Women's college hoops is a joke

[Ish88888]

Honesty, check out Uconns schedule, mostly 30-50 point wins. What is going on here? Are they good for the sport? No, but if they didn't dominate, those same 4-6 "awesome " girls they get every year would be dispersed on 3,4 teams and there still wouldn't be any competition in the game. Simply put, there isnt enough talented players in the girls game to make it watchable.

 

[Orangeman13]

Plus they act like men. Gross.

 

[Scotch]

Honesty, check out Uconns schedule, mostly 30-50 point wins. What is going on here? Are they good for the sport? No, but if they didn't dominate, those same 4-6 "awesome " girls they get every year would be dispersed on 3,4 teams and there still wouldn't be any competition in the game. Simply put, there isnt enough talented players in the girls game to make it watchable.

Shaughnessy?

 

[STEVEHOLT]

You just realized this now?

 

[Briancuse]

I'm sorry but the people calling Geno one of the greatest coaches in all of sports history is a joke, there is no competition. You can't compare him to a Wooden or a Coach K.

 

[OrangeCrush22]

There aren't enough female athletes for all of these sports at all of these schools. Title IX helped grow female athletics, but now it holds it back.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

I'm sorry but the people calling Geno one of the greatest coaches in all of sports history is a joke, there is no competition. You can't compare him to a Wooden or a Coach K.

Eddie Reese (who?) could claim the same thing. Geno just happens to be the best coach in WBB. Comparing him to other sports is ludicrous.
https://swimswam.com/texas-coach-eddie-reese-ties-for-most-decorated-college-coach-of-all-time/

 

[Brooky03]

There's a thread for this game on the national board I visit. I casually mentioned that Geno wins because he has the best talent year-in and year-out, discounting his x's and o's ability, and a few UConn fans got all pi.ssy. While you can't exactly fault a team for being dominant, games like this don't do the sport any good. And I find it kind of lame to keep your all-star starters in the game when it's wayyyyyyy out of reach with a few minutes to go. The walkons and other bench players can't enjoy some time on the court? Don't want to mess up the 40 point spreads?

 

[Ghost]

There's a thread for this game on the national board I visit. I casually mentioned that Geno wins because he has the best talent year-in and year-out, discounting his x's and o's ability, and a few UConn fans got all pi.ssy. While you can't exactly fault a team for being dominant, games like this don't do the sport any good. And I find it kind of lame to keep your all-star starters in the game when it's wayyyyyyy out of reach with a few minutes to go. The walkons and other bench players can't enjoy some time on the court? Don't want to mess up the 40 point spreads?

Recruiting will always be a huge component when it comes to college coaching. It's hard to separate who is the best Xs and Os coach because of that.

A lot of people think Roy Williams is a terrible coach, but a lot of people would happily disagree. I don't know, it's just another fun aspect of debating college sports.

Obviously with Geno, at this point, you could probably hire any college coach in the world and win the title with how loaded that team is. You can't really judge much about his coaching - that school is in another world compared to other schools when it comes to talent. I would imagine he probably compares to Wooden though in some respects, who had stacked teams that were bought and paid for. That was a different era though too.

I think UConn's dominance probably helps more than hurts the game. I think people tune in for UConn. I'm not sure they would tune in much at all if there wasn't an Evil Empire. It's really hard to watch the sport. I watched the McD's AA game, and that was just sad. I'm not sure what I expected, but it wasn't that. lol

 

[TheCusian]

I'm sorry but the people calling Geno one of the greatest coaches in all of sports history is a joke, there is no competition. You can't compare him to a Wooden or a Coach K.

Why not?

 

[orangehomer]

people like to win. and when you can find a sport that virtually no one cares about and allocate more resources to it than anyone else you can win. it's just usually hard to do, because usually someone eventually cares enough to allocate the same resources, which is what i would say is happening to our lacrosse program now. if anyone else actually cares about women's basketball, eventually yukon will come back to the pack. but for the time being they are unbeatable, they have more fans and no other fanbases care enough. it would basically be like kentucky taking the top 3-4 recruits every year and all of them staying 4 years no matter what.

 

[TheCusian]

Recruiting will always be a huge component when it comes to college coaching. It's hard to separate who is the best Xs and Os coach because of that. A lot of people think Roy Williams is a terrible coach, but a lot of people would happily disagree. I don't know, it's just another fun aspect of debating college sports. Obviously with Geno, at this point, you could probably hire any college coach in the world and win the title with how loaded that team is. You can't really judge much about his coaching - that school is in another world compared to other schools when it comes to talent. I would imagine he probably compares to Wooden though in some respects, who had stacked teams that were bought and paid for. That was a different era though too. I think UConn's dominance probably helps more than hurts the game. I think people tune in for UConn. I'm not sure they would tune in much at all if there wasn't an Evil Empire. It's really hard to watch the sport. I watched the McD's AA game, and that was just sad. I'm not sure what I expected, but it wasn't that. lol

I think hurts the game, but it's not their fault. They are doing what athletes are supposed to do: win.

 

[Briancuse]

There is no competition, its like a college team playing a high school team.

 

[Cowtown]

There aren't enough female athletes for all of these sports at all of these schools. Title IX helped grow female athletics, but now it holds it back.

Interesting thought. Sooner or later you'd think the most talented players would stop flocking to UConn, just like they did UCLA. But that would require a wide enough talent pool. However, based on what I saw this weekend, that just isn't there yet.

 

[721Comstock]

Why not?

Exactly. Wooden didn't have any competition either. Nobody seems be holding that against him and his legacy.

(or the little matter of ALL the recruiting violations and $ that GOT him all those players that got him all those 'ships...
IGNORE THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!! )

 

[Briancuse]

I think hurts the game, but it's not their fault. They are doing what athletes are supposed to do: win.

I'm not blaming him, it is what it is, but you can't compare him to Vince Lombardi or John Wooden, or Coach K.

 

[Ghost]

Why not?

I think the argument would go, if Calipari was keeping ALL of these kids for four years, and going undefeated every year, would you be able to assess much of anything beyond the fact that he's a great recruiter?

I get the point, I don't follow women's hoops to have much of an opinion on anything though!

 

[Ghost]

Wooden didn't have any competition either. Nobody seems be holding that against him and his legacy.

(or the little matter of ALL the recruiting violations and $ that GOT him all those players that got him all those 'ships...
IGNORE THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!! )

I do! I do!

 

[orangehomer]

Why not?

because anyone worth their salt coaches the men, he didn't start crushing it until summit got dementia. there is no money in coaching women anywhere except yukon, all the good coaches coach the men or in the nba. name a women's coach in the AAC

 

[TheCusian]

I'm not blaming him, it is what it is, but you can't compare him to Vince Lombardi or John Wooden, or Coach K.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[Ghost]

Interesting thought. Sooner or later you'd think the most talented players would stop flocking to UConn, just like they did UCLA. But that would require a wide enough talent pool. However, based on what I saw this weekend, that just isn't there yet.

I just glanced at the 2015 rankings, it doesn't look like UConn dominated in their haul. Oddly, at least by the rankings numbers assigned on ESPN the difference between #1 and #839 is negligible.

 

[TheCusian]

because anyone worth their salt coaches the men, he didn't start crushing it until summit got dementia. there is no money in coaching women anywhere except yukon, all the good coaches coach the men or in the nba. name a women's coach in the AAC

So you shouldn't compare him with men's coaches because he's better than the woman's coaches?

 

[TheCusian]

I think the argument would go, if Calipari was keeping ALL of these kids for four years, and going undefeated every year, would you be able to assess much of anything beyond the fact that he's a great recruiter? I get the point, I don't follow women's hoops to have much of an opinion on anything though!

Wooden did that same thing. We did it in lacrosse. Sustained success brings the best players and recruiting is a big % of coaching. If it were not, we'd crown champions on who ran the best inbounds play, or most innovative pick and pop, etc.

I don't follow woman's basketball that closely either - just think it's an interesting topic

 

[NYCSUGrad]

IMO most of the women's teams were unwatchable up until five or so years ago, in terms of quality of play. Now I can watch most of the top 25 and probably the teams that just miss it, and enjoy the games, except when they play UConn. They don't play appreciably worse than many of the mens teams do at times, with all too many mens games barely getting out of the 40s, and not because the defense was stellar. And the Orange women play a REALLY exciting brand of ball. I bet other teams will try to simulate the style, with varying degrees of success. No, you're not going to see hardly any Sports Center worthy dunks, but frankly sometimes the men miss those easy slams, and that is an "ouch" factor for me.

 

[pfister1]

So basically the argument is that Women's basketball sucks because its not men's basketball?

It's different. If you tuned in expecting to see a reprise of the night before, no wonder you are disappointed. I'm not saying I enjoy women's basketball, but I did enjoy watching the Syracuse women play their brand of basketball over these last four games.