31-0

[CuseFan]

No matter how you get there, 31-0 is impressive.
Always going to have some luck involved, but never losing is amazing. Good for the Hawks.

 

[jncuse]

In one way I hope Miami wins their conference tourney. Undefeated teams heading to the tourney are always great stories, no matter how, since its pretty darn rare.

But on the other hand, Miami losing would create chaos related to bubble discussion. And I'm always here for that.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

UMass 87, Miami 83..

 

[ar inj]

UMass 87, Miami 83..

They lost to a team from the Big10?

 

[cusefan88]

10 or 11 seed for them?

 

[HyattsCuse]

That sound you hear is the bubble popping for an unlucky P4 team.

 

[Cappy3]

10 or 11 seed for them?

Not sure they deserve to get in. They were 54in the NET before today, and 26of their wins were Q3 or 4. Maybe sneak into the play-in games.

 

[UpstateSM]

UMass outright in Cleveland Thursday morning, unfortunately.

It was always my Minutemen

 

[upperdeck]

I would much rather have a team thats 54th and 31-0 then a team thats 45th and 22-10

 

[Charbroil]

Not sure they deserve to get in. They were 54in the NET before today, and 26of their wins were Q3 or 4. Maybe sneak into the play-in games.

I would prefer Miami get in over a team like Indiana or Auburn. But I agree a case can reasonably be made against them with how few decent wins they actually have.

 

[Cappy3]

I would much rather have a team thats 54th and 31-0 then a team thats 45th and 22-10

Not if the team that was22-10 was Syracuse. If they’re gonna use the NET then it has to mean something. They didn’t have a Q1 game and only 2 Q2. (3 wins vs non D1 opponents)

 

[Briancuse]

That sound you hear is the bubble popping for an unlucky P4 team.

See ya indiana and auburn.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

UMass 87, Miami 83..

A lot of folks called this one. They'll be one of the teams in the First Four now for sure.

 

[LAorange44]

Bye USF! Thanks for playing

 

[upperdeck]

Not if the team that was22-10 was Syracuse. If they’re gonna use the NET then it has to mean something. They didn’t have a Q1 game and only 2 Q2. (3 wins vs non D1 opponents)

I dont care.. I watched them a bunch of times. They play hard and they played pretty solid 31 times to win all the games. They are not one of the best 30-40 teams but they are also better then 10-20 teams that will get in on other criteria too.

the teams that lost 10-12 games might have a higher cieling but also played to a lower floor a few times. We have 68 teams, I think reward for a 31-0 schedule should also count.

 

[Cappy3]

I dont care.. I watched them a bunch of times. They play hard and they played pretty solid 31 times to win all the games. They are not one of the best 30-40 teams but they are also better then 10-20 teams that will get in on other criteria too.

the teams that lost 10-12 games might have a higher cieling but also played to a lower floor a few times. We have 68 teams, I think reward for a 31-0 schedule should also count.

If the idea is to have a national championship tournament, then at large bids should, imho, go to teams with a high ceiling. It’s really not a “make them feel good” tournament.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

If the idea is to have a national championship tournament, then at large bids should, imho, go to teams with a high ceiling. It’s really not a “make them feel good” tournament.

How does one determine a "high ceiling" team?

Auburn hasn't put together 2 Ws in a row since January and are 3-8 in their last 11. Indiana is 1-6 in their last 7 games. Neither of those 2 teams are capable of a Sweet 16 run.

Can they pull off an upset in one game? Yes, but that then throws the entire tournament off kilter. Which is bad for crowning a Champ. Upsets are fun in week 1 but not for putting together good week 4 matchups. Also upsets don't feel the same when it is a P4 team verses a Cinderella.

Miami has been really struggling down the stretch. Does this loss release that pressure and make them a team that can make an NCAAT run? Or will it be like 2014 for SU where we had nothing left after losing? Or to put it another way, were all of those games close because of pressure or because they aren't that good?

 

[upperdeck]

all the metrics say 4-6 teams will win. the other 60+ maybe 3-4 could win. 40 teams have zero chance most year so why worry about it. its not like they are a 100+ level team in a bad conf either.

 

[jncuse]

Under the RPI, a typical "Miami Ohio" team (Q3) was a team that you wanted to schedule, as that level of team was good for the RPI.

Under the NET, a typical "Miami Ohio" team (Q3) is one that you try really hard to avoid if you are a P4.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Bye USF! Thanks for playing

I take it you'll be rooting for LIU? Couldn't find any tourney teams called the guppies.

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www.liuathletics.com

 

[RF2044]

I dont care.. I watched them a bunch of times. They play hard and they played pretty solid 31 times to win all the games. They are not one of the best 30-40 teams but they are also better then 10-20 teams that will get in on other criteria too.

the teams that lost 10-12 games might have a higher cieling but also played to a lower floor a few times. We have 68 teams, I think reward for a 31-0 schedule should also count.

I can't wrap my head around anybody looking at a 31-1 team and arguring that they don't belong in the NCAA tournament.

 

[Cappy3]

I can't wrap my head around anybody looking at a 31-1 team and arguring that they don't belong in the NCAA tournament.

Can you wrap your ahead around the fact that their strength of schedule was 340 out of 354 D1 teams? And 29 of the 31 wins were eitherQ4 or non D1? Sorry, but that kind of schedule just doesn’t rate with me. Maybe, if they’re gonna use actually played someone in the non-conference I’d feel different. But then they probably wouldn’t be 31-1.

 

[jncuse]

Can you wrap your ahead around the fact that their strength of schedule was 340 out of 354 D1 teams? And 29 of the 31 wins were eitherQ4 or non D1? Sorry, but that kind of schedule just doesn’t rate with me. Maybe, if they’re gonna use actually played someone in the non-conference I’d feel different. But then they probably wouldn’t be 31-1.

Are you also going to punish the P4+BE schools who are advised by their conferences to not schedule teams the caliber of Miami (typically Q3 level school rom year to year), and load up on bottom half Q4 schools?

For NET purposes, P4 OOC schedules are generally matchups against other P4, and then against the worst of college basketball.

Could Miami have scheduled harder... Probably could have some other better mid-major/low-major programs of similar caliber. And they probably wouldn't be 31-0 either.

But its hard for schools of this level to schedule P4 teams, because Miami is most likely on a list of schools that conferences advise not to schedule, for NET purposes.

 

[Cappy3]

Are you also going to punish the P4+BE schools who are advised by their conferences to not schedule teams the caliber of Miami (typically Q3 level school rom year to year), and load up on bottom half Q4 schools?

For NET purposes, P4 OOC schedules are generally matchups against each other, and then against the worse of college basketball.

Agree that too many P4 schools do that. But almost every other school in the MAC managed to find a couple Q1 or 2 games, so it certainly wasn’t impossible.

 

[Orangezoo]

Bye USF! Thanks for playing

Get your dates a little mixed up their el trollo?