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1000x like If that happens, we should change leagues to the Atlantic division of the NBAWe still have 1 open scholarship even if White commits. Just sayin'.
1000x like If that happens, we should change leagues to the Atlantic division of the NBA
Sorry, but this just came across as funny: "He told another, in front of the team, he should transfer to a “transgender league,” multiple players said."
Obviously this coach deserves due process like anyone else, but I feel like it's extremely unlikely that these players would make this up.
He had no trouble whatsoever at Catholic University here in DC when he was coach for quite a few years.
The players aren't making things up. The question in my mind is how thin-skinned these players are. Could this be the logical extension of the "everybody gets a trophy" upbringing of today's players at this level?
If I don't like someone or if someone is making me do more than I want to do, I might be a little more offended at a less-than-PC comment. Especially if I am looking for a reason to get the guy.
I am reminded of the quote from long-time Princeton coach, Pate Carroll. It was something like "I never recruit kids from houses with three car garages. I look for kids who live in houses with no garages. And I never recruit from schools with "Country Day" in their name."
Pete was looking for toughness.
Sorry, but this just came across as funny: "He told another, in front of the team, he should transfer to a “transgender league,” multiple players said."
He had no trouble whatsoever at Catholic University here in DC when he was coach for quite a few years.
The players aren't making things up. The question in my mind is how thin-skinned these players are. Could this be the logical extension of the "everybody gets a trophy" upbringing of today's players at this level?
If I don't like someone or if someone is making me do more than I want to do, I might be a little more offended at a less-than-PC comment. Especially if I am looking for a reason to get the guy.
I am reminded of the quote from long-time Princeton coach, Pate Carroll. It was something like "I never recruit kids from houses with three car garages. I look for kids who live in houses with no garages. And I never recruit from schools with "Country Day" in their name."
Pete was looking for toughness.
Really? How outside of normal human behavior? Are you new to earth? First, we've been killing each other since day one. Second(actually, this is WAY down the list, but in the interest of time...) any man over the age of 40 who played a sport in high school or higher has probably heard worse from a coach at some point. When I was in high school, that line would have been an instant classic. Times change, I guess, but coaches have always used emasculating slurs to encourage toughness in their players.OrangeTarheel said:It's funny that he doesn't have any clue how wildly hurtful and inappropriate that is ... some of these young kids are coming to college from great homes but some come seeking role models and mentors (whether they know it or not.) To demonstrate to a young person that it is ok to act that way makes me laugh also ... but only b/c I can't believe HOW outside of normal human behavior that is.
Townie, if I remember correctly, you were the only person on the board to defend Mike Rice at Rutgers during his horribleness. Do you still feel that way?
Cause it is funny. Sorry if not PC, but its not a slur..at least he is using appropriate terminology.
Sorry. You are off-base. I certainly cannot remember defending Mike Rice nor would I ever be prone to do that.
I just found the thread. Your words:
"The guy was trying to motivate these guys. No one even got hurt ... maybe some feelings were hurt."
"Ohhh, the horror. Ohhh the horror. How could people withstand such cruelty? Coaches shouldn't behave like this. What if one of these players actually was gay? What about their FEELINGS? That about gets it, right? As I said way back when ... A nation of sissies."
"I think the reaction to the videos was overblown. Much as I thought the reaction to the Imus comments about the RU women's basketball team were overblown."
In your defense, later in the thread you said "Rice used poor judgement. I don't think his actions were particularly motivational."
My only comment on the Mike Rice situation.
After seeing this I am shocked that Mystery Man did not leave and go elsewhere if not SU.
He had no trouble whatsoever at Catholic University here in DC when he was coach for quite a few years.
The players aren't making things up. The question in my mind is how thin-skinned these players are. Could this be the logical extension of the "everybody gets a trophy" upbringing of today's players at this level?
If I don't like someone or if someone is making me do more than I want to do, I might be a little more offended at a less-than-PC comment. Especially if I am looking for a reason to get the guy.
I am reminded of the quote from long-time Princeton coach, Pate Carroll. It was something like "I never recruit kids from houses with three car garages. I look for kids who live in houses with no garages. And I never recruit from schools with "Country Day" in their name."
Pete was looking for toughness.
In some ways it doesn't matter. You don't have to fire him because he was bullying the players or using inappropriate language, although that might help with the buy-out. You fire him because he seems to have lost his locker room to a degree and there appears to be quite a bit of discord between Lonergan and Athletic Department Senior Staff.
GW doesn't have football, so this is their primary most high profile sport in terms of trying to rally alumni support etc.. I think they have to be careful not to allow a cancer to fester within the athletic department and not abide any sort of public embarassment that is clearly going to come out of airing lots of dirty laundry. One of the coach's jobs is to be in control of his roster. If he is recruiting lots of guys he can't control either because they don't go to classes, are out running amok and getting arrested or just taking ugly allegations public (as is minimally the case here) he's not doing his job as effectively as he needs to be.