Potential OL

[rrlbees]

It’s essentially three new players, how is that the same? Swap in More and/or Miller.

more of the same would be Cruz, Cruz, Reed, Bradford, and Petry

More of the same as far as moving the needle.

 

[money3189]

Size and age. Their are heath concerns with some here

Cruz Jr , 6/6 311 Jr; Ellis, 6/6 375, Jr; Reed, 6/3 315 Sr; Weatherspoon, 6/7 335, Jr; Wohlabaugh, 6/6 315

Dont get too caught up on size. I would ride with a guy like Petry all day. He's a fighter. Im happy to have him back if not as a starter but aa a quality back up that can play different spots.

 

[GoSU96]

Dont get too caught up on size. I would ride with a guy like Petry all day. He's a fighter. Im happy to have him back if not as a starter but aa a quality back up that can play different spots.

It was just one approach where that was one way to sort it. If I wanted to get crazy I would have put 6-6 360 Moeolo and 6/5 330 Goodacre in there

My take is that every spot is open. What they aren’t forced to do is play returners because that’s all they have.

I look at the situation is that between the guys that were hurt almost all year, Ellis, More, Wohlabaugh, the redshirts, Mack and Bass, the transfers Weatherspoon, Miller, and freshmen, Goodacre and Rosahac that there are nine “new” players from last years OL. All of them are at least 6/4 and 300, other than Rosahac who is 6/5 285. That’s 9 guys that bring legit size if nothing else.

If I was going to put a real guess as of today, ECruz, Miller, Reed, Weatherspoon, Wohlabaugh

More, Ellis, Ilaoa, JCruz, Petry - 2nd.

 

[hoopsupstate]

The offensive line is the key. We’ve struggled the past couple of years due to poor line play. If we can’t block for our QB, you can’t win. If we can’t establish a sound running game, we can’t win. Bottom line is our line has to be significantly better than what it’s been.

 

[LAOrange]

I remember one year Dino said he had to bring in the 2nd string DL duriing preseason practice because 1st string was too good to block. I thought that was weird and more of an omen for the OL that year.

I hadn't heard that. That's sad... and it also explains a lot.

 

[money3189]

It was just one approach where that was one way to sort it. If I wanted to get crazy I would have put 6-6 360 Moeolo and 6/5 330 Goodacre in there

My take is that every spot is open. What they aren’t forced to do is play returners because that’s all they have.

I look at the situation is that between the guys that were hurt almost all year, Ellis, More, Wohlabaugh, the redshirts, Mack and Bass, the transfers Weatherspoon, Miller, and freshmen, Goodacre and Rosahac that are “new” from last years OL. All of them are at least 6/4 and 300, other than Rosahac who is 6/5 285. That’s 9 guys that bring legit size if nothing else.

If I was going to put a real guess as of today, ECruz, Miller, Reed, Weatherspoon, Wohlabaugh

More, Ellis, Ilaoa, JCruz, Petry - 2nd.

OK. Gotcha. Makes sense

 

[Wrinkle]

I remember one year Dino said he had to bring in the 2nd string DL duriing preseason practice because 1st string was too good to block. I thought that was weird and more of an omen for the OL that year.

That is insane

 

[money3189]

That is insane

It was the 2020 covid season. It was worse than you can imagine. Its amazing the offense look as good as it did vs UNC. Teams starting feasting when they got more film.

 

[Wrinkle]

It was the 2020 covid season. It was worse then you can imagine. Its amazing the offense look as good as it did vs UNC. Teams starting feasting when they got more film.

That was the worst offense I've ever seen put on a football field. No exaggeration. What a dreadful team

 

[RF2044]

It was the 2020 covid season. It was worse then you can imagine. Its amazing the offense look as good as it did vs UNC. Teams starting feasting when they got more film.

We had a converted FB playing OG [and he did ok, but still].

Still hurts to think about...

 

[0.2 YNdeeR]

Size-wise (just one factor) we match up. Here are UNC's and Clemson's OL's (depth charts from 2023):
[Edit: FSU's values are similar}

Left Tackle
61 - Diego Pounds (6-6, 330, So.)
76 - William Barnes (6-4, 320, Sr.)
Left Guard
63 - Ed Montilus (6-3, 315, Gr.)
64 - Malik McGowan (6-4, 320, Jr.)
Center
53 - Willie Lampkin (5-11, 290, Jr.)
54 - Chance Carroll (6-2, 295, Jr.)
Right Guard
76 - William Barnes (6-4, 320, Sr.)
52 - Jonathan Adorno (6-4, 315, Sr.)
Right Tackle
75 - Spencer Rolland (6-6, 315, Gr.)
78 - Trevyon Green (6-8, 340, Fr.)

Clemson

LEFT TACKLE​

• #71 Tristan Leigh, R-So, 6’6″, 315
• or #50 Collin Sadler, R-Fr, 6’6″, 325

LEFT GUARD​

• #74 Marcus Tate, Jr, 6’5″. 325
• #75 Trent Howard, R-Jr, 6’3″, 295
• #59 Dietrick Pennington, R-So, 6’5″, 340

CENTER​

• #56 Will Putnam, Gr, 6’4″, 315
• #53 Ryan Linthicum, R-So, 6’3″, 305
• or #75 Trent Howard, R-Jr, 6’3″, 295

RIGHT GUARD​

• #64 Walker Parks, Sr, 6’5″, 315
• #77 Mitchell Mayes, Sr, 6’3″, 315
• #55 Harris Sewell, Fr, 6’4″, 315

RIGHT TACKLE​

• #78 Blake Miller, So 6’6″, 315
• #77 Mitchell Mayes, Sr, 6’3″, 315
• #76 John Williams, R-Jr, 6’4″, 305

 

[Dcuse]

That was the worst offense I've ever seen put on a football field. No exaggeration. What a dreadful team

You obviously weren't around for Greg Robinson/Brian Pariani.

 

[orangencpolice]

You obviously weren't around for Greg Robinson/Brian Pariani.

Yeah. That was bad. Embarrassing bad.

 

[GoSU96]

Size-wise (just one factor) we match up. Here are UNC's and Clemson's OL's (depth charts from 2023):
UNC
Left Tackle
61 - Diego Pounds (6-6, 330, So.)
76 - William Barnes (6-4, 320, Sr.)
Left Guard
63 - Ed Montilus (6-3, 315, Gr.)
64 - Malik McGowan (6-4, 320, Jr.)
Center
53 - Willie Lampkin (5-11, 290, Jr.)
54 - Chance Carroll (6-2, 295, Jr.)
Right Guard
76 - William Barnes (6-4, 320, Sr.)
52 - Jonathan Adorno (6-4, 315, Sr.)
Right Tackle
75 - Spencer Rolland (6-6, 315, Gr.)
78 - Trevyon Green (6-8, 340, Fr.)

Clemson

LEFT TACKLE​

• #71 Tristan Leigh, R-So, 6’6″, 315
• or #50 Collin Sadler, R-Fr, 6’6″, 325

LEFT GUARD​

• #74 Marcus Tate, Jr, 6’5″. 325
• #75 Trent Howard, R-Jr, 6’3″, 295
• #59 Dietrick Pennington, R-So, 6’5″, 340

CENTER​

• #56 Will Putnam, Gr, 6’4″, 315
• #53 Ryan Linthicum, R-So, 6’3″, 305
• or #75 Trent Howard, R-Jr, 6’3″, 295

RIGHT GUARD​

• #64 Walker Parks, Sr, 6’5″, 315
• #77 Mitchell Mayes, Sr, 6’3″, 315
• #55 Harris Sewell, Fr, 6’4″, 315

RIGHT TACKLE​

• #78 Blake Miller, So 6’6″, 315
• #77 Mitchell Mayes, Sr, 6’3″, 315
• #76 John Williams, R-Jr, 6’4″, 305

If the focus is on size SU fits with these two. Can’t address strength, flexibility, mobility, skill, but SU is not undersized compared to those two

 

[cusefan88]

Would love to see Enrique work at Guard as well (if he hasn't already). Just to see if his athleticism could make him a difference maker there and a Mauler on the interior.

 

[money3189]

We had a converted FB playing OG [and he did ok, but still].

Still hurts to think about...

He did the best he could. Practices were a disaster

 

[Yeti]

I remember one year Dino said he had to bring in the 2nd string DL duriing preseason practice because 1st string was too good to block. I thought that was weird and more of an omen for the OL that year.

TBF i'd believe it if it was the Alton Robinson/Kendall Coleman year.

Edit: nvm i've caught up. It wasn't that year.

 

[PhatOrange]

We had a converted FB playing OG [and he did ok, but still].

Still hurts to think about...

I will never blame HCDB for what he had to deal with during covid. NY health dept rules and regulations were on another level compared to most of our schedule.

 

[Wrinkle]

You obviously weren't around for Greg Robinson/Brian Pariani.

I was and I stand by it

 

[BKCuse]

I remember one year Dino said he had to bring in the 2nd string DL duriing preseason practice because 1st string was too good to block. I thought that was weird and more of an omen for the OL that year.

I forgot about that one. but iI remember he said it and I believed it him.
Oh well