I'm not a fortune teller. I'm not going to predict what next year or the year after are going to look like. Seems strained to do that to me.My point has nothing to do with this season.
We all know we are going to struggle this year but there isn’t going to be a Center next year who can come in and help the offense. If Carey goes then we will lose a PG option.
If it’s going to take 3 years to be competitive that is 9 years of mediocrity from JB. It’s amazing how he can’t see enough is enough.
I am not expecting to win a NC every season or even win a conference title but we are looking at a decade( 9 years to be exact) of mediocre regular season play. If it truly is going to take 2 more years to be top 4 ACC good: That goes on JB’s ledger. He is also sensitive to criticism that isn’t a good mix.
My point has nothing to do with this season.
We all know we are going to struggle this year but there isn’t going to be a Center next year who can come in and help the offense. If Carey goes then we will lose a PG option.
If it’s going to take 3 years to be competitive that is 9 years of mediocrity from JB. It’s amazing how he can’t see enough is enough.
I am not expecting to win a NC every season or even win a conference title but we are looking at a decade( 9 years to be exact) of mediocre regular season play. If it truly is going to take 2 more years to be top 4 ACC good: That goes on JB’s ledger. He is also sensitive to criticism that isn’t a good mix.
It might take a few years just to be middle of the pack in the ACC.
I think we are close to middle of the pack in 8-10 range this year. Even if we are a little lower this year if we one player developed I think we are 8-10 range.It might take a few years just to be middle of the pack in the ACC.
My point has nothing to do with this season.
We all know we are going to struggle this year but there isn’t going to be a Center next year who can come in and help the offense. If Carey goes then we will lose a PG option.
If it’s going to take 3 years to be competitive that is 9 years of mediocrity from JB. It’s amazing how he can’t see enough is enough.
I am not expecting to win a NC every season or even win a conference title but we are looking at a decade( 9 years to be exact) of mediocre regular season play. If it truly is going to take 2 more years to be top 4 ACC good: That goes on JB’s ledger. He is also sensitive to criticism that isn’t a good mix.
Is this a team that if nobody leaves next year is a top 4 ACC level team?
If it’s not then the fact we are really young doesn’t matter.
Very few if any P5 teams keep their entire starting 5 in college basketball over 2 years.
Why are we talking about Buddy’s scholarship? Who would we have given it to? A walk-on?
Who have we lost because we didn’t have a scholarship to give them...last year, this year or next when Buddy has had one??
I don’t think we’ve legitimately lost anyone due to not having a scholarship to give them since Huerter and that wasn’t because of Buddy.
I have no confidence this is true. Our centers don't get stronger. They aren't forced to lift. I know I was rough on Chukwu, but he gained no weight the year he was out due to the eye problems. I know he had leg issues one year, but there was no reason for him to not come back 15-25 pounds bigger after the eye issue.
Same is true for BMK, and now Sid and Marek. No changes in their bodies are apparent at all.
I hope you are right on the "stronger" part. However, our bigs the last few years seem to all have a gene that protects them from adding muscle or beef. I am in the believe it when I see it mode on all off season improvements.I think we will be better next year. Out two young centers will be stronger. Which is what they need. Our other young players should be better as well. It is never quite as bad as it looks. I agree that JB has stayed too long. But we are over reacting a bit to what we saw in new York. We were terrible. And we are probably going to be a bad road team. But OSU, Penn St and Virginia are all ranked very high on Ken Poms defensive stats. I am hopeful we will get better as the season goes on.
Why does everyone assume we’ll lose Hughes at the end of the season?Yeah. I don't see the calvary coming next year. If we lose Hughes, which I expect we will, we could be worse next year.
I would not be shocked if we have back-to-back losing seasons. Then the AD is in a really difficult spot.
He will get his degree this year so maybe he will want to move on and be a pro.Why does everyone assume we’ll lose Hughes at the end of the season?
Would the NCAA allow that to happen.?Again while Buddy wouldn’t be “free” it’s not hard to pay JB a bonus that would cover whatever it would cost Buddy plus a couple extra thousand dollars for JB to get this done.
Buddy doesn’t need to be on scholarship if the staff can add another quality player.
Not as a knock on Buddy but to help the program get an extra player.
Both sides we would win in that scenario.
Why does everyone assume we’ll lose Hughes at the end of the season?
Why not? The NCAA has no control over how much money the coach is paid. Coaches get extensions all the time.Would the NCAA allow that to happen.?
Yeah. I don't see the calvary coming next year. If we lose Hughes, which I expect we will, we could be worse next year.
I would not be shocked if we have back-to-back losing seasons. Then the AD is in a really difficult spot.
imo.Why does everyone assume we’ll lose Hughes at the end of the season?
I have NEVER been vocally negative about predicting an SU season record, letting it playout. However in respones to the title of the op, I feel SU is going to struggle to be even in the middle third of the ACC. 2 years, 3 years. AND furthermore, they will be so for the foreseeable future.
Apparently you misunderstood. I meant this is SU's fate no mater what. With or without JB.We also have to consider that things can snowball. Losing begets losing. It will be hard to keep players' confidence up. Turning around a losing attitude will be difficult and something that Boeheim has never really had to do. Neither has he had to recruit for a losing program. And all this is happening as he approaches 80. It's taxing for a young man and I don't think a 76 year old is somehow going to have an easier time of it.
We will. See you in a few yearsWake me up in 2023 when this program has a new direction.