Bear DownMy son (an Arizona Wildcat) and are are constantly jockeying for whose school feels more screwed in the Conference alignment cluster.
He's leading now, although i gotta think Arizona will find a way somewhere
It would be fascinating our schedule if the GOR didn’t exist.Gee i wish we didn't have a GOR
George waited too long and tried to leverage when he had zero leverage. Deal fatigue is never good. In a Declining market its usually death. Maybe he has an ace up his sleeve but all signs point to the pac Commissioner having badly misjudged the market and the timing of this deal.I don't get it.
Colorado doesn't move the needle to make the B12 schools richer. If no other P10 teams come along, it does nothing to kill off the P10. So why add Colorado now? Also you are diluting both the current FB and current BBall product.
Unless the TV contract is total crap, why would Colorado leave now? The B12 is something you settle on, not what you want. What is the benefit of leaving now when there will be a spot later should the P10 ever collapse.
If no other P10 teams come, then you gotta think UConn is the other team. So the B12 thinks adding what will be the worst P5 FB program to a conference that already has the current worst P5 FB program is a money maker?
BBall isn't a money maker. The Big East wasn't set to get a big TV contract. Nobody has wanted Kansas in expansion. How does making FB significantly worse going to get the B12 more money?
Heck Temple IMO is a better add and they are about 40 mins closer to Times Square than UConn. I am in CT pretty often and I see less UConn gear in comparison to RU gear in NJ, which I am also in pretty often.
Having one county in the NY TV market does not mean you are in NYC. Ask the B16. And I bet Kansas will want an MSG game and not Hartford, like what we saw with RU home games. If the B12 thinks UConn is anywhere near NYC, they are gravely mistaken. Good luck flying into NYC airports and driving to the Rent.
This won't impact our FB program much. UConn FB brand still stinks. They still have no fans. Even if they get 35k per game that is still one of the worst P5 programs, and that is about double their 4 year avg. They have no local recruits. The Northeast recruits are in NJ and PA. They have no incentive to go all the way to Storrs. UConn will be the least desirable Northeastern P5 FB program for recruits. Being in the B12 with no road games nearby won't change that.
The Pac problem that underlies all of them is arrogance based on having sold out the Rose Bowl to the BT and assuming that would forever make the pac a super league adored by many. But the realities of PST are stronger.George waited too long and tried to leverage when he had zero leverage. Deal fatigue is never good. In a Declining market its usually death. Maybe he has an ace up his sleeve but all signs point to the pac Commissioner having badly misjudged the market and the timing of this deal.
The ACC cannot afford to add any dead weight, and dead weight is determined by TV drawing power. Colorado, Washington State and Oregon St would all be dead weight to the ACC. So would SDSU. The other 7 could be a west coast branch of the ACC with some value. But would that value be enough to the ACC to bother with it? We do need to learn that answer quickly in case it could help the ACC.It would be funny if the ACC took all but Washington State and Oregon State leaving an open slot. To fill that spot the ACC takes San Diego State, which would have been Colorado.
I think the ACC is in very good shape at this point. The Big 12 commish is all hot air. Big twelve basketball in Mexico, Houston is Mexico's team. I give him credit for being proactive, but his league reminds me of a Greek diner. ACC needs to sit tight and play the long game.
I think thats part of the problem. Adding new schools I believe voids the GOR and requires it to be renegotiated, which makes it easier for Clemson and others to walk. But not adding the schools leaves them feeling they arent getting enough $ and makes them want to leave anyway. So it's a catch 22.I'm curious if the ACC adds any schools if it would force a change to the GOR and give loopholes to any school that would want to leave?
I think the ACC is in very good shape at this point. The Big 12 commish is all hot air. Big twelve basketball in Mexico, Houston is Mexico's team. I give him credit for being proactive, but his league reminds me of a Greek diner. ACC needs to sit tight and play the long game.
Adding a school would be based on the agreement and would not affect the GORI'm curious if the ACC adds any schools if it would force a change to the GOR and give loopholes to any school that would want to leave?
I think thats part of the problem. Adding new schools I believe voids the GOR and requires it to be renegotiated, which makes it easier for Clemson and others to walk. But not adding the schools leaves them feeling they arent getting enough $ and makes them want to leave anyway. So it's a catch 22.
Adding a school would be based on the agreement and would not affect the GOR
I would think the GOR has provisions in it to add without it trigginerg a mass exodus. The thing was well written considering no one has leftBut don't you think any school that wants an earlier option to leave wouldn't try to decrease years or have an early out negotiation to vote yes?
Any member has three options. One asks for special consideration for a yes vote. Two Vote yes or no. Three abstain from voting.But don't you think any school that wants an earlier option to leave wouldn't try to decrease years or have an early out negotiation to vote yes?
Not sure a mass run to the Big 12 is a good thing for us. It's like we're on the Titanic, and the only lifeboat available to us, has its seats filling up fast.
I think the ACC is in very good shape at this point. The Big 12 commish is all hot air. Big twelve basketball in Mexico, Houston is Mexico's team. I give him credit for being proactive, but his league reminds me of a Greek diner. ACC needs to sit tight and play the long game.
I think thats part of the problem. Adding new schools I believe voids the GOR and requires it to be renegotiated, which makes it easier for Clemson and others to walk. But not adding the schools leaves them feeling they arent getting enough $ and makes them want to leave anyway. So it's a catch 22.
All incoming schools to the ACC would have to sign the existing GOR.Adding a school would be based on the agreement and would not affect the GOR