Wow, that Ga Tech loss was unbelievable - a question

[IthacaMatt]

I know there has been a general meltdown on the board to match that of the team on Saturday, but let me ask a question -

Do we think that the disaster on Saturday could be attributed to going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defensive front? Or do the problems go deeper than that? Maybe if we had not thrown out our entire existing defensive scheme for this one game, maybe the players would have responded a lot better, and played with a lot more instinct instead of thinking too much.

Because I refuse to believe that Tech was that much better than us. This was hopefully Scott Shafer's first Pasqualoni-style What loss. I hope not many follow, and I hope he sticks to what we do a lot more than he did last weekend.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I know there has been a general meltdown on the board to match that of the team on Saturday, but let me ask a question -

Do we think that the disaster on Saturday could be attributed to going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defensive front? Or do the problems go deeper than that? Maybe if we had not thrown out our entire existing defensive scheme for this one game, maybe the players would have responded a lot better, and played with a lot more instinct instead of thinking too much.

Because I refuse to believe that Tech was that much better than us. This was hopefully Scott Shafer's first Pasqualoni-style What loss. I hope not many follow, and I hope he sticks to what we do a lot more than he did last weekend.

Sorry - wrong board - can the admins move this for me? Thanks.

 

[OrangeTown]

I know there has been a general meltdown on the board to match that of the team on Saturday, but let me ask a question -

Do we think that the disaster on Saturday could be attributed to going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defensive front? Or do the problems go deeper than that? Maybe if we had not thrown out our entire existing defensive scheme for this one game, maybe the players would have responded a lot better, and played with a lot more instinct instead of thinking too much.

Because I refuse to believe that Tech was that much better than us. This was hopefully Scott Shafer's first Pasqualoni-style What loss. I hope not many follow, and I hope he sticks to what we do a lot more than he did last weekend.

My personal belief is that the loss is a culmination of all the bad karma from posting football topics in the basketball forum over the years...

Edit: Aww you beat me to it!

 

[two3zone]

I know there has been a general meltdown on the board to match that of the team on Saturday, but let me ask a question -

Do we think that the disaster on Saturday could be attributed to going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defensive front? Or do the problems go deeper than that? Maybe if we had not thrown out our entire existing defensive scheme for this one game, maybe the players would have responded a lot better, and played with a lot more instinct instead of thinking too much.

Because I refuse to believe that Tech was that much better than us. This was hopefully Scott Shafer's first Pasqualoni-style What loss. I hope not many follow, and I hope he sticks to what we do a lot more than he did last weekend.

Don't think the defensive switch caused our offense to suck nuts.

 

[OrangePA]

I know there has been a general meltdown on the board to match that of the team on Saturday, but let me ask a question -

Do we think that the disaster on Saturday could be attributed to going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defensive front? Or do the problems go deeper than that? Maybe if we had not thrown out our entire existing defensive scheme for this one game, maybe the players would have responded a lot better, and played with a lot more instinct instead of thinking too much.

Because I refuse to believe that Tech was that much better than us. This was hopefully Scott Shafer's first Pasqualoni-style What loss. I hope not many follow, and I hope he sticks to what we do a lot more than he did last weekend.

I hope that Scott Shafer produces the same record of Coach Pasqualoni produced while he was on the Hill.

Do recall that Ga Tech was an opening 9.5 favorite and ultimately I think a 7 point favorite - I don't know of any odds maker that picked SU to win the game.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

I hope that Scott Shafer produces the same record of Coach Pasqualoni produced while he was on the Hill.

Do recall that Ga Tech was an opening 9.5 favorite and ultimately I think a 7 point favorite - I don't know of any odds maker that picked SU to win the game.

Sure but they were willing to take Syracuse at +7.5, big difference

 

[storange]

I think the Defense was a big part of it. Su was moving the ball the first few drives but stoppped by penalties. once we got way behind Tech had us where they wanted us. Both coaches wanted to get up early because neither team could pass the ball. We got behind early. good night

 

[rrlbees]

Do recall that Ga Tech was an opening 9.5 favorite and ultimately I think a 7 point favorite - I don't know of any odds maker that picked SU to win the game.

I don't know of any that picked us to lose by 56.


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[Cuseregular]

running a 3-4 against an option offense is just asinine. But that's just a part of what I'm hoping and want to believe was a perfect storm scenario. Horrendous O and qb play allowed things to snowball, injuries, travel two weeks in a row, etc. combined with bad coaching moves and you get a P style What loss.

I think the season continues to play our similarly, 2 maybe 3 more wins wrapped around some ugly losses. Who know, and likely for most, who cares.

 

[OrangePA]

I don't know of any that picked us to lose by 56.

That's true.

But we were supposed to lose the game - the score was shocking but not the loss.

 

[Chip]

Because it was such a blowout, I decided to look up some blowout stats in more recent times (all post-Pasqualoni, so this isn't a Pasqualoni post and that's the last time I'll say Pasqualoni in this post. Pasqualoni).

GRob was shutout twice in four years, (USF 27-0 in 2005, Iowa 35-0 in 2007).

GRob gave up 50 three times, 2 routs and 1 shootout (WVU 55-14 in 2007, Cincy 52-31 in 2007, PSU 55-13 in 2008).

Marrone was never shutout.

Marrone gave up 50 once, in a shootout (UConn 56-31 in 2009).

So it was only one game, and life will go on. Hopefully the team can just burn the film and move on. But as far as SU blowouts go, even in our darkest GRob days, this one was fairly epic.

 

[longislandcuse]

I think the Defense was a big part of it. Su was moving the ball the first few drives but stoppped by penalties. once we got way behind Tech had us where they wanted us. Both coaches wanted to get up early because neither team could pass the ball. We got behind early. good night

This. Awful defense made our awful offense even more awful.

 

[Whitey23]

Has anyone ever heard of a defense switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in a week and then back again? Baffling.

 

[rosconey]

Has anyone ever heard of a defense switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in a week and then back again? Baffling.

we are trend setters not trend followers

 

[bevosu]

This. Awful defense made our awful offense even more awful.

A mess on both sides.

Early in the game (very early) I kept hoping that the offense would do something so we could keep the defense off the field. I thought the defense needed a rest...and I thought the defense was so bad that it hurt seeing them on the field.

 

[FAL]

I don't know of any that picked us to lose by 56.

Zackly! It's not the loss that hurts, it's by how much. Lots of speculation as to why.

 

[SaltineWarrior]

Has anyone ever heard of a defense switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in a week and then back again? Baffling.

Well this team would have had to actually PLAY a 3-4 defense on Saturday to consider such a wild change of schemes. SU did not do that on Saturday. I maintain we played the 4-3 all along with a few people playing out of position for the week of Ga. Tech.

 

[SarasotaPaul]

I know there has been a general meltdown on the board to match that of the team on Saturday, but let me ask a question -

Do we think that the disaster on Saturday could be attributed to going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defensive front? Or do the problems go deeper than that? Maybe if we had not thrown out our entire existing defensive scheme for this one game, maybe the players would have responded a lot better, and played with a lot more instinct instead of thinking too much.

Because I refuse to believe that Tech was that much better than us. This was hopefully Scott Shafer's first Pasqualoni-style What loss. I hope not many follow, and I hope he sticks to what we do a lot more than he did last weekend.

Ga Tech's offense is so different from any other we play, you cannot stay with the same defense. That said, what we changed to didn't work at all either.

 

[SarasotaPaul]

Has anyone ever heard of a defense switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in a week and then back again? Baffling.

See this: Ga Tech offense is totally different from all others we see. There, baffling should be gone. Coaches tried a drastic plan and it failed. That happens, just ask Forrest Gump. Sometimes you step in it.

 

[Marroniac]

I'm far from an X's and O's expert, so I've got my own question. What exactly is the rule with cut blocks? You can't cut block once the defensive player is engaged, right? Wouldn't you want to engage right after the snap and make some plays off the blocks? It looked to me like our linebackers were just sitting ducks for cut blocks all day.