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2023-24 NBA Season

The match ups between her and Clark will be awesome. Those two on an Olympic team: wow
 
Knicks411 said:
It was just weird that as soon as this incredibly awesome thing ended Kenny immediately jumped into that.
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Yeah, it was an on-brand thing for him to say. If it was Curry vs. Chaz Lanier, he would have said Lanier should have shot from the college line. In that moment, though? Cringe.
 
The other point I would make is that no one in the actual 3 point contest beat Sabrina's score; she shot 26 and there were a few other people who got to 26, but no one beat that score other than literally the best shooter ever.

One other thing; I got so mad when they had a 4 way tie for 26 in the first round and instead of just putting all 4 guys in the finals, they had all 4 guys shoot for 30 seconds to eliminate one person. That was also probably cause I just wanted to see Steph vs Sabrina anyway
 
Fireball Jr. said:
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NBA teams on average are scoring 113.1 points per 100 possessions, the highest average since tracking data began in 1977 according to Stats Perform.

The 2015-2016 Golden State Warriors, considered the most potent attack in NBA history, would rank 19th in the league this year according to Stats in terms of offensive efficiency.

I'm sure there are lots of reasons for these stats - the emphasis on the 3 (approaching 40% in terms of attempts league wide) would be the most obvious one. Certainly the players are more skilled than ever at shooting the 3 but it wouldn't be a stretch to say that a lot of these 3 ball specialists may be below average defenders. Seems pretty clear to me that the defense is not keeping up with the offense. Rule changes not allowing hand checking have also juiced up the offense.
 
bpo57 said:
NBA teams on average are scoring 113.1 points per 100 possessions, the highest average since tracking data began in 1977 according to Stats Perform.

The 2015-2016 Golden State Warriors, considered the most potent attack in NBA history, would rank 19th in the league this year according to Stats in terms of offensive efficiency.

I'm sure there are lots of reasons for these stats - the emphasis on the 3 (approaching 40% in terms of attempts league wide) would be the most obvious one. Certainly the players are more skilled than ever at shooting the 3 but it wouldn't be a stretch to say that a lot of these 3 ball specialists may be below average defenders. Seems pretty clear to me that the defense is not keeping up with the offense. Rule changes not allowing hand checking have also juiced up the offense.
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The hand check rule went into effect 20 years ago.
 
It's interesting because 3 point rate may have finally hit an equilibrium; we've been right around 40% of FGA coming as 3's for the past few years, and in fact, we're just a little bit below the rate from a few years back. But 2 point FG% keep going up, we are at 54.6% this year, it was 54.8% last year and as recently as 2019-20 was 52%.

My hypothesis is something like while teams may have hit the optimal level of 3 point rate, defenses still need to cover so much more ground (and possibly with smaller players to get shooting on offense) that teams are learning how to take advantage of that to make 2's.
I made a chart showing what I mean, I plotted the effective FG% on 2's vs 3's (so adjusting the 3 for being worth more) from the start of the 3 point era to this season. When the 3 point line first started basically no one really took any and when they did they were generally awful, so the 2 pointer started out as more valuable. As time went on the league started to adapt and in the 91-92 season the 3 became the more efficient shot and stayed that way until the last year or so, where they are basically the same.
I also threw another chart in, just the rate of 2PA vs 3PA, you can see how 3 Point rate steadily grew but has basically flattened out the last 4 or 5 seasons
 

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Day2 said:
The hand check rule went into effect 20 years ago.
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And the period I referenced with regard to offensive efficiency metrics covers 46 years.
 
Day2 said:
And?
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The trend toward more scoring has been going on for quite some time although it's picked up speed lately. The elimination of hand checking was one minor factor in that evolution. A far bigger factor is guys standing around the three point line and chucking up threes all night long.

The game has changed but not for the better imo. I think it has contributed to the NBA's sagging ratings along with load management, super teams, tanking for draft picks, everybody making the playoffs (20 out of 30 teams is absurd). The regular season is like the bataan death march and has been rendered meaningless. An 82 game season is way too long.

It's a shame because these are some of the greatest athletes in the world and their skills are incredible. But the league needs to address the issues cited above because the product is not what it could be.
 
Celtics played with their food a bit last night, but got the job done against the Bulls. D White is a bad man.
 
bpo57 said:
NBA teams on average are scoring 113.1 points per 100 possessions, the highest average since tracking data began in 1977 according to Stats Perform.

The 2015-2016 Golden State Warriors, considered the most potent attack in NBA history, would rank 19th in the league this year according to Stats in terms of offensive efficiency.

I'm sure there are lots of reasons for these stats - the emphasis on the 3 (approaching 40% in terms of attempts league wide) would be the most obvious one. Certainly the players are more skilled than ever at shooting the 3 but it wouldn't be a stretch to say that a lot of these 3 ball specialists may be below average defenders. Seems pretty clear to me that the defense is not keeping up with the offense. Rule changes not allowing hand checking have also juiced up the offense.
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Hand check was nothing and the illegal defense change was much more impactful in favor of the D.

Players are better and smarter.

Front offices are much much much smarter.

Front offices used to be run by gut feeling.
 
I kinda like the Clippers new uniform look, but that ship in their new logo is very clearly not a clipper.
 
ok, so i got in an argument with my friend about this today...need outside input. i will NOT state which side of the argument i was on so as to avoid any blowback.

two part question.
1. If before the season, Michael jordan were given a couple months to train / get in shape...could he win MVP of the WNBA at his current age.

2. would the typical Oak Hill Academy Boys Varsity basketball team defeat a team of WNBA All-stars?
 
Red Holzman said:
Knicks on the other end of a ref-admitted bad call 2wks ago handing a W to the Rockets.
At least some equity in that regard.
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significant differences in circumstances. The blown call vs Houston means the game would have gone into OT, where either team could have still won. A correctly called foul last night would have probably resulted in an over 80% win expectation for Detroit
 
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