2025 Ryder Cup

[kirbivore]

No one is going to want to be the USA Captain in 2027.

Everyone hates Phil. 2027 would be perfect

 

[CuseTG2003]

I get the NY tough crowd thing but heckling when you are getting your arse kicked is d-baggery.

World is full of anonymous tough guys.

Fan behavior has been disgraceful and sadly predictable. Sign of the times.

 

[Orangezoo]

Fan behavior has been disgraceful and sadly predictable. Sign of the times.

A lot of self proclaimed alpha males acting like toddlers these days. Entitled to be disrespectful and annoying dbags then quick to cry foul and claim victim status when they are called out on it.

 

[upperdeck]

are they blind drawings now? They didnt used to be. The used to a do a snake draw..

 

[Oakland]

Unfortunately, it appears that Keegan Bradley's legacy as a Ryder Cup captain is not going to be very good. But, it's not all his fault. The Europeans are just much better players with these formats. Just look at their lifetime results.

And the thought process of the New York crowds having a huge impact are minimized by the experience of the Europeans and the fact that the Euros have been taking the crowd out

Was traveling and missed the Friday afternoon games. Saturday morning I think it goes:

USA
Euro
Euro
USA

I predict the following wins in Sunday singles:

Fleetwood
Bryson
Barton
Avery
Spaun
Lowery

 

[kirbivore]

Think Hovland's injury was fake to secure a half point?

 

[cliftonparksufan]

A lot of talk about Viktor's neck.

 

[CanadianSU]

Horrible rules.

Should be an alternate selected for injuries and also if US comes to tie this I don’t consider that a win for Europe. Should go to some sudden death.

 

[GoSU96]

What a comeback. Henley and Morikowa a couple of chance to win by inches. At least a tie. Hell of an effort, very entertaining

 

[MSOrange]

Horrible rules.

Should be an alternate selected for injuries and also if US comes to tie this I don’t consider that a win for Europe. Should go to some sudden death.

Personally, I think the injury rule should be like NCAA wrestling. If you can't go, it's a forfeit.

And I agree there should be some sort of playoff rule. I know it would be changing long-standing tradition, but rules have been changed before.

 

[GoSU96]

Ludvig in the back row “Beer me bro”

 

[GoSU96]

Came down to the USA lead lead dogs vs the Euros

Scottie and Bryson didn’t generate enough points

 

[upperdeck]

Really the "sit a guy" rule was created when the USA was dominating for the most part,

now that every point matters change it up. Forfeit is not fun, but the team that sits the player should let the other team decide who they want in a 2 pt match.

To me the singles should not have ties. the other 2 days thats fine. But the final day guys play to win.

Imagine the drama if say Scottie had played for 2 pts and those last 3 matches really could have changed the outcome.

I mean I had 200-1 on USA and actually had a reason to watch all the way thru. Lowery missing would have made it really fun late.

 

[Newhouser]

I think the sit a guy thing is getting overblown because of our run.

Bradley taking shots at it shows he doesn't know the history and how the US benefitted in the past. In the history of the cup it's happened what 3 times?
I think he was disrespectful to Hovland. Does he really think up 7 Europe said "hey Victor fake an injury that Harris English has been nails in this event thus far".

The rule that should be changed is giving dumb captains the power to take the teeth out of a tough course and to put the same pair out back to back basically conceding two points.

 

[orangecuse]

I watched a ton of the Ryder Cup.

The vulgar whooping up the crowd jeers, apparently initiated by some PGA appointed female emcee, was mind boggling, let alone flat out disgraceful.

There's banter, and then there is flat out verbal abuse, etc. that clearly crosses the line. Interestingly, Rory is beloved by many folk here in America (by true golf fans, etc.) as anyone who ever tunes in regularly on the PGA tour events, let alone the Majors, can attest. Obviously, the Ryder Cup, which pitches a team (country) event over the individual sport that it is, along with all of the standard type etiquette, etc. that's commonplace/embedded in the sport, crosses over here. Therefore, a peculiar dynamic shift for sure. However, the vulgarity and such that was on full display at times by numerous individuals, clearly is unacceptable. It's darn right shameful. However, unfortunately, so are we culturally nowadays and for some time now.

I also watched the entire post event ceremonies on the Golf Channel. In regards to Bradley's comments on the injury and both teams getting a half point, I didn't take anything he stated as disrespectful. He actually precursed his sentiment by first stating; 'this is in no disrespect to Viktor.'

The broader interpretation, at least IMO and perspective from what Keegan said is; that this is sport, and if a circumstance should arise, especially one that in theory isn't unheard of and clearly possible, than a different scenerio should play out where nothing is given, so to speak, to anyone. Let the result be decided on the field of play. It's not as if this withdrawal, forfeit, what have you, happened while the actual specific (in the moment) competition was taking place. Even if it did, there still could've been an alternate, substitute, etc. 'waiting in the wings.'

Regardless of the long withstanding rule/agreement in place, margin, etc. at that time of occurence, I'm not sure how anyone, from a pure competition, etc. standpoint can honestly disagree with that.

 

[CuseTG2003]

Watson apologizes to Euros for 'rude' U.S. fans

Two-time U.S. Ryder Cup captain Tom Watson on Monday apologized for the "rude" behavior of fans at Bethpage Black, saying he was "ashamed of what happened."

www.espn.com

It'd be nice if Keegan and the team apologized publicly. Maybe they have, but I haven't seen it.

 

[br801]

 

[br801]

Watson apologizes to Euros for 'rude' U.S. fans

Two-time U.S. Ryder Cup captain Tom Watson on Monday apologized for the "rude" behavior of fans at Bethpage Black, saying he was "ashamed of what happened."

www.espn.com

It'd be nice if Keegan and the team apologized publicly. Maybe they have, but I haven't seen it.

They would be flagged for excessive wokeness if they did that.

 

[Oakland]

The injury rule is fine and should not be changed. It does not favor either side and is perfectly aligned with this being a friendly gentleman's competition, and it does not determine the outcome of the event - the other 27 matches do that.

 

[Oakland]

I watched a ton of the Ryder Cup.

The vulgar whooping up the crowd jeers, apparently initiated by some PGA appointed female emcee, was mind boggling, let alone flat out disgraceful.

There's banter, and then there is flat out verbal abuse, etc. that clearly crosses the line. Interestingly, Rory is beloved by many folk here in America (by true golf fans, etc.) as anyone who ever tunes in regularly on the PGA tour events, let alone the Majors, can attest. Obviously, the Ryder Cup, which pitches a team (country) event over the individual sport that it is, along with all of the standard type etiquette, etc. that's commonplace/embedded in the sport, crosses over here. Therefore, a peculiar dynamic shift for sure. However, the vulgarity and such that was on full display at times by numerous individuals, clearly is unacceptable. It's darn right shameful. However, unfortunately, so are we culturally nowadays and for some time now.

I also watched the entire post event ceremonies on the Golf Channel. In regards to Bradley's comments on the injury and both teams getting a half point, I didn't take anything he stated as disrespectful. He actually precursed his sentiment by first stating; 'this is in no disrespect to Viktor.'

The broader interpretation, at least IMO and perspective from what Keegan said is; that this is sport, and if a circumstance should arise, especially one that in theory isn't unheard of and clearly possible, than a different scenerio should play out where nothing is given, so to speak, to anyone. Let the result be decided on the field of play. It's not as if this withdrawal, forfeit, what have you, happened while the actual specific (in the moment) competition was taking place. Even if it did, there still could've been an alternate, substitute, etc. 'waiting in the wings.'

Regardless of the long withstanding rule/agreement in place, margin, etc. at that time of occurence, I'm not sure how anyone, from a pure competition, etc. standpoint can honestly disagree with that.

Agree about the emcee - mind boggling indeed.

 

[kirbivore]

Hovland Saturday night