing reach" and "armspan" as a proxy for height when scouting. It doesn't matter how high your head is when standing still if your arms reach nine and a half feet into the sky when you reach up!

Look at where Diawara's shoulders are in comparison to the guys around him. His "useful height" relative to the other tall guys on the team is even higher than his listed additional height.

 

[HyattsCuse]

In terms of ability to block shots and protect the rim, wingspan and vertical have always been more relevant to coaches and scouts than height.

Exactly. I never had any concerns with Jeremy McNeil playing center on defense. Kyle seems like a similar mold with a few less pounds and, from what I’m reading on this board, a higher ceiling as far as potential goes on O and D.

 

[Niastri]

Yep. Just consider Wes Johnson vs. Arinze or Big Rick in 2010. I haven't looked it up, but I wouldn't be too surprised if Wesley had the most blocks on that team.

Rick Jackson led the team with 2 blocks per game, followed by Wes Johnson at 1.8 and Arinze Onuaku at 1.1. The team averaged 6.6 blocks per game, which was 9th in the country back then and would have been .4 blocks per game ahead of UConn for best in the country last year.

By block % though, the best shotblocker on the team was Dash Riley at 11.1%. Small sample sizes are fun.

Of the guys who actually played, they weren't great shotblockers by percentage.

Jackson 8.2, Johnson 5.7 and Onuaku 5.2.

James Southerland was at 7.9, like Riley, in very limited time.

To put it in perspective, McLeod led the team with 7.2% and Majstorovic was second at only 2.1 block%.

We were really bad at defense last season.

Good thing Kyle was at 10.2% playing in the Big 10 last season with UCLA.

Short or not, William Kyle will be a big upgrade defensively for us this season.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Rick Jackson led the team with 2 blocks per game, followed by Wes Johnson at 1.8 and Arinze Onuaku at 1.1. The team averaged 6.6 blocks per game, which was 9th in the country back then and would have been .4 blocks per game ahead of UConn for best in the country last year.

By block % though, the best shotblocker on the team was Dash Riley at 11.1%. Small sample sizes are fun.

Of the guys who actually played, they weren't great shotblockers by percentage.

Jackson 8.2, Johnson 5.7 and Onuaku 5.2.

James Southerland was at 7.9, like Riley, in very limited time.

To put it in perspective, McLeod led the team with 7.2% and Majstorovic was second at only 2.1 block%.

We were really bad at defense last season.

Good thing Kyle was at 10.2% playing in the Big 10 last season with UCLA.

Short or not, William Kyle will be a big upgrade defensively for us this season.

Pretty good guess - Big Rick only beat him out by .2 blocks per game..

 

[tptcuse]

I wish we could change this thread title to just his name like we usually do with players.

 

[Niastri]

I kind of like the fun titles... After he gets four blocks and seven dunks in an early season game, we can change the title to "William Kyle: He's Tall Enough"

 

[RedtheGOB]

I kind of like the fun titles... After he gets four blocks and seven dunks in an early season game, we can change the title to "William Kyle: He's Tall Enough"

I can guarantee you the same people will still be like so I was looking at the Lunardi bracketology and looks like we'll run into Florida in the Semi's of the tourney. See I told you we didn't have an answer for their 7'10 kid!

 

[baggerbob]

I can guarantee you the same people will still be like so I was looking at the Lunardi bracketology and looks like we'll run into Florida in the Semi's of the tourney. See I told you we didn't have an answer for their 7'10 kid!

If this team is playing like the teams of Louie @ Bouie, and the Sherm, DC teams a 7'10 center isn't going to be on the floor very much. Because he would be behind the play too much.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

I can guarantee you the same people will still be like so I was looking at the Lunardi bracketology and looks like we'll run into Florida in the Semi's of the tourney. See I told you we didn't have an answer for their 7'10 kid!

We will ALL be happy to return to the tourney

 

[hoopsupstate]

Kyle’s height is not going to be an issue for him. His elite athleticism and a high motor will make him a fan favorite. He’s also an amazing guy.

 

[Cuse On 3]

Under 7 foot =2.134 meters.. I still think that’s pretty good