I liked his comment...because Marrone left at the first opportunity.Marrone is a very good coach, there is no debating that. I mean, c'mon. Just look at what he did in his 2nd season with a batch of misfits.
Marrone hated recruiting and having to "baby" the kids. You can call him on those things, but please don't critique his coaching and game preparation skills.
^^^^ This...and not any other answer folks...love the fandom and think/hope HCDB is the guy to do it but it is bad business to even consider extending 5 games into the guys first year...especially for some of the durations mentioned...help make him enjoy Syracuse in other ways, give him some perks and let's see how things go...the new AD should have some criteria and things he will measure Dino and his staff by...if he is on the right trajectory...the AD and Chancellor will make sure he is taken care of...until that time...let's see progress each week...go Cuse!A six year deal is fine.
I would not extend.
I love the guy - I enjoy his press conferences. He inspires confidence and seems to have a plan.
It seems that the players like him.
I am hopeful that he will recruit well.
But, I am always hesitant to hail the next great coach after a very short experience.
Weiss. Outweighs. I get it.:rolling:The reward far outweighs the risk. They guy gets it.
^^^^ This...and not any other answer folks...love the fandom and think/hope HCDB is the guy to do it but it is bad business to even consider extending 5 games into the guys first year...especially for some of the durations mentioned...help make him enjoy Syracuse in other ways, give him some perks and let's see how things go...the new AD should have some criteria and things he will measure Dino and his staff by...if he is on the right trajectory...the AD and Chancellor will make sure he is taken care of...until that time...let's see progress each week...go Cuse!
Not saying you're wrong about his quality as a HC, but that year's schedule was as soft as we've had in a very long time.
I liked his comment...because Marrone left at the first opportunity.
It's his opinion.The comment was stupid
I disagree with this. NFL players don't like him. He treats them like kids. He's a better fit for college, imo. Then again, I don't think he's cut out to be a head coach anywhere aside from maybe the D3 level where the pressure is much less and marketability isn't required.Doug belongs in the nfl or if college a destination school that doesn't have a problem recruiting.
No it wasn't
I don't want to rehash the Marrone debate since that horse was beaten to death, reincarnated and beaten to death again more times than I care to remember. But Marrone was a terrible game day coach... yes he got his guys ready to play but when things went south during a game he made very few adjustments and he was terrible at game management. I will give him all the credit in the world for a) hiring Shafer as his DC as he was more responsible for any success the program had in Marrone's first three years than anything Marrone and his offense did and b) Marrone's players never quit on him. I will also concede that Marrone's last year was the most fun I've had watching Syracuse football in the last 15 years (before this one). But he then took any fun and hope that came from that season and put lighter fluid and a blow torch to it. The biggest indictment of Marrone is the mess that he left behind when he left which Shafer only made worse as a head coach. Now here we are trying to clean up the mess that Marrone started and Shafer completed.Marrone is a very good coach, there is no debating that. I mean, c'mon. Just look at what he did in his 2nd season with a batch of misfits.
Marrone hated recruiting and having to "baby" the kids. You can call him on those things, but please don't critique his coaching and game preparation skills.
As amazing as this might seem to you and many others here , Doug still liked by many SU fans and alumni and every time you start on this venting of your personal feelings it divides the fan base and hurts the current efforts .I don't want to rehash the Marrone debate since that horse was beaten to death, reincarnated and beaten to death again more times than I care to remember. But Marrone was a terrible game day coach... yes he got his guys ready to play but when things went south during a game he made very few adjustments and he was terrible at game management. I will give him all the credit in the world for a) hiring Shafer as his DC as he was more responsible for any success the program had in Marrone's first three years than anything Marrone and his offense did and b) Marrone's players never quit on him. I will also concede that Marrone's last year was the most fun I've had watching Syracuse football in the last 15 years (before this one). But he then took any fun and hope that came from that season and put lighter fluid and a blow torch to it. The biggest indictment of Marrone is the mess that he left behind when he left which Shafer only made worse as a head coach. Now here we are trying to clean up the mess that Marrone started and Shafer completed.
I also stand by my statement that Marrone sucked all the life and fun out of football with his miserable and arrogant attitude both at Syracuse and Buffalo. I will never ever support a team with him as head coach again unless he makes a Tom Coughlin or Terry Collins like 180 in his coaching style and his personality. The last words I will say about Marrone will be a direct quote from him that I believe epitomizes everything I can't stand about him: "Saint Doug"
Biggest question on Marrone which we will never know the answer too, is what would he have done in 2013 after losing Nassib, Pugh, Lemon and Sales.. His recruiting was getting better as we lost some key guys once he left. Doug is/was a good coach, I don't think there is much debate there. People get wrapped up in his personality but most coaches are thin skinned edgey . . . . . s because of what the job entails these days and working under a microscope.
I liked Doug and still do, he was good for SU when he was here. He has some really really nice wins when he was here and I always felt like we had a puncher's chance in every game, He had some great game plans when he was here and two bowl wins., and as many have said the end of the year in 2012 was about as good as it has gotten here in 15 years, easily. He came here with the best intentions burned out on the reality of what was in front of him and probably wasn't happy on a few empty promises. Two way street
As amazing as this might seem to you and many others here , Doug still liked by many SU fans and alumni and every time you start on this venting of your personal feelings it divides the fan base and hurts the current efforts .
As amazing as this might seem to you and many others here , Doug still liked by many SU fans and alumni and every time you start on this venting of your personal feelings it divides the fan base and hurts the current efforts .
Biggest question on Marrone which we will never know the answer too, is what would he have done in 2013 after losing Nassib, Pugh, Lemon and Sales.. His recruiting was getting better as we lost some key guys once he left. Doug is/was a good coach, I don't think there is much debate there. People get wrapped up in his personality but most coaches are thin skinned edgey . . . . . s because of what the job entails these days and working under a microscope.
I liked Doug and still do, he was good for SU when he was here. He had some really really nice wins when he was here and I always felt like we had a puncher's chance in every game, He had some great game plans when he was here and two bowl wins., and as many have said the end of the year in 2012 was about as good as it has gotten here in 15 years, easily. He came here with the best intentions burned out on the reality of what was in front of him and probably wasn't happy on a few empty promises. Two way street. Not saying Doug is a saint or perfect but I liked him and wish he never left for the most part
:noidea:He is liked. I like him. I think he's a good coach. That does not mean he's above reproach or we shouldn't look at his time here with clear eyes.
Arguing over sports on a message board isn't dividing anything. We agree and disagree on a thousand things. Wanting Syracuse football to win again is the thing that we all agree on.
He made us competitive again. We never found out if he could have made us really good. And he bugged out just as we were joining the ACC.
Do you really think that OrangeFoo (no offense) has the power to divide the fanbase with his opinion on Marrone? I must unmask this OrangeFoo to find out who he/she really is.As amazing as this might seem to you and many others here , Doug still liked by many SU fans and alumni and every time you start on this venting of your personal feelings it divides the fan base and hurts the current efforts .
Yes . First he/she says lets not beat a multiple time beaten dead horse then beats him again . There is a whole can of worms there that can just be left alone . This thread was about extending Dino , Doug got the door slammed in his face because he asked for raises for his assistants so they would make half as much as assistants make at the big schools .Do you really think that OrangeFoo (no offense) has the power to divide the fanbase with his opinion on Marrone? I must unmask this OrangeFoo to find out who he/she really is.
I was talking about OrangeFoo dividing the SU fan base. Do you really see the impact of OrangeFoo across the totality of the SU fan base? That would be some serious power.Yes . First he/she says lets not beat a multiple time beaten dead horse then beats him again . There is a whole can of worms there that can just be left alone . This thread was about extending Dino , Doug got the door slammed in his face because he asked for raises for his assistants so they would make half as much as assistants make at the big schools .