2019 Yankees Thread...

[Hoo's That]

I've been watching baseball "for a few years". I. Have. Never. Seen. Anything. Like. That. Before.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Toga]

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George Costanza

 

[Hoo's That]

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Someone interpret this for me, please. Is Rupert criticizing Cashman for not getting Greinke who has a "no-trade-to-the-Yankees" clause in his contract or what am I missing?

 

[JeremyCuse]

Yankees' Talks For Robbie Ray Reportedly Stalled

7:35PM: The Yankees were willing to give up Clint Frazier and another prospect for Ray, USA Today's Bob Nightengale tweets, …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

No wonder we didn't make a deal. Arizona wanted a 4 player package for Robbie Ray. Did he suddenly morph into Randy Johnson in his prime?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Someone interpret this for me, please. Is Rupert criticizing Cashman for not getting Greinke who has a "no-trade-to-the-Yankees" clause in his contract or what am I missing?

He is criticizing Cashman for doing nothing.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

'Unique Deadline': Yanks quiet, but comfortable

NEW YORK -- The text messages continued to ping on Brian Cashman's phone into Wednesday's Trade Deadline, a flood of short-hand proposals wrapped in blue or green digital bubbles. One by one, the Yankees general manager shook his head, volleying counterproposals to colleagues that went...

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Cashman was asked if he regrets not pursuing Patrick Corbin and Dallas Keuchel more feverishly when both starters were free agents.

"If you turn the clock back to Corbin, there’s a lot of guys sitting in that locker room that wouldn’t be here, because all that money would have gone in one direction," Cashman said. "It’s all inter-related. … We repackaged that money and produced various assets like DJ LeMahieu and [Adam Ottavino], amongst others. That might not have materialized if we went all in on one particular player."

 

[jncuse]

Yankees' Talks For Robbie Ray Reportedly Stalled

7:35PM: The Yankees were willing to give up Clint Frazier and another prospect for Ray, USA Today's Bob Nightengale tweets, …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

No wonder we didn't make a deal. Arizona wanted a 4 player package for Robbie Ray. Did he suddenly morph into Randy Johnson in his prime?

I guess it depends on the other 3 players. Not all 5 player packages are alike. They may have asked for 2 good prospects, and when they could not get get that asked for 1 good + 3 low end prospects.

The Yankees them makes themselves look better by leaking a 4 player offer. But that doesn't really mean anything by itself.

The Orioles got 5 pieces for Manny Machado last year. but IIRC none were top 10 Dodger prospects.

 

[Alsacs]

'Unique Deadline': Yanks quiet, but comfortable

NEW YORK -- The text messages continued to ping on Brian Cashman's phone into Wednesday's Trade Deadline, a flood of short-hand proposals wrapped in blue or green digital bubbles. One by one, the Yankees general manager shook his head, volleying counterproposals to colleagues that went...

www.mlb.com

Cashman was asked if he regrets not pursuing Patrick Corbin and Dallas Keuchel more feverishly when both starters were free agents.

"If you turn the clock back to Corbin, there’s a lot of guys sitting in that locker room that wouldn’t be here, because all that money would have gone in one direction," Cashman said. "It’s all inter-related. … We repackaged that money and produced various assets like DJ LeMahieu and [Adam Ottavino], amongst others. That might not have materialized if we went all in on one particular player."

The Ellisbury money is killing the Yankees. If their owners don’t want to go over a certain number those 23 million from Ellsbury are killing them.

Beyond Ellsbury the Yankees spending is being used smart.

 

[Toga]

Yankees' Talks For Robbie Ray Reportedly Stalled

7:35PM: The Yankees were willing to give up Clint Frazier and another prospect for Ray, USA Today's Bob Nightengale tweets, …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

No wonder we didn't make a deal. Arizona wanted a 4 player package for Robbie Ray. Did he suddenly morph into Randy Johnson in his prime?

It was hard to warm up to the Big Unit even when wearing Pinstripes.

 

[Alsacs]

Yankees' Talks For Robbie Ray Reportedly Stalled

7:35PM: The Yankees were willing to give up Clint Frazier and another prospect for Ray, USA Today's Bob Nightengale tweets, …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

No wonder we didn't make a deal. Arizona wanted a 4 player package for Robbie Ray. Did he suddenly morph into Randy Johnson in his prime?

Depends on if they were A ball players or were top 10 prospects.
I wouldn’t have traded Frazier for Ray straight up though. Cashman would have done it for Frazier and one prospect it appears.

 

[JeremyCuse]

I guess it depends on the other 3 players. Not all 5 player packages are alike. They may have asked for 2 good prospects, and when they could not get get that asked for 1 good + 3 low end prospects.

The Yankees them makes themselves look better by leaking a 4 player offer. But that doesn't really mean anything by itself.

The Orioles got 5 pieces for Manny Machado last year. but IIRC none were top 10 Dodger prospects.

They wanted Frazier and Schmidt to start, plus 2 more. For Robbie Ray Ray thats insane.

 

[Shark58]

 

[STEVEHOLT]

They wanted Frazier and Schmidt to start, plus 2 more. For Robbie Ray Ray thats insane.

If Frazier were traded , and the pitcher that he brought back was helpful in winnning the would series , would it be worth it ?

 

[donniesyracuse]

Chapmans act is getting old quick.

Plus he choked a girl, allegedly.

 

[Shawn91111]

Garcia has been getting roughed up in AAA lately. Still give him time obviously, especially with the type of ball that they use.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Why do we never get DLsbury status updates??

Seriously.

The Yankees must’ve told him to just go away, don’t come back, and look for the monthly check.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Why do we never get DLsbury status updates??

Seriously.

The Yankees must’ve told him to just go away, don’t come back, and look for the monthly check.

Him and Bird are on one of the dozens of lakes in the adirondacks drinking beer and reliving the glory days. Ellsbury hasnt played in 2 years because of God knows what. Guys with compound leg fractures and TJ have made it back faster.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Him and Bird are on one of the dozens of lakes in the adirondacks drinking beer and reliving the glory days. Ellsbury hasnt played in 2 years because of God knows what. Guys with compound leg fractures and TJ have made it back faster.

Exactly.

Him not resuming baseball activities is like me not resuming long distance running activities.

But no one was paying me to run, so I said fluck it..,and I order 2 dozen wings, a pizza and down 10 Drinks a night because no one tells me I can’t.

What’s his excuse??!

What the fluck is going on??

If he can at least be healthy, let’s eat 50-75% of what’s left of the contract next year and ship him off.

 

[Chip]

Someone interpret this for me, please. Is Rupert criticizing Cashman for not getting Greinke who has a "no-trade-to-the-Yankees" clause in his contract or what am I missing?

Yes, that's what he's doing. It's easy to make a headline out of it, instead of thinking it thru. That wouldn't sell quite as well.

 

[Fly Rodder]

If he can at least be healthy, let’s eat 50-75% of what’s left of the contract next year and ship him off.

My guess, and this is just a guess, is that Ellsbury can't play baseball again because of his hip. And because he's injured, the Yankees are collecting insurance against his salary. If Ellsbury retires, he forfeits his remaining salary - which he won't do because why would anyone do that? If the Yankees release him, he gets the remainder of his salary but the Yankees no longer receive the insurance payments.

So, by keeping him on the IL indefinitely, the Yankees and Ellsbury are basically committing technically legal insurance fraud. He's injured, and he may play again, but he probably won't and this just keeps the scam running.

Beyond Ellsbury the Yankees spending is being used smart.

I don't know, they're spending an awful lot of money on guys that can be easily replaced. They're spending $62m on Happ, Chapman, Britton, Gardner, and CC. Outside of Mo, there isn't a closer or reliever in baseball that should be making more than $10m/year. Billy Beane has that part figured out, bring in some failed starters make them a closer let them rack up some saves and then trade them. On a per year basis, Happ is making only $6m less than Corbin is, and Happ is garbage not pitching well at all. The Yankees don't have a starter with a FIP under 4.2 in their rotation. They're paying CC and Gardner a fair amount of money to basically be leaders in the clubhouse. Spend money on stud starters, power-hitting infielders, catchers, and CFers.

They're getting great production from no-name guys like Tauchman, Maybin, Urshela and German. That's why the injuries aren't hurting them.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I never knew Happ was pregnant.

 

[PoppyHart]

I never knew Happ was pregnant.

He gets drilled every 5 days like clockwork.