Class of 2021 WR Marvin Harrison Jr (PA) Committed to Ohio State/Declares for the Draft

[im4cuse]

Wow nasty slam on dad’s Alma mater. We get it but don’t be an A hole about it. Props to Zaire for trying to help him not be a dick. Just show some respect.

 

[Bayside44]

Welp might be different for his brother

 

[Atlcuse44]

Yeah, he could have sounded a bit less douchey but he is not really wrong. Why would an elite WR come here with our recent history? Now, I believe that view will change quickly under Coach Fran but you can easily argue that he would not have had the same level of success if he came here instead of OSU.

 

[CuseEagle8]

Yeah, he could have sounded a bit less douchey but he is not really wrong. Why would an elite WR come here with our recent history? Now, I believe that view will change quickly under Coach Fran but you can easily argue that he would not have had the same level of success if he came here instead of OSU.

Can easily argue that he would not have had the same success here seems like an understatement. Seems impossible to argue that he would have had the same success here. No qb, no oline…. With that said, can someone explain what this is in reference to? If someone posted a video or article about him saying something bad, I must have missed it.

 

[AngryOtto]

Can easily argue that he would not have had the same success here seems like an understatement. Seems impossible to argue that he would have had the same success here. No qb, no oline…. With that said, can someone explain what this is in reference to? If someone posted a video or article about him saying something bad, I must have missed it.

Said Syracuse was not in his top 5. Talked about lack of success in getting offensive players drafted.

 

[Atlcuse44]

Can easily argue that he would not have had the same success here seems like an understatement. Seems impossible to argue that he would have had the same success here. No qb, no oline…. With that said, can someone explain what this is in reference to? If someone posted a video or article about him saying something bad, I must have missed it.

 

[javadoc]

Said Syracuse was not in his top 5. Talked about lack of success in getting offensive players drafted.

Holy chicken and egg, Batman.

 

[jr4750]

The last "Syracuse isn't going to happen," he threw in there is what really hurt. Got to love Zaire trying.

 

[tep624]

The last "Syracuse isn't going to happen," he threw in there is what really hurt. Got to love Zaire trying.

It’s funny rereading this thread and seeing what was really going on as far as his recruiting interests.

There are a number of reasons why we haven’t had much success with legacy recruits. One of the big ones was the lack of creating a really strong, active alumni presence with the program. If the parents are disconnected, it’s not hard to understand the children being as well, especially during a period when the program was down.

 

[orange79]

It's not his fault. He didn't know.






Am I doing this right?

 

[Lukeyloo]

I don't get the issue Marvin Harrison Sr seems to have with SU. I get why Jr wouldn't want to come here based on recent results, but for his answer to be what it was, it seems maybe his dad negatively influenced his view of SU. Otherwise I don't see why he would have such a strong response regarding not considering us. Does anyone know the deets - or at least the general history - with Marvin Harrison Sr and SU?

 

[money3189]

This is what some of these kids think of SU. I hear the conversations.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

You guys are too sensitive but it's the reality. it's as if 23 years of poor play with 1 REALLY good season, maybe 2 would make a 5 star recruit want to play at Syracuse. You simply can't ignore how bad it has been, legacy recruit or not. If Fran doesn't win games, he wont be able to recruit here either and he's argubaly the best in the game. You have to win games and get kids into the NFL draft, it's really not that complicated.

In addition, Syracuse will always need to recruit a bit under the radar for the vast majority of their talent, develop and retain their homegrown talent even with Fran here.

 

[Dcuse]

I don't get the issue Marvin Harrison Sr seems to have with SU. I get why Jr wouldn't want to come here based on recent results, but for his answer to be what it was, it seems maybe his dad negatively influenced his view of SU. Otherwise I don't see why he would have such a strong response regarding not considering us. Does anyone know the deets - or at least the general history - with Marvin Harrison Sr and SU?

Loved Marvin as a player but let's face it...he was a different cat. Very hard guy to figure out. Hated attention, never seemed happy and came back to Syracuse maybe once since he left and would only talk to Kyle Fetterley. Don't ever expect Marvin to help the cause of Syracuse football or anything else Syracuse.

 

[jr4750]

This is what some of these kids think of SU. I hear the converations.

Totally makes sense. We need to get to a big bowl. Even our best years, we’ve played in afterthought games. Have to prove we matter, which we certainly haven’t in a very long time.

 

[tep624]

You guys are too sensitive but it's the reality. it's as if 23 years of poor play with 1 REALLY good season, maybe 2 would make a 5 star recruit want to play at Syracuse. You simply can't ignore how bad it has been, legacy recruit or not. If Fran doesn't win games, he wont be able to recruit here either and he's argubaly the best in the game. You have to win games and get kids into the NFL draft, it's really not that complicated.

In addition, Syracuse will always need to recruit a bit under the radar for the vast majority of their talent, develop and retain their homegrown talent even with Fran here.

Although I don't disagree in theory, I do see programs all over the country that have gone through down periods that land high value legacy recruits. For example Nebraska:

2023 - 5-7
2022 - 4-8
2021 - 3-9
2020 - 3-5
2019 - 5-7
2018 - 4-8
2017 - 4-8
2016 - 9-4
2015 - 6-7
2014 - 9-4

2 Winning seasons in 10, first year under Rhule was a losing season. Located in the middle of nowhere. And they just flipped the #2 overall recruit in the 2024 class, living in GA, committed to UGA, in part because the father was a Nebraska alum. Kid never would have considered Nebraska in a million years if his dad wasn't an alum.

So you have to ask yourself - what is it that they have been doing differently that we weren't? And I think it comes back to the admin completely dropping the ball on alum relations when the program needed it the most. I mean I'm sure Nebraska dropped a massive NIL bag too, but still, that isn't everything.

 

[MikeSU02]

 

[anglerman]

Why is this put on the recruiting board??? Maybe the poster can explain that ???? Please put it on the main board ?

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Although I don't disagree in theory, I do see programs all over the country that have gone through down periods that land high value legacy recruits. For example Nebraska:

2023 - 5-7
2022 - 4-8
2021 - 3-9
2020 - 3-5
2019 - 5-7
2018 - 4-8
2017 - 4-8
2016 - 9-4
2015 - 6-7
2014 - 9-4

2 Winning seasons in 10, first year under Rhule was a losing season. Located in the middle of nowhere. And they just flipped the #2 overall recruit in the 2024 class, living in GA, committed to UGA, in part because the father was a Nebraska alum. Kid never would have considered Nebraska in a million years if his dad wasn't an alum.

So you have to ask yourself - what is it that they have been doing differently that we weren't? And I think it comes back to the admin completely dropping the ball on alum relations when the program needed it the most. I mean I'm sure Nebraska dropped a massive NIL bag too, but still, that isn't everything.

I guess, we now have the one of the best recruiters in the game we will see what he can do with these types but the program has done nothing but lose for a long time, that's the biggest problem with recruiting. If Fran can win games things will continue to improve.

as far as Nebraska, you go back 10 years not 23, go back 23 it looks a bit different and it's part of the problem if you look at recruiting and legacy types.

You can make all the comparisons you want with Syracuse and Nebraska but it's not the same. On a side note, and off topic but Lincoln is actually a really nice place. It's probably twice as big as Syracuse and has more going on than most like to give credit for. The fans also still support the program more than they do here. Rule also has a lot more cache than Fran does at this point. Rule has a pretty good track record in college. Maybe Fran will in a year or two but Dino certainly wasn't going to haul in Marv Jr.

In addition, NIL isn't everything but it's the biggest thing for most big time recruits these days, can't just gloss over it.

Just don't see the comparison between big State Schools and Syracuse ever

 

[texacuse]

I guess, we now have the one of the best recruiters in the game we will see what he can do with these types but the program has done nothing but lose for a long time, that's the biggest problem with recruiting. If Fran can win games things will continue to improve.

as far as Nebraska, you go back 10 years not 23, go back 23 it looks a bit different and it's part of the problem if you look at recruiting and legacy types.

You can make all the comparisons you want with Syracuse and Nebraska but it's not the same. On a side note, and off topic but Lincoln is actually a really nice place. It's probably twice as big as Syracuse and has more going on than most like to give credit for. The fans also still support the program more than they do here. Rule also has a lot more cache than Fran does at this point. Rule has a pretty good track record in college. Maybe Fran will in a year or two but Dino certainly wasn't going to haul in Marv Jr.

In addition, NIL isn't everything but it's the biggest thing for most big time recruits these days, can't just gloss over it.

Just don't see the comparison between big State Schools and Syracuse ever

From your post which states… “It's probably twice as big as Syracuse”, here is what Wikipedia says is the size of the larger consolidated metropolitan statistical area for Lincoln…
“Lincoln is considered the economic and cultural anchor of the substantially larger metropolitan area in southeastern Nebraska, the Lincoln Metropolitan and Lincoln-Beatrice Combined Statistical Areas, which is home to 361,921 people, the 104th-largest combined statistical area in the United States. From Wikipedia’s own 2023 estimate the population estimate is now 366,021 people.
And from Wikipedia regarding the population for Syracuse-Auburn Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area the 2023 population estimate is at 727,441 citizens.
With all due deference to the advantages of comparing each metro area, it would appear that just the Syracuse area is actually about twice the population size of your comparison between good old Syracuse and Lincoln, NE.

 

[wfschrec]

From your post which states… “It's probably twice as big as Syracuse”, here is what Wikipedia says is the size of the larger consolidated metropolitan statistical area for Lincoln…
“Lincoln is considered the economic and cultural anchor of the substantially larger metropolitan area in southeastern Nebraska, the Lincoln Metropolitan and Lincoln-Beatrice Combined Statistical Areas, which is home to 361,921 people, the 104th-largest combined statistical area in the United States. From Wikipedia’s own 2023 estimate the population estimate is now 366,021 people.
And from Wikipedia regarding the population for Syracuse-Auburn Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area the 2023 population estimate is at 727,441 citizens.
With all due deference to the advantages of comparing each metro area, it would appear that just the Syracuse area is actually about twice the population size of your comparison between good old Syracuse and Lincoln, NE.

Depends on what he means by size … according to Wikipedia Lincoln covers 100 square miles and Syracuse 25 … accounting for the “metro” areas in population counts can cause misleading results if you aren’t counting heads within city limits only.

As for other factors … NY has multiple pro sports franchises and Nebraska has none … the entire state has two things to look forward to … Nebraska football and Warren Buffett stock picks. There is far more to do and follow living in NY it isn’t even close.

 

[Orangefan1]

Jerk Jr and Jerk Sr. Funny how his dad never talks up his old school given all his NFL success

 

[OttoinGrotto]

This is only a story because people are making it into one.

 

[tep624]

Depends on what he means by size … according to Wikipedia Lincoln covers 100 square miles and Syracuse 25 … accounting for the “metro” areas in population counts can cause misleading results if you aren’t counting heads within city limits only.

As for other factors … NY has multiple pro sports franchises and Nebraska has none … the entire state has two things to look forward to … Nebraska football and Warren Buffett stock picks. There is far more to do and follow living in NY it isn’t even close.

If Lincoln covers 100 square miles, then I rest my case on being in the middle of nowhere

End of the day, we could have done much better with recruiting over the past 15-20 years if the Admin was willing to invest in the program comparable to the level of investment now, or do the work necessary to drum up this level of investment, and we could have done much better recruiting legacies had their been a coordinated effort in having a robust program for the Alumni of the football program. I'm tired of the excuses as to why things are the way they are - with Fran coming on board it's very clear we could have done better.

 

[wfschrec]

If Lincoln covers 100 square miles, then I rest my case on being in the middle of nowhere

End of the day, we could have done much better with recruiting over the past 15-20 years if the Admin was willing to invest in the program comparable to the level of investment now, or do the work necessary to drum up this level of investment, and we could have done much better recruiting legacies had their been a coordinated effort in having a robust program for the Alumni of the football program. I'm tired of the excuses as to why things are the way they are - with Fran coming on board it's very clear we could have done better.

Middle vs of nowhere that has more consecutive sellouts than most programs in the country but let’s ignore that too …

As of August 4, 2024, the University of Nebraska's Memorial Stadium has sold out 396 consecutive games, which is the longest streak in any collegiate sport