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2024 Seating Changes

TexanMark said:
I thought about how they will do ties. I assume priority points first will be used. After that...?

This isn't going to be easy.
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Are most people stuck with the priority pts from their donor money right now? Thats all I see on mine.

But within a level at some pt there will be many many ties.

3600 at captain or above
3300 at varsity
23000 at teammate? can that be right?

I would think those top 5 levels wont contain more than hundreds giving 2500+

All conference probably hundreds
Captain is a bunch of people who buy multiple seats down low, which is probably a large chunk.

If they dont get pts fixed.. You could easily have 1000 or so tied at these different levels.
 
upperdeck said:
Are most people stuck with the priority pts from their donor money right now? Thats all I see on mine.

But within a level at some pt there will be many many ties.

3600 at captain or above
3300 at varsity
23000 at teammate? can that be right?

I would think those top 5 levels wont contain more than hundreds giving 2500+

All conference probably hundreds
Captain is a bunch of people who buy multiple seats down low, which is probably a large chunk.

If they dont get pts fixed.. You could easily have 1000 or so tied at these different levels.
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Then you better hope your last name is Aaadams. ;-)
 
upperdeck said:
Are most people stuck with the priority pts from their donor money right now? Thats all I see on mine.

But within a level at some pt there will be many many ties.

3600 at captain or above
3300 at varsity
23000 at teammate? can that be right?

I would think those top 5 levels wont contain more than hundreds giving 2500+

All conference probably hundreds
Captain is a bunch of people who buy multiple seats down low, which is probably a large chunk.

If they dont get pts fixed.. You could easily have 1000 or so tied at these different levels.
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If I recall from years past, the top five levels are at least a 1k people, maybe 1500. It used to be less than 1k I think but they've done a better job recruiting donors with the Lally center. Say it is 1500, if each buys an average of four seats, that's 6k seats. But I doubt it's an average of four and to be honest, a lot of the donors in the first few groups are basketball only, too. So you end up with say 500-750 and say an average of three seats gets you to 2k-3k seats, perhaps in the first five groups? The Group 1 is less than 200..

JR probably better suited to fix my math here. Based on parking lot selections in the past, we can probably estimate things too.

My point is most people are going to be fine when they come to pick. Some people prefer lowers in that group. Some of them prefer prime upper deck, too. My son prefers to be closer to the field vs. having a better sight line despite the fact I'd rather be up back more. Everyone has different preferences. I think there is more worry than necessary.
 
richmondcuse03 said:
If I recall from years past, the top five levels are at least a 1k people, maybe 1500. It used to be less than 1k I think but they've done a better job recruiting donors with the Lally center. Say it is 1500, if each buys an average of four seats, that's 6k seats. But I doubt it's an average of four and to be honest, a lot of the donors in the first few groups are basketball only, too. So you end up with say 500-750 and say an average of three seats gets you to 2k-3k seats, perhaps in the first five groups? The Group 1 is less than 200..

JR probably better suited to fix my math here. Based on parking lot selections in the past, we can probably estimate things too.

My point is most people are going to be fine when they come to pick. Some people prefer lowers in that group. Some of them prefer prime upper deck, too. My son prefers to be closer to the field vs. having a better sight line despite the fact I'd rather be up back more. Everyone has different preferences. I think there is more worry than necessary.
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We probably have enough information to complete that matrix.
I can contribute that at Level 4-ACC Champion there are 193 donors. And by subtracting my rank within my level from my total rank I can see there are 328 in the top 3 levels.

What do others see in any different levels?
 
I Agree I dont think most have much to worry about getting moved more than a few rows or side to side for fball.

What will happen though, is say the person in the 200 front row might get sniped, or the aisle seat might get lost.

Bball is going to be the tougher issue.

SU probably doesnt want people to know, but we have rankings within sport if people are bball or fball only, but when they open this up does donor ranking matter or fball ranking matter? could someone with bball only jump in and take fball seats?
 
upperdeck said:
I Agree I dont think most have much to worry about getting moved more than a few rows or side to side for fball.

What will happen though, is say the person in the 200 front row might get sniped, or the aisle seat might get lost.

Bball is going to be the tougher issue.

SU probably doesnt want people to know, but we have rankings within sport if people are bball or fball only, but when they open this up does donor ranking matter or fball ranking matter? could someone with bball only jump in and take fball seats?
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In theory a bball only with a high donor ranking could. However, they could have bought tickets before too. There have been good seats available. I suspect this wont be much of an issue.
 
Consigliere said:
We probably have enough information to complete that matrix.
I can contribute that at Level 4-ACC Champion there are 193 donors. And by subtracting my rank within my level from my total rank I can see there are 328 in the top 3 levels.

What do others see in any different levels?
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I suspect this is a little lighter than usual, at least for groups 3-5 as season ticket donations push people up a bit. But it's a helpful exercise regardless.
 
It just seems that there a tons of people in the lowest level when even 2 tickets gets you in varsity level.

I wonder how many people fit in the years of STH as well with the 20 yr cutoff a bunch will have that amount of points in equal ways.
 
richmondcuse03 said:
If I recall from years past, the top five levels are at least a 1k people, maybe 1500. It used to be less than 1k I think but they've done a better job recruiting donors with the Lally center. Say it is 1500, if each buys an average of four seats, that's 6k seats. But I doubt it's an average of four and to be honest, a lot of the donors in the first few groups are basketball only, too. So you end up with say 500-750 and say an average of three seats gets you to 2k-3k seats, perhaps in the first five groups? The Group 1 is less than 200..

JR probably better suited to fix my math here. Based on parking lot selections in the past, we can probably estimate things too.

My point is most people are going to be fine when they come to pick. Some people prefer lowers in that group. Some of them prefer prime upper deck, too. My son prefers to be closer to the field vs. having a better sight line despite the fact I'd rather be up back more. Everyone has different preferences. I think there is more worry than necessary.
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You also need to take into account the Suites and Club seats. Those will be taken by many of the higher donors vs your average Joe's seat, even in Section 101.
 
Consigliere said:
We probably have enough information to complete that matrix.
I can contribute that at Level 4-ACC Champion there are 193 donors. And by subtracting my rank within my level from my total rank I can see there are 328 in the top 3 levels.

What do others see in any different levels?
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I believe last year's FB counted for 2022-23 so everyone is a bit lower than they usually are since only BBall payments were after June 30th.

I am usually in ACC but currently I am All American. Yet if I renew both FB and BBall before May 1 I will be National Champ.

So it looks like there are 963 currently in the Top 5 categories. Which will increase once people pay up before May.
 
HRE Otto IV said:
I believe last year's FB counted for 2022-23 so everyone is a bit lower than they usually are since only BBall payments were after June 30th.

I am usually in ACC but currently I am All American. Yet if I renew both FB and BBall before May 1 I will be National Champ.

So it looks like there are 963 currently in the Top 5 categories. Which will increase once people pay up before May.
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There are 1172 people in the All-Conference level. So the Top 6 levels appear to have 2,135 people.

But as you point out, this is all going to change as people make new donations for 2024 tickets and possibly additional donations to try to increase their standing for seat selection.
 
richmondcuse03 said:
It’s based on the priority points within that level. You get extra for how long you held seats but ultimately total donations matter.
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That makes sense I just wonder the timing of how they are going to do this. Adam is rated higher than Bill so does the rep call Adam and then Bill? Are we in a Que or the like and when our slot is open we pick?
 
Considering the plan is going over a period of like 40 days if they go thru weekends. IF you have 15 min windows you could create around 1000 slots.

Then the question we don't know is, if this is Fball STH holders only, or they plan on letting donors for Bball only jump in. Say they dont, which would be the fair thing to do, How many of the 30000 ranked people are in the mix? Lets make it simple 10k Fball/10K Bball/ 10k Both.

20K over 1000 slots so 20 people every 15min.

Considering we only sell 20K ish tickets in each sport 30K of donors seems too high a well.. That would imply with a 2 ticket avg 60K of season tickets and we are closer to 40-50K.

So lets back that down to 10K of Fball people in this thing. I would suspect the higher end seats like suites are not gonna flip around in this process since thats big bucks.

10K over 1000 slots so 10 people every 15min.

Thats doable. Maybe they go to 5 min slots and its like 2-3 every 5 min.

That would give each person pretty much a private window and if you miss it by 15 min not many jump your slot?

Is 10K still too high? Does 2.5 per person seem to low?
 

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