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3 wasted years

Dcuse said:
Great Gerry hate guys.
What a fan base on this board.
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No one hates Gerry. Not one post has said that.

A lot of people are skeptical of the hire. If Gerry McNamaras career was the exact same except he grew up in Strongsville, OH and won a national title at Louisville and made it to the NCAAs as the head coach of Austin Peay …. He literally wouldn’t be on our list top 25 candidates most likely. Nothing in the metrics show Anything special on either side of the ball.

I am well aware people will say “his guys play hard!!” Great … I’m sure they do. I’m sure they would at Austin Peay because that’s how he coaches. But there are a ton of good coaches that can do that … with a more proven track record.


I’m happy he went here, but he got the job because he went here.

I also believe that the NIL factor is real …. And i understand why GMac draws the most NIL cash from the donor base … I get all the reasons.

Based on some reactions here GMac is the best choice for the general fan base, which I get it too.

GMac probably offers the most ROI for the admin for the immediate future. Donor support + ticket sales + higher general fan interest + easy espn/media headlines…..it may not look good initially on the court but the general vibes will be good .

Hodgson would probably be met with less excitement overall by the fanbase than GMac will. Based on posts here by people who would know …. The donor support wasn’t quite there for BH. Easy to see how that leads to less excitement in the general fan base.


I just don’t think the best choice was made for the basketball product on the court. It seemed like the emphasis was what the drive the most initial revenue
 
jdubs30 said:
No one hates Gerry. Not one post has said that.

A lot of people are skeptical of the hire. If Gerry McNamaras career was the exact same except he grew up in Strongsville, OH and won a national title at Louisville and made it to the NCAAs as the head coach of Austin Peay …. He literally wouldn’t be on our list top 25 candidates most likely. Nothing in the metrics show Anything special on either side of the ball.

I am well aware people will say “his guys play hard!!” Great … I’m sure they do. I’m sure they would at Austin Peay because that’s how he coaches. But there are a ton of good coaches that can do that … with a more proven track record.


I’m happy he went here, but he got the job because he went here.

I also believe that the NIL factor is real …. And i understand why GMac draws the most NIL cash from the donor base … I get all the reasons.

Based on some reactions here GMac is the best choice for the general fan base, which I get it too.

GMac probably offers the most ROI for the admin for the immediate future. Donor support + ticket sales + higher general fan interest + easy espn/media headlines…..it may not look good initially on the court but the general vibes will be good .

Hodgson would probably be met with less excitement overall by the fanbase than GMac will. Based on posts here by people who would know …. The donor support wasn’t quite there for BH. Easy to see how that leads to less excitement in the general fan base.


I just don’t think the best choice was made for the basketball product on the court. It seemed like the emphasis was what the drive the most initial revenue
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Why is this so hard for people to accept?
 
CuseBlood44 said:
A lot of you are insufferable & miserable. Really behind gmac and give him a chance….
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Who said he's not gonna be given a chance??

It can be argued he was not the best candidate available and still be supported by most everyone.

It's ok to say that, even if you don't agree, and it's not a conspiracy.

We can all walk and chew gum and agree to disagree. It doesn't make someone that disagrees with you insufferable and miserable.
 
CuseBlood44 said:
A lot of you are insufferable & miserable. Really behind gmac and give him a chance….
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What I find insufferable are people who want to jump on a lot of diehard fans for not agreeing with them that this decision was the best one. I think the Gerry hire was BS. It was never about hiring the best coach for the job. That's what bothers me. Eventually I'll support Gerry but my support to Syracuse took a hit today. I really thought they would do what's best for the program and find a way. They did not.
 
Dcuse said:
If they had made the right call 3 years ago we would be in front of our TVs right now chewing on finger nails and washing them down with booze.
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It’s pretty obvious why SU went with Red even though most knew he wasn’t the best in-house guy to replace JB.

I think we may have our guy for the next 20 years now. Fingers crossed.
 
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Dcuse said:
I’ve been for McNamara since he walked off the court on his senior day.
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jdubs30 said:
No one hates Gerry. Not one post has said that.

A lot of people are skeptical of the hire. If Gerry McNamaras career was the exact same except he grew up in Strongsville, OH and won a national title at Louisville and made it to the NCAAs as the head coach of Austin Peay …. He literally wouldn’t be on our list top 25 candidates most likely. Nothing in the metrics show Anything special on either side of the ball.

I am well aware people will say “his guys play hard!!” Great … I’m sure they do. I’m sure they would at Austin Peay because that’s how he coaches. But there are a ton of good coaches that can do that … with a more proven track record.


I’m happy he went here, but he got the job because he went here.

I also believe that the NIL factor is real …. And i understand why GMac draws the most NIL cash from the donor base … I get all the reasons.

Based on some reactions here GMac is the best choice for the general fan base, which I get it too.

GMac probably offers the most ROI for the admin for the immediate future. Donor support + ticket sales + higher general fan interest + easy espn/media headlines…..it may not look good initially on the court but the general vibes will be good .

Hodgson would probably be met with less excitement overall by the fanbase than GMac will. Based on posts here by people who would know …. The donor support wasn’t quite there for BH. Easy to see how that leads to less excitement in the general fan base.


I just don’t think the best choice was made for the basketball product on the court. It seemed like the emphasis was what the drive the most initial revenue
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So what did Hodgson do to get on our A list?

He coached Ark st for 2 yrs and thats a step down from Siena.
They made a CBI and an NIT.
He coached one year at USF.

How different is what Jerry did?

USF went 14-18, 25-8, 13-19 then Hodgson went 25-9. Nothing that screams success like up down up down.

Sienna had its best record since 2009.
 
What if Autry was a 3 year interim while GMAC got some experience/audition as a head coach at another school. A long term plan.
 
upperdeck said:
So what did Hodgson do to get on our A list?

He coached Ark st for 2 yrs and thats a step down from Siena.
They made a CBI and an NIT.
He coached one year at USF.

How different is what Jerry did?

USF went 14-18, 25-8, 13-19 then Hodgson went 25-9. Nothing that screams success like up down up down.

Sienna had its best record since 2009.
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He created a 5D Chess offense that nobody can replicate or something like that.
 
upperdeck said:
So what did Hodgson do to get on our A list?

He coached Ark st for 2 yrs and thats a step down from Siena.
They made a CBI and an NIT.
He coached one year at USF.

How different is what Jerry did?

USF went 14-18, 25-8, 13-19 then Hodgson went 25-9. Nothing that screams success like up down up down.

Sienna had its best record since 2009.
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The Sun Belt is not a worse conference than the MAAC. Ark St is not a step down from Siena.

Siena also had by far the most NIL in their conference.
 
HakAttack said:
A lot of people arical of the hire. If Gerry McNamaras career was the exact same except he grew up in Strongsville, OH and won a national title at Louisville and made it to the NCAAs as the head coach of Austin Peay …. He literally wouldn’t be on our list top 25 candidates most likely. Nothing in the metrics show Anything special on either side of the ball.I am well aware people will say “his guys play hard!!” Great … I’m sure they do. I’m sure they would at Austin Peay because that’s how he coaches. But there are a ton of good coaches that can do that … with a more proven track record.


I’m happy he went here, but he got the job because he went here.
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I don't think it's hard at all
The simple answer is "he did go here", and he didn't coach Austen Peay...and if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle
Concerns are legitimate and important obviously, but any hire is literally a crap shoot. There's no guarantee that any of the other candidates were home runs, so let's put our chips in with a guy who's shown that he has the chops, the will, work ethic, connections, and incoming fan support, to do a better job than what was left.
I think GMac will do well- notwithstanding the typical tired miserably cynical CNY attitude, should things start slow. But Gerry knows this area, he's familiar with the attitudes of some in our fan base who love to spout "I told you so's..." at every stumble.
Fortunately, most fans are excited and looking forward to watching this happen. As always, we shall see
 
jdubs30 said:
No one hates Gerry. Not one post has said that.

A lot of people are skeptical of the hire. If Gerry McNamaras career was the exact same except he grew up in Strongsville, OH and won a national title at Louisville and made it to the NCAAs as the head coach of Austin Peay …. He literally wouldn’t be on our list top 25 candidates most likely. Nothing in the metrics show Anything special on either side of the ball.

I am well aware people will say “his guys play hard!!” Great … I’m sure they do. I’m sure they would at Austin Peay because that’s how he coaches. But there are a ton of good coaches that can do that … with a more proven track record.


I’m happy he went here, but he got the job because he went here.

I also believe that the NIL factor is real …. And i understand why GMac draws the most NIL cash from the donor base … I get all the reasons.

Based on some reactions here GMac is the best choice for the general fan base, which I get it too.

GMac probably offers the most ROI for the admin for the immediate future. Donor support + ticket sales + higher general fan interest + easy espn/media headlines…..it may not look good initially on the court but the general vibes will be good .

Hodgson would probably be met with less excitement overall by the fanbase than GMac will. Based on posts here by people who would know …. The donor support wasn’t quite there for BH. Easy to see how that leads to less excitement in the general fan base.

I just don’t think the best choice was made for the basketball product on the court. It seemed like the emphasis was what the drive the most initial revenue
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Hodgson had two more years H/C than GMac that’s it. It wasn’t Wooden, look at KU. It’s all a crap shoot. GMac will be fine. Root for you team or go away.
 
2B20Again said:
Hodgson had two more years H/C than GMac that’s it. It wasn’t Wooden, look at KU. It’s all a crap shoot. GMac will be fine. Root for you team or go away.
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"Root for you team or go away"

You can root for the team, while still acknowledging that Gerry was always going to get the role because of the ghosts of program past pulling the strings. Let's hope those ghosts don't drag the program to hell with them.
 
2B20Again said:
Hodgson had two more years H/C than GMac that’s it. It wasn’t Wooden, look at KU. It’s all a crap shoot. GMac will be fine. Root for you team or go away.
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When the Hodgson ship sailed, I was initially bummed, but was like "OK, not that big a deal..." after a day or 2.

I REALLY wanted Schertz tho, when it was reported he was in the final 2 with GMAC and we interviewed him last weds and offered... He was the best candidate, hands down.

The old man, of course, disagrees...

 
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HakAttack said:
Why is this so hard for people to accept?
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Perception vs reality. 95 pct on here get it and acknowledge the concerns both directions. The 5 pct get way too upset over posts leaning one direction or the other with this decision. The end game here is people want success. Who cares how we get there so long as it’s the outcome we want? That’s where I think is the best mental space to be with this. Those that want to lash out and bury themselves in a pool of anger and skepticism.. well there is ample time before the season starts to let it fly. Might as well use this forum to do so (within reason). Personally - I’ve spent the last two years disinterested. I’m above neutral optimistic at the moment but should things not go well again it’s not going to be a major shift of any degree instead back to finding other sports and hobbies to spend some of my time on like the past 2 years.
 

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