2022 Mets thread

[STEVEHOLT]

That would be the ultimate you to the other owners. LOL. The funny part is that, it wouldn’t be that bad of a move luxury tax wise after next season because Mets have soooo much coming off their books end of next season including Max and Verlander. I think Marte and Canha could also be off the books. Is it that nuts to sign the Correa for big aav now, pay the tax for two years while acquiring and developing cheap talent for two years so that they don’t need to sign big name free agents?

The question is does signing Correa take them out of the Ohtani sweepstakes next year and also make it harder to reup Alonso and McNeil.

I admire any owner willing to spend whatever it takes. Everyone complaining about Cohen should be redirecting their energy to the As, Tampa , pirates… and the like

 

[sutomcat]

Okay. The Mets sign a free agent catcher who hits left handed and is surprisingly good.

Omar Narváez

Why? With Alvarez, McCann and Nido, the Mets already had 3 MLB level catchers.

The feeling is that the Mets are planning on keeping Alvarez in Syracuse for at least a while. I doubt the Mets keep 3 catchers, so I am thinking it also paves the way for trading McCann. Narvaez hits left handed and we might well see a platoon at catcher with Narvaez and Nido.

Hoping the Mets do not trade Carrasco. Might add one more established relief pitcher and I think it is a given that they add a fourth outfielder. Sounds like they want someone who can play center field well.

 

[OrangeFoo]

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Okay. The Mets sign a free agent catcher who hits left handed and is surprisingly good.

Omar Narváez

Why? With Alvarez, McCann and Nido, the Mets already had 3 MLB level catchers.

The feeling is that the Mets are planning on keeping Alvarez in Syracuse for at least a while. I doubt the Mets keep 3 catchers, so I am thinking it also paves the way for trading McCann. Narvaez hits left handed and we might well see a platoon at catcher with Narvaez and Nido.

Hoping the Mets do not trade Carrasco. Might add one more established relief pitcher and I think it is a given that they add a fourth outfielder. Sounds like they want someone who can play center field well.

They still need a power bat and multiple arms in the pen in my opinion. I still wonder if they transition Mauricio to outfield or third… it feels like they need to do something with him this offseason given his mvp play in whatever winter league he is playing in. Either trade him or find a home for him if he is that good.

 

[sutomcat]

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They still need a power bat and multiple arms in the pen in my opinion. I still wonder if they transition Mauricio to outfield or third… it feels like they need to do something with him this offseason given his mvp play in whatever winter league he is playing in. Either trade him or find a home for him if he is that good.

He hasn't even played at the AAA level yet. Not sure he is ready to play at the MLB level now. He has some weaknesses he needs to work on but no doubt he is an intriguing prospect and no doubt is athletic enough that he could move to another position.

Would not be surprised to see him playing some in CF in Syracuse this summer. Alex Ramirez looks to be a future star at CF but he is a couple of years away. If Mauricio proves he can play center and can hit at the AAA level, it makes him a lot more valuable. Could see him taking over in CF in 2024 and Nimmo moving to LF, which he is better suited to and will probably be a little easier on his body as he gets into his 30s.

 

[OrangeFoo]

He hasn't even played at the AAA level yet. Not sure he is ready to play at the MLB level now. He has some weaknesses he needs to work on but no doubt he is an intriguing prospect and no doubt is athletic enough that he could move to another position.

Would not be surprised to see him playing some in CF in Syracuse this summer. Alex Ramirez looks to be a future star at CF but he is a couple of years away. If Mauricio proves he can play center and can hit at the AAA level, it makes him a lot more valuable. Could see him taking over in CF in 2024 and Nimmo moving to LF, which he is better suited to and will probably be a little easier on his body as he gets into his 30s.

Lol... I didn't realize he was still a AA. I guess they will keep him at SS to maintain his positional value for trades. Mets will also have a RF gap to fill whenever Marte's contract is up since I don't think they will give him a long term contract with his history of injuries and his age. Maybe they bring back Conforto?

 

[SWC75]

After their staggering spending spree, can the Mets finally become sustainable winners?

The Mets’ luxury tax payroll is estimated to be around $345 million. But they aren’t just paying to win now. They’re buying time.

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After the games missed by 35-year-old DeGrom and 38-year-old Scherzer last year, what can we expect from Scherzer and 39-year-old Verlander this year?

There I go, thinking like a Mets fan...

 

[ScrabbCuse]

After their staggering spending spree, can the Mets finally become sustainable winners?

The Mets’ luxury tax payroll is estimated to be around $345 million. But they aren’t just paying to win now. They’re buying time.

theathletic.com

After the games missed by 35-year-old DeGrom and 38-year-old Scherzer last year, what can we expect from Scherzer and 39-year-old Verlander this year?

There I go, thinking like a Mets fan...

Verlander is going to be 40 when the season starts. Let’s hope age is just a number!

 

[SWC75]

Verlander is going to be 40 when the season starts. Let’s hope age is just a number!

As long as his other numbers are good.

 

[SWC75]

Kodai Senga makes a good first impression:

Mets' Kodai Senga makes charming first impression, but will he be a star?

The scouts said they want to see Senga be more aggressive in the majors with his high-velocity fastball.

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Will he feel the same way about the Phillies' line-up when he actually faces it?

 

[sutomcat]

Mets re-sign Adam Ottovino to a 2 year contract.

Adam Ottavino sticks with Mets on two-year deal

The Mets made their bullpen a priority this offseason, so it makes sense they’d bring back Adam Ottavino.

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That probably does it for the bullpen.

Diaz
Robertson
Ottovino
Raley
Smith

Is a darned good back end. I think it is an improvement over the bullpen last year. We really didn't have anyone reliable in the bullpen except Diaz and Ottovino. Both are back, Robertson would appear to be a difference maker and Raley should be an upgrade over Rodriquez. I think the rest of the bullpen should be better too. Greene, Curtis, Ridings, Brigham, Hernandez, Nogosek, de Oca and Woods all have promise and are, I think a grade above most of what we had to fill out our bullpen last year. One of Megill or Peterson will probably also work out of the bullpen too.

Scherzer
Verlander
Carrasco
Quintana
Senga

Megill and Peterson as the 6th and 7th starters

I would say this is a little better rotation than last year.

Quintana replaces Bassitt. Quintana had a better year last season but Bassitt has been more consistent. Close to a push there. Senga replaces Walker. Walker has been really good in the first half of seasons and bad in the second half. Overall okay. Guessing Senga will be similar to Tijuan but he is a big unknown and could end up a big mistake. If so, or if anyone gets hurt, we have Megill and Peterson to fill in. Our 6th and 7th starters are really good and we will likely dip into that depth at times during the season.

Biggest difference to me is that Verlander is likely to throw a lot more innings than deGrom did and be more effective as well. deGrom missed most of the year, and wasn't his normal dominating self last season. Really got hit hard his last time through the lineup. When he was out, Megill and Peterson had good and bad moments. I think Justin is going to be more solid here.

Offensively, so far we have the same team, except Vogelbach will be on the team all year long and Ruf has replaced JD Davis.

Will Baty take over at 3B? If so, will he be an upgrade on offense?

Will Alvarez take over at C? Will he take over as the right handed hitting DH? He can't hit much worse than Ruf or McCann/Nido.

I would say the offense is slightly better right now but I think we need someone else to play OF (only the starters and Jeff McNeil right now). That person would ideally be able to play all OF positions, and would ideally be a right handed power hitter.

Let's see if it happens.

 

[SWC75]

Could the rumored experiment with a 6 man rotation become a reality this year? We have 39 and 40 year old aces and a Japanese pitcher who is not used to pitching as often as they do in MLB. Megill, maybe?

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

Good MORNING Mets fans.

What's good?

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Ho lee faaaaak

 

[OrangeFoo]

Woke up to the texts about Correa… Uncle Steve flexing big time. Mets are also in on Hendricks from the White Sox.

Really curious what was in Correa’s meds that gave the Giants the willies

 

[Orangezoo]

Woke up to the texts about Correa… Uncle Steve flexing big time. Mets are also in on Hendricks from the White Sox.

Really curious what was in Correa’s meds that gave the Giants the willies

Yeah what exactly did we just pay for...

 

[MSOrange]

Woke up to the texts about Correa… Uncle Steve flexing big time. Mets are also in on Hendricks from the White Sox.

Really curious what was in Correa’s meds that gave the Giants the willies

He's been on the DL 7 out of 8 seasons,. so it could be any number of things.

 

[Orangezoo]

He's been on the DL 7 out of 8 seasons,. so it could be any number of things.

Maybe the Mets finally get the monkey off our back.. we have some youth that could step in if he needs to have some rest days to keep him healthy...

 

[sutomcat]

He's been on the DL 7 out of 8 seasons,. so it could be any number of things.

Heard he has had sporadic back issues, which is a red flag for many.

This is a remarkable move in a winter full of remarkable moves.

Correa just turned 28. He has 18 HRs and 59 RBIs so far. In the playoffs!

Mets infield stats in 2021, name HRs RBIs

Alonso 40 131
McNeil 9 62*
Lindor 26 107
Correa 22 64

*led NL in batting average

97 HRs for the infield alone

Guessing Baty becomes the 4th OF. Guessing Escobar gets traded.

I would think this puts the Mets out of the Ohtani sweepstakes. But it looks like you can never know what the Mets might do now...

 

[upperdeck]

the reports are the back issue was not the thing that the giants were worried about

 

[Orangezoo]

the reports are the back issue was not the thing that the giants were worried about

Ok that's a tad scary. Hopefully not a nerve issue as often that is more concerning but often related.

 

[Orangezoo]

Heard he has had sporadic back issues, which is a red flag for many.

This is a remarkable move in a winter full of remarkable moves.

Correa just turned 28. He has 18 HRs and 59 RBIs so far. In the playoffs!

Mets infield stats in 2021, name HRs RBIs

Alonso 40 131
McNeil 9 62*
Lindor 26 107
Correa 22 64

*led NL in batting average

97 HRs for the infield alone

Guessing Baty becomes the 4th OF. Guessing Escobar gets traded.

I would think this puts the Mets out of the Ohtani sweepstakes. But it looks like you can never know what the Mets might do now...

So maybe Baty at backup 3B and 4th OF given Correas history. Also I wonder if playing Correa at third works better for him injury wise vs the wear and tear playing SS.

 

[sutomcat]

So maybe Baty at backup 3B and 4th OF given Correas history. Also I wonder if playing Correa at third works better for him injury wise vs the wear and tear playing SS.

Yes. Guillorme and McNeil can play third as well.

Really only have Guillorme and McNeil at second unless the Mets decide to keep Escobar around too.

I am having problems cutting the roster down to 26 already. Looks like we are going to need to move one of the 3 MLB vets at catcher.

The Mets organization has some quality depth these days. Lots of good pitchers might start the year in Syracuse. Megill, Peterson, de Oca, Williams, Woods, Ridings, Butto. Guys like Reid-Foley and Hunter will probably start in CNY as well.

Alvarez is probably going to be the catcher for Syracuse to start the year.

Mauricio is likely going to start the season in Syracuse too. Might be at SS, 3B or even in the OF. Vientos might well start the year in Syracuse. Almonte should provide a veteran bat in the middle of the lineup.

There still isn't good overall depth at the top of the farm system but things are slowly improving.

 

[SWC75]

A year ago I was hoping they'd keep Baez and get Correa and have three young hot-shot Puerto Ricans on the left side of their infield for the next decade.

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I'd take their per 162 averages:

Baez .260BA 29W 151H 30D 4T 27HR 14SB 86RBI 83RS
Lindor .277BA 61W 178H 35D 4T 28HR 19SB 89RBI 103RS
Correa .279BA 74W 170H 34D 2T 28HR 6SB 101RBI 93RS

 

[Orangezoo]

Yes. Guillorme and McNeil can play third as well.

Really only have Guillorme and McNeil at second unless the Mets decide to keep Escobar around too.

I am having problems cutting the roster down to 26 already. Looks like we are going to need to move one of the 3 MLB vets at catcher.

The Mets organization has some quality depth these days. Lots of good pitchers might start the year in Syracuse. Megill, Peterson, de Oca, Williams, Woods, Ridings, Butto. Guys like Reid-Foley and Hunter will probably start in CNY as well.

Alvarez is probably going to be the catcher for Syracuse to start the year.

Mauricio is likely going to start the season in Syracuse too. Might be at SS, 3B or even in the OF. Vientos might well start the year in Syracuse. Almonte should provide a veteran bat in the middle of the lineup.

There still isn't good overall depth at the top of the farm system but things are slowly improving.

Hopefully we make it to opening day a healthy complete club especially on the pitching staff. Verlander will be 40 but he looked really strong last year physically to go with obvious elite performance.

I like the rotation pickups and the different looks it will give opponents night in night out.

Losing deGrom hurt but one does wonder what him being lit up when back from injury last year was a sign of. Wouldn't be surprised if Texas regrets that deal at some point.

 

[sutomcat]

Hopefully we make it to opening day a healthy complete club especially on the pitching staff. Verlander will be 40 but he looked really strong last year physically to go with obvious elite performance.

I like the rotation pickups and the different looks it will give opponents night in night out.

Losing deGrom hurt but one does wonder what him being lit up when back from injury last year was a sign of. Wouldn't be surprised if Texas regrets that deal at some point.

It was weird with Jake. He was the same old elite guy his first time through the lineup. Usually was good the second time through.

But when he got to around 80 pitches, all hell broke loose time and time again. He would go from working on a 1 hit shutout to giving up 3 runs in 10 pitches.

He lost a lot of his endurance. It will be interesting to see if he can get it back. And if he can, if he can avoid running into more injuries.

When he was on, he was a joy to watch pitch.