I would more than love for a kid like Kamara to come to Syracuse Offering first holds little influence on these kind of kids who know that they will be "offered by many schools. Its all part of the entitlement process. they go through once they end their season and the real game begins. which doesn't end in their minds until draft day for the NFL. Not many regard acdemic achiement and opportunity equally to the chance to get huge $ from the professional sport they play.
What does Ebenezer getting offers have to do with our chances? He has been up here numerous times, has many friends on the team, and wants to play with Gus Edwards, who we also have a terrific shot of landing. Some kids from up north don't want to go south to play football. Maybe he's one of them. Recruiting isn't always about winning and losing. It's about building connections, and Doug has done a great job of building one here.
I sure hope you are right, as I must say even though it is early, we seem to be having quite a different strategy in recruiting than what was being said last year. Again, I have mixed feelings on getting JUCO transfers, as it is guaranteed short term, plus they have to fit and learn a new system. I'm going back to another earlier thread, can't believe that a school of Syracuse's magnitude, and I have lived all over the country now, with a very strong base, and strong media ties and academic program, that we can't seem to turn the corner. There is absolutely no reason in my mind why we shouldn't be near the top in recruiting in the Big East, period. At the end of the Pasquloni Era with SU, we began a spiral downward in recruiting which we have yet to recover from. I am just talking recruiting guys, not the big picture. And as for NY dominance, I will believe that when we are pulling in the J. Jones, Ishaq Williams and potentially the high escilian players out of the state of NY like Smith, Laviano or Officer along with a huge contingent of good NY and NYC talent. Lets keep the talent home and if some of you guys are right about these kids from NYC, we can be OK this recruiting year, but I beleieve I speak for many, OK is not good enough. Top 30 each year is where this program needs to be if we expect a full turn around in the program.
Kamara, to me at least, is that bigger fish we just seem to get a little tease on each year, but can't get one to bite. He is the type player I would like to see head up our class each and every year.
With respect to number 4,Doug has zero faith in the star system. I would suggest to him that the top programs manage to secure the players with the highest number of stars . Those players do NOT have to be "coached up!" Lets see how much difference a Ron Thompson makes at TE as opposed to another kid named Addazio.
Albeit, the star system is what it is, there is still value in it, as you don't get highly rated by one person. Again, that doesn't compute to on campus and academic ability whether or not you have starts or not, remember the Dr Suess Story on this one, but in the case of Thompson, arguably our best recruit from last season, DM may be shown the light some if he performs as expected.With respect to number 4,Doug has zero faith in the star system. I would suggest to him that the top programs manage to secure the players with the highest number of stars . Those players do NOT have to be "coached up!" Lets see how much difference a Ron Thompson makes at TE as opposed to another kid named Addazio.
rutgers class was in place prior to flood---coaching staff still there except schiano
Please stop doing this.
I would suggest to you that the rivals/scout school sites that get the most subscribers get the players with the highest number of stars.With respect to number 4,Doug has zero faith in the star system. I would suggest to him that the top programs manage to secure the players with the highest number of stars . Those players do NOT have to be "coached up!" Lets see how much difference a Ron Thompson makes at TE as opposed to another kid named Addazio.
I like it but it did have some holes in it. Again, we are 2 short for a couple of different reasons, so who knows, he may be on to something, we won't know until they play a couple of years to see how it all turns out. This class for the most part is a class that needs to be developed, so it will be in the ACC when we see how good they turn out. I am not sold that this is the type class that makes us a contender, but I would buy the ticket and will any way. A power house program in Upstate NY would mean alot for the regional area as well besides the Wins and Losses Column.
While I like the optimism, "Having a shot" is no where near enough. Until they become oOrangemen and assigned uniform numbers its all conjecture at best.:crazy:
Point taken, but how many outside factors are there? Let's see that overlaid with where these kids went to school because there is a big difference between the development of kids at Alabama compared to SU. Plus all you're going with is draft picks, how many of the five stars are busts once they get to the pros and size and speed are no longer a huge factor?
