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ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

HRE Otto IV said:
The only was you get the B1G/SEC to the table is if you create a system that 1. heavily favors the major teams and 2. favors the rest of the B1G/SEC.

If you break off to a new sub division that has 9 conferences of 10 teams maybe go with...

45% of Tier 1 money goes to each conference evenly
36% of Tier 1 money is divided by number of games on Tier 1 your conference played
18% of Tier 1 money is divided by number of games on Tier 1 your school played

For example...

Tier 1 (network TV) contract is $2.5B
-each conference gets $125M, so each school $12.5M
-SEC is on the most where each school gets $37.5M ($50M total)
-Bama is on the most where they get an additional $30M ($80M total) while Mississippi State is never on and only gets $50M and the AAC is never on so those schools only get $12.5M.

Then do the same with Tier 2 (cable TV), Tier 3 (streaming), Tier 4 (conference networks), and the playoffs.

I would sell games at 12-2-4-6-8-10 on Tier 1 then 12-2-4-6-8-10 on Tier 2 then 12-2-4-6-8-10 on Tier 3 and the rest on the conference networks (3 games each).

So maybe FOX gets the 12 and 10, ABC the 2 and 6, CBS the 4, and NBC the 8.

ESPN/2 the 12/4/8 and FS1 the 2/6/10

Peacock 12/4/8 and ESPN+ 2/6/10

Conference networks 12/4/8 (PAC would be 2/6/10)

Under this system Bama would get a lot more money than the other SEC teams. The SEC teams would get a lot more money than the non SEC teams. Similar for the B1G.


Otherwise you need the B1G and SEC to come together and agree to expand to 30 teams each and break away. Where the B1G is the NFC and the SEC is the AFC.

Those silly proposals where the B1G and SEC are not involved are DOA.
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agree. There's no reason for the SEC and Big Ten to give up anything right now when they have a better deal than everyone else.

Unfortunately I dont see any fix unless the schools in the ACC and Big 12 agree to never play the other schools and shut them out of the media markets where we exist...but not sure that is even feasible given their footprints and how it all works.
 
OrangeXtreme said:
And all our games will be on The CW and Tru-TV.
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Cool. I get both of those.

If the fans of all the other teams left behind don't watch the B1G/SEC, ratings would be so bad they wouldn't major TV contracts for long either. The problem is sports fans are addicts.
 
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longtimefan said:
The results of this season's ACC/SEC Basketball Challenge are not a positive indicator.
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Big Football Money is MUCH bigger than big basketball money. Basketball Power is impotent before Football Power. Either the ACC gets better football rather quickly, along with better TV ratings for football, or ACC basketball will keep slipping as the SEC climbs.
 
longtimefan said:
The point is, the SEC appears to have figured out the Brave New World of NIL/portal, and that works in every sport.
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It works in every sport, yes.

But the results in the SEC/ACC Challenge matter not an iota. It's a money issue. And football drives the bu$, with basketball far back in the rear-view mirror
 
HRE Otto IV said:
The only was you get the B1G/SEC to the table is if you create a system that 1. heavily favors the major teams and 2. favors the rest of the B1G/SEC.

If you break off to a new sub division that has 9 conferences of 10 teams maybe go with...

45% of Tier 1 money goes to each conference evenly
36% of Tier 1 money is divided by number of games on Tier 1 your conference played
18% of Tier 1 money is divided by number of games on Tier 1 your school played

For example...

Tier 1 (network TV) contract is $2.5B
-each conference gets $125M, so each school $12.5M
-SEC is on the most where each school gets $37.5M ($50M total)
-Bama is on the most where they get an additional $30M ($80M total) while Mississippi State is never on and only gets $50M and the AAC is never on so those schools only get $12.5M.

Then do the same with Tier 2 (cable TV), Tier 3 (streaming), Tier 4 (conference networks), and the playoffs.

I would sell games at 12-2-4-6-8-10 on Tier 1 then 12-2-4-6-8-10 on Tier 2 then 12-2-4-6-8-10 on Tier 3 and the rest on the conference networks (3 games each).

So maybe FOX gets the 12 and 10, ABC the 2 and 6, CBS the 4, and NBC the 8.

ESPN/2 the 12/4/8 and FS1 the 2/6/10

Peacock 12/4/8 and ESPN+ 2/6/10

Conference networks 12/4/8 (PAC would be 2/6/10)

Under this system Bama would get a lot more money than the other SEC teams. The SEC teams would get a lot more money than the non SEC teams. Similar for the B1G.


Otherwise you need the B1G and SEC to come together and agree to expand to 30 teams each and break away. Where the B1G is the NFC and the SEC is the AFC.

Those silly proposals where the B1G and SEC are not involved are DOA.
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until you come up with a system where the SEC is the AFC and the B1G is the NFC, please stop wasting bandwidth.
 
orange79 said:
It works in every sport, yes.

But the results in the SEC/ACC Challenge matter not an iota. It's a money issue. And football drives the bu$, with basketball far back in the rear-view mirror
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It doesn't matter in that in itself it doesn't influence anything. What it is, is a reflection of how the football money has allowed traditional football schools to use their money to elevate basketball which further strengthens their brands as athletic departments.
 
orange79 said:
It works in every sport, yes.

But the results in the SEC/ACC Challenge matter not an iota. It's a money issue. And football drives the bu$, with basketball far back in the rear-view mirror
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Football generates the money, some of which appears to have been plowed back into other sports. And the SEC is doing well in the sports that they prioritize (after football), I.e. basketball and baseball. Thus, the 14-2 result may be a harbinger of problems ahead for the non-behemoth leagues.
 
sufandu said:
Cool. I get both of those.

If the fans of all the other teams left behind don't watch the B1G/SEC, ratings would be so bad they wouldn't major TV contracts for long either. The problem is sports fans are addicts.
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That's just not going to happen. Especially with gambling so easy and legal now in so many states
 
Stern said:
That's just not going to happen. Especially with gambling so easy and legal now in so many states
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I know it won't. As I said, sports fans are addicts. So any non-SEC/B1G fan that is complaining has nobody but themselves to blame.

Fwiw, I watched no B1G or SEC games this year that didn't also involve an ACC team for more than a few seconds.
 
sufandu said:
I know it won't. As I said, sports fans are addicts. So any non-SEC/B1G fan that is complaining has nobody but themselves to blame.

Fwiw, I watched no B1G or SEC games this year that didn't also involve an ACC team for more than a few seconds.
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Me either. I only watched ACC games, no matter how crappy they were. I even leave ACC Network on during the day while I’m at work for the dogs to watch
 
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