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Your starting to see Fran and his assistants get exposed for a lack

to date we have scored 213 points and surrendered 277. so you can either point the finger at the offense for not scoring enuf pt's or blame the D for giving up to many. what i do know is that we're at 1-5 ACC. and could finish last if we don't beat BC in the upcoming Battle for the Basement .
 
orange79 said:
Yeah, that's where I'm at. Puzzling and disappointing.
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My hunch is that Fran sold Nixon on coming to SU by promising that he’d have full control of the offense. And when that comes with having McCord as the QB it’s pretty damn appealing. Especially if Nixon’s goal is to land a HC spot soon.

Honestly nothing else makes sense to me.
 
It’s sad that fans have been noticing, and even some other coaches in the league about the SU play calling. I would consider that the larger failure more than put it on the players. The team has talent and needs to be properly coached and play calling adjusted.

In any case, we all know the defense has some wishy washy stuff, but it was from a prior coaching staff too, not just this one.. They just can’t tackle, but this year they can do some great stuff when motivated, especially because they know we have some offensive issues in all the games. It seems when we are considered great for offense, they suck. And when it is hard and in the trenches they perform. It really needs to be hard and in the trenches and perform all the time. There shouldn’t be a problem to not play your best at all times. While there is a concern; I’d like to know if the players were a result or end result of game planning as when the perform, vs when they really do perform. I’m pretty sure there is some lack of communications between offense and defensive coaches as well as with FRAN. Other wise we wouldn’t be so variable on our performances.

For the offense. I blame that entirely Nixon. Im sorry he just sucks as a play coach instead of adapting to players strengths and weaknesses for substitutions. How many times to we keep seeing Willis go up the middle for a bonus yard play. And by bonus, I mean anything but 1 or even, more likely negative. We keep running the same plays, no doubt the opposing has adapted and knows. And we are stupid none the less. Instead how about when we change out players we give them the opportunity to shine. Yeah that works well... They can be the scapegoats now. Let them be players, not robots, as that is what our offensive like coaches are calling plays on. Being a robot. Do this, do nothing else.

Nixon is a horrible offensive like coach in my opinion and it has shown it hands down. He cannot and will not create new plays or planning no matter substitutions or injuries. It is just lets run the same play and shift the stupid WR’s to the other side for a Willis run up the middle, and well it is everyone else’s fault for a failure, and it bothers me that Fran won't comment. He hasn’t made any improvements for any passing/OLine blocking or even running plays at all this year. We had a gift last year with McCord, but this coach (Nxon) just sucks and needs to adapt to player strengths and weaknesses, and stop calling plays from his past ego winning personal wins and start working with players than calling textbook repeated plays.
 
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Scooch said:
My hunch is that Fran sold Nixon on coming to SU by promising that he’d have full control of the offense. And when that comes with having McCord as the QB it’s pretty damn appealing. Especially if Nixon’s goal is to land a HC spot soon.

Honestly nothing else makes sense to me.
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I guess my main criticism is that Nixon seems as if he has an offense, and by God, he's going to run it. No matter who the personnel are, as opposed to tailoring an offense to fit the parts he has.
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orange79 said:
I guess my main criticism is that Nixon seems as if he has an offense, and by God, he's going to run it. No matter who the personnel are, as opposed to tailoring an offense to fit the parts he has. View attachment 256621
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He has no offense because he doesn't do anything different. He is a 'I read a book' and this is how it is going to go. We get alot of those people in colleges... They read a book, become a professor, and don't know the real world or need to work with people or can't adapt. It is apparent Nixon is that as our Orange football offensive coaching.
 
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Scooch said:
My hunch is that Fran sold Nixon on coming to SU by promising that he’d have full control of the offense. And when that comes with having McCord as the QB it’s pretty damn appealing. Especially if Nixon’s goal is to land a HC spot soon.

Honestly nothing else makes sense to me.
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fire nixon and just let fran call plays.. how worse can it get.
 
Too bad I won't be at Meier's Creek Thursday as I will be on a plane for Miami for the game as I would submit or ask a question about this.
 
David321 said:
As much as we have seen some glaring mistakes, I like to think that Fran and company will learn from all of this and slowly get better. Imagine if this lifetime position coach/ amazing recruiter also becomes a solid HC?
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I doubt it as most of them are like my way or the highway it seems...
 
Scooch said:
Seriously? We’re still doing the “how worse can it get” thing? Much worse is the answer.
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Just posting our mutual frustration on Nixon about flexible play calling, but I agree in a way. So to edit.. How many times do we need to see the same stuff in the same games all season.
 
Scooch said:
Seriously? We’re still doing the “how worse can it get” thing? Much worse is the answer.
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It’s sad that fans have been noticing, and even some other coaches in the league about the SU play calling. I would consider that the larger failure more than put it on the players. The team has talent and needs to be properly coached and play calling adjusted.

In any case, we all know the defense has some wishy washy stuff, but it was from a prior coaching staff too, not just this one.. They just can’t tackle, but this year they can do some great stuff when motivated, especially because they know we have some offensive issues in all the games. It seems when we are considered great for offense, they suck. And when it is hard and in the trenches they perform. It really needs to be hard and in the trenches and perform all the time. There shouldn’t be a problem to not play your best at all times. While there is a concern; I’d like to know if the players were a result or end result of game planning as when the perform, vs when they really do perform. I’m pretty sure there is some lack of communications between offense and defensive coaches as well as with FRAN. Other wise we wouldn’t be so variable on our performances.

For the offense. I blame that entirely Nixon. Im sorry he just sucks as a play coach instead of adapting to players strengths and weaknesses for substitutions. How many times to we keep seeing Willis go up the middle for a bonus yard play. And by bonus, I mean anything but 1 or even, more likely negative. We keep running the same plays, no doubt the opposing has adapted and knows. And we are stupid none the less. Instead how about when we change out players we give them the opportunity to shine. Yeah that works well... They can be the scapegoats now. Let them be players, not robots, as that is what our offensive like coaches are calling plays on. Being a robot. Do this, do nothing else.

Nixon is a horrible offensive like coach in my opinion and it has shown it hands down. He cannot and will not create new plays or planning no matter substitutions or injuries. It is just lets run the same play and shift the stupid WR’s to the other side for a Willis run up the middle, and well it is everyone else’s fault for a failure, and it bothers me that Fran won't comment. He hasn’t made any improvements for any passing/OLine blocking or even running plays at all this year. We had a gift last year with McCord, but this coach (Nxon) just sucks and needs to adapt to player strengths and weaknesses, and stop calling plays from his past ego winning personal wins and start working with players than calling textbook repeated plays.
 
David321 said:
As much as we have seen some glaring mistakes, I like to think that Fran and company will learn from all of this and slowly get better. Imagine if this lifetime position coach/ amazing recruiter also becomes a solid HC?
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agree, but they need to start showing it.
 
orange79 said:
I guess my main criticism is that Nixon seems as if he has an offense, and by God, he's going to run it. No matter who the personnel are, as opposed to tailoring an offense to fit the parts he has. View attachment 256621
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I get the sense that he would be happier in the NFL where the right call vs the D isn’t different that the right call for what you have to work with.
 
I am all for Nixon and his system. Having a system works well in college this is what we do and this is how we do it. Most teams have this. It worked well last year and worked well to start the season but but but if you have no pivot no other wrinkles and nothing to fall back on because that same system, then you better make sure you get the correct type of QBs in here to run that system and you better have all those QBs so familiar with the system that they can run it at anytime.

It has been 5-6 weeks since the injury, to not have one QB on the roster ready to step in and run the system correctly is the alarming part. You have to be able to teach and practice enough to have the QB run the system properly.

When you are a my system or bust OC then you can't miss on QBs ever. You have to recruit the correct type of QB every year.
 
phil77 said:
I am all for Nixon and his system. Having a system works well in college this is what we do and this is how we do it. Most teams have this. It worked well last year and worked well to start the season but but but if you have no pivot no other wrinkles and nothing to fall back on because that same system, then you better make sure you get the correct type of QBs in here to run that system and you better have all those QBs so familiar with the system that they can run it at anytime.

It has been 5-6 weeks since the injury, to not have one QB on the roster ready to step in and run the system correctly is the alarming part. You have to be able to teach and practice enough to have the QB run the system properly.

When you are a my system or bust OC then you can't miss on QBs ever. You have to recruit the correct type of QB every year.
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Thanks for a system where a QB is all the joy, but guess what... when you guess on it it breaks down at the same time you can't get some dynamic adjustment on play calling. Hello this isn't the NFL. it is College and most times peeps will only see each other 2-3 years if not less. The team does need a good QB, but it also needs a good OC where it adjusts to the team dynamic to make the best of that. Instead we are still squandering on poor play calling and trying to fit a person to the play calls, rather than adjust for it... It is as simple as that. We keep dancing around it but noone wants to say it. Nixon just sucks as a OC coach. he really doesn't know his players or he will say we have shitty players performing. I'd like to see him in a press conference versus Fran.
 
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IthacaBarrel said:
We went with a lifetime position coach who is a great recruiter who was never a coordinator. He can’t coordinate either side of the ball. It was and is a huge gamble. I just wish he hired some crusty old defensive coordinator like that Rocky dude that Dino did. When it comes to the back up QB, they should have made sure they got a kid that can throw the football even if he’s a statue. Go get some kid from some smaller program even if he’s a some D2 or a great d3 kid who has thrown for a ton of yards, probably he’s a 5th year senior and 23 years old but at least he can throw the ball and he didn’t just get his night license 2 months ago. Kid gets a masters degree and we at least have a kid that can complete a forward pass. Nixon’s offense is pass 45 times a game have a back up plan. they did not
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The crusty old DC is right there, just hire him. Maybe it's end of season. But give Don Brown the DC job, and tell ERob that he's co-coordinator and DT coach. And if that's not for him, then he needs to find another school.

I don't know what to do about offense. You have a head coach that wants to run the ball, an OC that wants to throw the ball, and without the right QB we can't do either. But I'd probably prioritize most of the money on the line of scrimmage on both sides. It's always our weak spot. Always.
 
Chip said:
The crusty old DC is right there, just hire him. Maybe it's end of season. But give Don Brown the DC job, and tell ERob that he's co-coordinator and DT coach. And if that's not for him, then he needs to find another school.

I don't know what to do about offense. You have a head coach that wants to run the ball, an OC that wants to throw the ball, and without the right QB we can't do either. But I'd probably prioritize most of the money on the line of scrimmage on both sides. It's always our weak spot. Always.
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Aye, I dont know how many times you can run the same play and same line up where it is blatent that Willis is running up the middle. and it is 1-2 years or more like -2.
 
Offthedome said:
Great point. D2 guy who would be satisfied to get one year in a P4 program for the experience and atmosphere and possible chance to play if an injury occurs to QB1. Kind of kid who will work hard in the system and be a grinder. Would have to be a special kind of person, but they are out there.
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You mean like Trinidad Chambliss, Cam Ward, or a Diego Pavia? There are guys like that to be had if we are paying attention.
 
Chip said:
The crusty old DC is right there, just hire him. Maybe it's end of season. But give Don Brown the DC job, and tell ERob that he's co-coordinator and DT coach. And if that's not for him, then he needs to find another school.

I don't know what to do about offense. You have a head coach that wants to run the ball, an OC that wants to throw the ball, and without the right QB we can't do either. But I'd probably prioritize most of the money on the line of scrimmage on both sides. It's always our weak spot. Always.
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Agreed on defense. Kind of have to wait and see what Nixon does. I do agree with others that Fran and Nixon don’t see to be on same page and something just doesn’t seem right there. At a minimum they need a new online coach and a back up qb that can run Nixon’s offense. They will have to get creative there but that’s their job not mine. Don’t need a superstar but passing ability is obviously needed. A starter from a much smaller program (d2 type) who wouldn’t mind coming to Syracuse for a year, or two get a masters degree and maybe play a few games maybe not. Don’t know
 

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