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Wanting an actual good PG to play has become we want the greatest NBA prospect.
No but the way some board members idolize someone who was a good player (not great) is a little bit over the top. PG is critically important and to think a coach who lives and breaths Syracuse would not know what was best for his team is silly.

Your partner in crime zone wasn’t even impressed with him as a recruit because he was only ranked 101.
 
No but the way some board members idolize someone who was a good player (not great) is a little bit over the top. PG is critically important and to think a coach who lives and breaths Syracuse would not know what was best for his team is silly.

Your partner in crime zone wasn’t even impressed with him as a recruit because he was only ranked 101.
I don’t idolize anyone.
This team has needed good PG play since Gbinije and Really Ennjs.

We had one last year in Kadary that made fans actually excited because that is the type of player that when developed can lead you a long way.
Instead he had to play less because of reasons.
Who was playing better didn’t matter for one of the few times in the JB era.
 
No but the way some board members idolize someone who was a good player (not great) is a little bit over the top. PG is critically important and to think a coach who lives and breaths Syracuse would not know what was best for his team is silly.

Your partner in crime zone wasn’t even impressed with him as a recruit because he was only ranked 101.
Well you’re wrong, my opinion of Kadary as a recruit had nothing to do with his ranking and it was more about his shooting ability. He also showed a lot more in year one here than a lot of people expected.

It’s funny that you attack someone for changing their opinion based on evidence, didn’t realize being stubborn was a good quality when evaluating players.
 
I don’t idolize anyone.
This team has needed good PG play since Gbinije and Really Ennjs.

We had one last year in Kadary that made fans actually excited because that is the type of player that when developed can lead you a long way.
Instead he had to play less because of reasons.
Who was playing better didn’t matter for one of the few times in the JB era.
I don’t think you idolize anyone. I think there is more that goes into team building than just putting in a player (no matter how talented) and say play the way you want and don’t listen to me. I think we can agree that Kadary wanted to ply different than he was allowed. More went into the minutes distribution (27 for Girard and 21 for KR) than Jimmy being mean or wanting to sabotage his team.
Cuse!
 
I don’t idolize anyone.
This team has needed good PG play since Gbinije and Really Ennjs.

We had one last year in Kadary that made fans actually excited because that is the type of player that when developed can lead you a long way.
Instead he had to play less because of reasons.
Who was playing better didn’t matter for one of the few times in the JB era.
It seems to be a more recent thing, JB has always played the better players, I was on the Gillon train early on playing him over Frank, unfortunately it was too late after the switch was finally made.
 
I don’t think you idolize anyone. I think there is more that goes into team building than just putting in a player (no matter how talented) and say play the way you want and don’t listen to me. I think we can agree that Kadary wanted to ply different than he was allowed. More went into the minutes distribution (27 for Girard and 21 for KR) than Jimmy being mean or wanting to sabotage his team.
Cuse!
Find me one shred of evidence that shows you that Joe should play more than Kadary other than (coach would never sabotage the team!) and I’ll never post on this forum again.
 
Well you’re wrong, my opinion of Kadary as a recruit had nothing to do with his ranking and it was more about his shooting ability. He also showed a lot more in year one here than a lot of people expected.

It’s funny that you attack someone for changing their opinion based on evidence, didn’t realize being stubborn was a good quality evaluating players.
No, changing your opinion based on what you see is all good. Kadary was good and could have been very good here. He also started earning more time and still wasn’t happy. things weren’t going to work out unless he got more and free reign. Jimmy has had much better players over time and they do not dictate terms to him.

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Find me one shred of evidence that shows you that Joe should play more than Kadary other than (coach would never sabotage the team!) and I’ll never post on this forum again.
Every time someone makes these arguments like butterball is making, I want to post that amazing play joe had dribbling backwards and taking that ridiculous shot from 10’ behind the three
 
Find me one shred of evidence that shows you that Joe should play more than Kadary other than (coach would never sabotage the team!) and I’ll never post on this forum again.
If K bought into what coach wanted I think he would have played more than Joe through end of the season (as he was during a stretch). If he agreed to listen and be coached and bought in I think he would have played more this season too and eventually started. Unfortunately he didn’t want to do those things and wanted “freedom”. He should get that at his new home and we can all bear witness to how that works for him and more importantly the team.
Cuse
 
Every time someone makes these arguments like butterball is making, I want to post that amazing play joe had dribbling backwards and taking that ridiculous shot from 10’ behind the three
Cute way to add nothing to the messages.
 
No, changing your opinion based on what you see is all good. Kadary was good and could have been very good here. He also started earning more time and still wasn’t happy. things weren’t going to work out unless he got more and free reign. Jimmy has had much better players over time and they do not dictate terms to him.

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He got more time, but he should’ve gotten more. I would’ve left too, I saw Kadary ripped by coach for things he didn’t even do. We’d be down, he’d come in and get us back just to see the lead he built us go away.

EVERY game the fan base was begging for Kadary to start the second half. This isn’t for any other reason than it’s painfully obvious that he made the team better.

He’s gone, I’m bitter about it, I think he is the best point guard I’ve seen in orange since mcw, I don’t root for Syracuse any less, but it makes me question our coach who’ve I’ve never called to be fired, never demanded his retirement and have only questioned him because a lot of what I’ve learned about basketball is by what he has done and what he has done to be successful, he isn’t doing the same things and the success isn’t following, why can’t I question him?
 
It won't be long until the only way to win is cater to every good player like they are getting a max contract to come to your school.

I get it with Kadary and his being the better talent but I'm so sick of it being the generation itself demanding they get their arses wiped, shoes tied and ego stoked while all along ensuring that they here as few "No's" as possible.

Sure the old guard goes too far the other direction but it feels way too much like the argument is to give them whatever they want.
 
If K bought into what coach wanted I think he would have played more than Joe through end of the season (as he was during a stretch). If he agreed to listen and be coached and bought in I think he would have played more this season too and eventually started. Unfortunately he didn’t want to do those things and wanted “freedom”. He should get that at his new home and we can all bear witness to how that works for him and more importantly the team.
Cuse
I hate this post.
People on here rip people who question the HC and then we get fans who do this.
You have no clue Kadary was the issue and wasn’t coachable.


The kid was always being put in to clean up deficits and the team getting better.
But he wasn’t accepting coaching.
Not he was playing better than the other guy and being held to a different standard it’s the kid was the problem.

JB WENT OUT OF HIS WAY AFTER THE BC game to rip Kadary.
He would never do that with Joe but the kid was the problem.
 
If K bought into what coach wanted I think he would have played more than Joe through end of the season (as he was during a stretch). If he agreed to listen and be coached and bought in I think he would have played more this season too and eventually started. Unfortunately he didn’t want to do those things and wanted “freedom”. He should get that at his new home and we can all bear witness to how that works for him and more importantly the team.
Cuse
When a lesser player has that freedom with no consequences and plays ahead of you why is it bad Kadary wants the same respect? Even with freedom I don’t see Kadary jacking up 5 second into the shot clock 38 footers.
 
Cute way to add nothing to the messages.
We’ll see when both teams start playing. If you are trying to say you are confident in our PG play this year, you’re either lying or you don’t know jack about basketball despite your lazy handle.

And speaking of lazy, I’m sick and tired of your lazy and weak argument about KR wanting free reign. In case you didn’t realize what that actually means, it involves him making great passes to guys when they can actually do something with the ball. Or attacking the hoop getting by nearly every defender we saw last year. The same cannot be said for a remaining starting PG
 
It won't be long until the only way to win is cater to every good player like they are getting a max contract to come to your school.

I get it with Kadary and his being the better talent but I'm so sick of it being the generation itself demanding they get their arses wiped, shoes tied and ego stoked while all along ensuring that they here as few "No's" as possible.

Sure the old guard goes too far the other direction but it feels way too much like the argument is to give them whatever they want.
Not at all. Play the best players. No one can convince me that JB wasn’t being stubborn about the pg situation last year
 
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