2024 Fall Ball

[DoctahLexus]

thanks for all the updates. That was awesome. Can’t wait for the next game.

Unfortunately I will not be able to attend the second one. There were a zillion parents and other fans over there though. I am sure we will hear more and get some clips of the action

 

[Powellfan]

You love to see it.

 

[DMVCuseLax]

Any updates on 2nd scrimmage?

 

[Powellfan]

 

[BBCuse]

Here is how I scored it. Please feel free to add details.

	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	Final
AIR FORCE	1	5	3	2	11
SYRACUSE	5	5	5	4	19

#22 Spallina

#19 Deere

#19 Deere

AF

#15 English

#91 Deere from Thomson (Sweet Assist)

End of 1st (5-1)

#22 Spallina

#35 Billy Dwan BTB (sick ball movement)

AF

#27 John Mullen

AF

AF

#22 Spallina

AF

AF

#43 Charlie Kraftson

End of 2nd (5-5)

AF #10

Cuse maybe Finn

Cuse

Cuse #23 Finn Thomson

AF #33

AF #43

Cuse #90 Owen Farrell

Cuse #21 Blake Borges

End of 3rd (5-3)

Cuse #50 Ryder Ochoa

AF #56 AF

AF

Cuse #43 Charlie Kraftson

Cuse #14 Drew Angelo

Cuse #40 Tucker Kellogg

End of 4th (4-2)

 

[orange79]

Thanks to all for the great updates!

 

[Powellfan]

 

[Powellfan]

Surprised we haven't heard anything regarding the second scrimmage vs Providence. Hopefully something comes out soon.

Thanks to all for the updates regarding the first game. It sounds like they did a fair bit of mixing and matching. Hearing that Thomson played attack (with I'm guessing Spallina and Deere) is a bit surprising. I'm guessing he will move back to midfield for the season, but I guess just something to note for now.

Nice to see that Rice is providing an offensive punch. I would say that has been the one thing lacking in his game the last few years. If he can be a real two-way threat that could really open things up. Obviously you have Dwan who is a threat to score every time he crosses midfield, but replacing Olexo's transition production will be important.

Lastly, John Mullen looks freaking huge. It's hard to think another fogo will matchup with him physically.

Nice goal here from Kraftson.

 

[DoctahLexus]

Surprised we haven't heard anything regarding the second scrimmage vs Providence. Hopefully something comes out soon.

Thanks to all for the updates regarding the first game. It sounds like they did a fair bit of mixing and matching. Hearing that Thomson played attack (with I'm guessing Spallina and Deere) is a bit surprising. I'm guessing he will move back to midfield for the season, but I guess just something to note for now.

Nice to see that Rice is providing an offensive punch. I would say that has been the one thing lacking in his game the last few years. If he can be a real two-way threat that could really open things up. Obviously you have Dwan who is a threat to score every time he crosses midfield, but replacing Olexo's transition production will be important.

Lastly, John Mullen looks freaking huge. It's hard to think another fogo will matchup with him physically.

Nice goal here from Kraftson.

Would not read into Thomson playing attack at all. For most of what I saw the starting middies were guys likely to be ssdm/wing players during the regular season. He did very well in the part I saw. May have come out of the box a handful of times too.

That Kraftson goal is basically the play I was referencing that looked "Hiltz-like". Not blinding speed but smoothness and good timing on his moves all game. Had a nice 1v1 goal against a longpole as well. Could be a playing time candidate down the line.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[BBCuse]

Deere and Spallina were not on the field when Thomson was running the offense. I can’t remember who else was out there now, but essentially Thompson replaced Spallina in the 4th quarter.

 

[UrbanaOrange]

Deere and Spallina were not on the field when Thomson was running the offense. I can’t remember who else was out there now, but essentially Thompson replaced Spallina in the 4th quarter.

How'd the freshman show during the scrimmages?

 

[DMVCuseLax]

This is what was sent to me about Providence scrimmage.
Line - up
Attack -
Hiltz
Birt
Greg Elijah-Brown

Defense -
Fig
Beck
Scott

Goalie - Ippoliti
Caccamo - LSM

OM playing D

Offense was very sloppy with the ball. A lot of ill advised passes.

Goals

Providence

Providence

Hiltz

Providence

Providence

Providence - Manup

Birt

Hiltz

Providence

Kraftson

Hiltz

Deere

Deere

Half Cuse 7-6

Providence

Cuse with some subs on D and G

Providence

Providence

Deere

Cuse unk

Providence

Providence

Providence- manup

Greg Elijah-Brown

 

[Powellfan]

This is what was sent to me about Providence scrimmage.
Line - up
Attack -
Hiltz
Birt
Greg Elijah-Brown

Defense -
Fig
Beck
Scott

Goalie - Ippoliti
Caccamo - LSM

OM playing D

Offense was very sloppy with the ball. A lot of ill advised passes.

Goals

Providence

Providence

Hiltz

Providence

Providence

Providence - Manup

Birt

Hiltz

Providence

Kraftson

Hiltz

Deere

Deere

Half Cuse 7-6

Providence

Cuse with some subs on D and G

Providence

Providence

Deere

Cuse unk

Providence

Providence

Providence- manup

Greg Elijah-Brown

Thanks DMV! This is helpful. A little surprised that even with a split team, the Orange didn't do better here, but it's probably not worth getting too up or down about scrimmage results, no matter what.

Just looking through the list of goal scorers, seems like perhaps the big winner of the weekend was Trey Deere. If the stats tracking is accurate (always tricky), he finished the weekend with six goals in the two games (three in each). Have to imagine that helps his case in locking down a starting spot.

 

[DoctahLexus]

Thanks DMV! This is helpful. A little surprised that even with a split team, the Orange didn't do better here, but it's probably not worth getting too up or down about scrimmage results, no matter what.

Just looking through the list of goal scorers, seems like perhaps the big winner of the weekend was Trey Deere. If the stats tracking is accurate (always tricky), he finished the weekend with six goals in the two games (three in each). Have to imagine that helps his case in locking down a starting spot.

I think "OM playing D" is a big factor here. 90% of the quality looks Airforce got were when they dodged against an O middie on defense. I assume it was similar for providence. Yes it is split teams but at the very least Carter Rice, English, Spallina, and Mullen are huuuge pieces of the puzzle. Very different team without those guys out there.

Glad to see Deere did well in both games. Wish I caught more of the first half of Airforce to see his goals. He is lethal on two man game plays, which is a big part of the offense. He has my vote for third attack. Wonder how much Anderson and Leo played, if at all, since they did not appear in the stats against Providence.

 

[DMVCuseLax]

I think "OM playing D" is a big factor here. 90% of the quality looks Airforce got were when they dodged against an O middie on defense. I assume it was similar for providence. Yes it is split teams but at the very least Carter Rice, English, Spallina, and Mullen are huuuge pieces of the puzzle. Very different team without those guys out there.

Glad to see Deere did well in both games. Wish I caught more of the first half of Airforce to see his goals. He is lethal on two man game plays, which is a big part of the offense. He has my vote for third attack. Wonder how much Anderson and Leo played, if at all, since they did not appear in the stats against Providence.

Last I heard, Leo was nursing an injury so he didn't play.

 

[GrowTheGame]

After his worlds performance, anyone notice how Stone Evans did for Providence? Seemed like a big get for them, and also since he de-committed from Air Force I do wonder if that was awkward at all haha

 

[CusefanATL]

any word on how anderson, cam ryan or drew angelo did?

 

[DoctahLexus]

any word on how anderson, cam ryan or drew angelo did?

No word on Anderson or Ryan, but I saw Angelo against Airforce and he looked quality. Maybe not as strong off the clamp as Mullen (which is a tall order) but tenacious on groundballs and clearly a high end athlete. Very big strong and fast for a freshman at any position. Had a nice goal late in the game.

 

[Powellfan]

 

[Powellfan]

It's 12 things, but never you mind.

Nothing about Syracuse, this is just a roundup of Fall Ball events that they covered (none of which were outside the mid-Atlantic). IL seemed to make a much bigger effort of trying to see more teams last fall (they visited SU for a practice in '23). I think this year they've only done a handful of their team-based check ins, and all have been Baltimore based schools. A shame. Hopefully they step it up for the spring.

One interesting nugget is that Maryland is running with Erksa, Spanos and Kelly as their starting attack. Given the fact that they brought in Matthew Keegan and Bryce Ford as transfers, and have Spencer Ford as an incoming freshman, I find that surprising. I know it's early and they could just be playing possum, but IL makes it seem like this group is more or less settled.

 

[Zack80]

I didn't go to the Maryland scrimmage with Cornell, but apparently Maryland only scored 2 goals against Cornell in the first half - 1 by Holmes on a fast break.
So we'll see.

 

[JeremyCuse]

It's 12 things, but never you mind.

Nothing about Syracuse, this is just a roundup of Fall Ball events that they covered (none of which were outside the mid-Atlantic). IL seemed to make a much bigger effort of trying to see more teams last fall (they visited SU for a practice in '23). I think this year they've only done a handful of their team-based check ins, and all have been Baltimore based schools. A shame. Hopefully they step it up for the spring.

One interesting nugget is that Maryland is running with Erksa, Spanos and Kelly as their starting attack. Given the fact that they brought in Matthew Keegan and Bryce Ford as transfers, and have Spencer Ford as an incoming freshman, I find that surprising. I know it's early and they could just be playing possum, but IL makes it seem like this group is more or less settled.

Judging by last years offensive struggles for Maryland and the loss of the best FOGO in the country, I find it hard to believe that will be the starting attack unit for long or even it make it to game 1.

 

[Zack80]

Judging by last years offensive struggles for Maryland and the loss of the best FOGO in the country, I find it hard to believe that will be the starting attack unit for long or even it make it to game 1.

Wierman was very good last year, but his FO pct was .629 so he wasn't totally dominant. It really depends on what his replacements do.

 

[Hoo's That]

Something to whet your lacrosse appetite. The 2024 Baggataway Cup Final, the Canadian university championship between the Western Mustangs, who won their semifinal in 4 OT, and the Queens Gaels, who barely made the playoffs with a 5-5 record and made a remarkable playoff run.