ACC Power rankings from ESPN

[upperdeck]

1. FSU
2. Clemson
3. Duke
4. VT
5. Miami
6. GT
7. UNC
8. SU
9. BC
10. Mary
11. Pitt
12. Wake
13. NC st
14. Virginia

Dont really see that its far off.. only our loss to Pitt stop it from being a clean sweap for us of the bottom feeders.

Minn got slotted 5th in the B10.. I think they would be slotted just ahead of SU in the ACC list but probably SU would be 9th in the B10 list so this game is pretty even, even if the punsters dont think so..

 

[Trueblue25]

Unc Tech and Duke.

 

[KaiserUEO]

and beating pitt likely gets us to 7.

and then add beating either nw or the ped st nambla lions, it likely still keeps us at 7.

thats a football conference kids.

 

[MnGo4]

1. FSU
2. Clemson
3. Duke
4. VT
5. Miami
6. GT
7. UNC
8. SU
9. BC
10. Mary
11. Pitt
12. Wake
13. NC st
14. Virginia

Dont really see that its far off.. only our loss to Pitt stop it from being a clean sweap for us of the bottom feeders.

Minn got slotted 5th in the B10.. I think they would be slotted just ahead of SU in the ACC list but probably SU would be 9th in the B10 list so this game is pretty even, even if the punsters dont think so..

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

 

[JoeSU]

I think if anyone had predicted these rankings back in August, we would have taken it in a heartbeat.

FYI, ESPN's pre-season rankings projected us as 11th (just ahead of Duke). A good example of why folks shouldn't get all worked-up over some sportswriter's pre-season prediction.

 

[KaiserUEO]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

minny is not better than miami, there sport.

and i dont think theyre better than gatech either.

but in an effort to be civil, ill give you minny is better than unc.

so 7th.

 

[Moontan]

At least one fan base is going to be very disappointed at the conclusion of this game.

 

[sabach]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

Dude, you are a University of Minnesota football fan. Do you realize that?

 

[Alsacs]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

First off transitive property crap doesn't apply in sports. Michigan State beat Ohio State, Notre Dame beat Michigan State, Pittsburgh beat Notre Dame, therefore Pittsburgh is better than Michigan State? I guess Pitt playing their best and Michigan State playing their worst means Pitt is better.

Minnesota beat NW without NW having Cain Colter playing QB or Venric Mack playing RB who are only two of their top 3 players on offense as we can tell you. Second, you beat Penn State at home and we lost to Penn State at a neutral site with a different starting QB then we won our 6 games with. Minnesota would be 7th or 8th in the ACC.
Florida State, Clemson house you. Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Virginia Tech all beat you. Then your competing with North Carolina, Syracuse, Boston College, Maryland, Pittsburgh. Stop trolling you had a good season, but you beat 4 scrubs non-conference teams, NW without Cain Colter or Mack, Penn State, Nebraska, Indiana at home.

 

[dasher]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

both games were not close. Except we lost by 6 to penn state and had the ball at the end of the game. Obviously you didn't watch the game. We also changed qb's after our second game. We heard the same crap from you guys before our hoop game just weeks ago.

 

[marz09cuse]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

Not arguing that the results against Penn State and Northwestern weren't disappointing, but losing by 6 does not exactly qualify as the game not being close. And I think it's already been said multiple times, but in case you missed it, the Northwestern team Syracuse played early in the season was a completely different team by the time Minnesota played them mid season. So congrats on a beating that team by 3.

But comparing these common opponents is about as irrelevant as your entire major sports program, especially when you consider Syracuse was starting a different QB the first couple games of the season, including against Penn State.

No doubt Syracuse has to play well to win, but who doesn't in a bowl game? But it certainly won't take Minnesota playing their "worst" to lose this one. And if you do happen to play your worst game of the year, it probably won't be close, just not by your definition of not close.

 

[orangeinjersey]

minny is not better than miami, there sport.

and i dont think theyre better than gatech either.

but in an effort to be civil, ill give you minny is better than unc.

so 7th.

I just saw Gatsby a few weeks ago, whenever I read the word "sport" now, I always read it back with Dicaprios accent in the movie lol

 

[OrangePA]

Man would I like that Pitt game back.

Still can't believe we gave that one away.

 

[007]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

Any chance you are from New Jersey? Is your first name "Al" ?

 

[retro44]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

go over to the rutgirls board and talk smack, but over here your just a as$clown

 

[MarcusPitt]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

A board member earlier said that this game is looking like west virginia 2.0. I couldnt agree more! Most wv guys as well as most the guys on the gopher boards have their team winning by 3 td's. These teams are very evenly matched. This could be one of the better bowls to watch when all is said and done! If the same Syracuse team takes the field that beat bc,we win this game. My gut feeling is that this team grew up that day. A very confident team will be headed to Texas...

 

[GoSU96]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

Stats bear what out? That Minnesota got half of their total rushing against four teams ranked 106th or worse in rushing defense. Or that Minnesota averaged 98 yds per game against 4 top 30 rushing defenses, which SU is one of.

Talking about getting run over. SU gave up 57 yds rushing to PSU, Minnesota 190.

How about them stats?

 

[upperdeck]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

I suppose in your world where losing 23-17 is not close then yeah I can see what you are saying.. I was basing my logic on what I figured the betting odds would be and Minn would not be favored over any of those teams ahead of SU in the ACC. Sagarin ratings put you in that same spot. To be honest UNC is the 3rd best team in the ACC by talent but they didnt play that way early in the season.

I saw Minn play 5-6 times this year how many Su games did you watch?

 

[MnGo4]

I suppose in your world where losing 23-17 is not close then yeah I can see what you are saying.. I was basing my logic on what I figured the betting odds would be and Minn would not be favored over any of those teams ahead of SU in the ACC. Sagarin ratings put you in that same spot. To be honest UNC is the 3rd best team in the ACC by talent but they didnt play that way early in the season.

I saw Minn play 5-6 times this year how many Su games did you watch?

I saw SU play three games and that's all I need to know about Orange Football. I saw Georgia Tech (ahem). But a good indicator is common opponents. I won't keep harping on the fact that we beat NW and PSU and SU did not. Let's go on the Stats:

Total Yards: You allowed NW to run up 581 yards while we only allowed 348 (it was an away game for us). Penn State, it was a dead heat: 353 and 353.

I was also at the SU at Minn game last year. We made Nassib look terrible. Broyles didn't play well either, and I see he has underwhelmed this year.

Different coaches Marrone & Shafer, but I'm sure the "Defensive Hack Mentality" has remained. By Hack, I mean dirty. Syracuse was the dirtiest team we played last year with the exception of Texas Tech. We can handle that and it will just rack up penalty yards (which I see you being over-achievers in).

 

[NashvilleOrange]

I saw SU play three games and that's all I need to know about Orange Football. I saw Georgia Tech (ahem). But a good indicator is common opponents. I won't keep harping on the fact that we beat NW and PSU and SU did not. Let's go on the Stats:

Total Yards: You allowed NW to run up 581 yards while we only allowed 348 (it was an away game for us). Penn State, it was a dead heat: 353 and 353.

I was also at the SU at Minn game last year. We made Nassib look terrible. Broyles didn't play well either, and I see he has underwhelmed this year.

Different coaches Marrone & Shafer, but I'm sure the "Defensive Hack Mentality" has remained. By Hack, I mean dirty. Syracuse was the dirtiest team we played last year with the exception of Texas Tech. We can handle that and it will just rack up penalty yards (which I see you being over-achievers in).

You saw the GT game and you would still rank your program with a grand total of 0 impressive wins ahead of them and in the ACC top 5? Gotcha.

 

[GoSU96]

I saw SU play three games and that's all I need to know about Orange Football. I saw Georgia Tech (ahem). But a good indicator is common opponents. I won't keep harping on the fact that we beat NW and PSU and SU did not. Let's go on the Stats:

Total Yards: You allowed NW to run up 581 yards while we only allowed 348 (it was an away game for us). Penn State, it was a dead heat: 353 and 353.

I was also at the SU at Minn game last year. We made Nassib look terrible. Broyles didn't play well either, and I see he has underwhelmed this year.

Different coaches Marrone & Shafer, but I'm sure the "Defensive Hack Mentality" has remained. By Hack, I mean dirty. Syracuse was the dirtiest team we played last year with the exception of Texas Tech. We can handle that and it will just rack up penalty yards (which I see you being over-achievers in).

The game last year, you mean the one where the vaunted Minnesota run game went for 106 yds and 2.6 yds per carry, that game?

How about these stats, Minnesota is ranked 52nd in run defense. SU played the 47th (Maryland), BC (50th), 51 (Clemson) ranked run defenses and gained 242, 210 and 323 yds.

The 11 D1A opponents SU played this year were ranked 79th or better on run defense. SU gained 200 or more in 5 of those 11 games.

7 of Minnesota's 11 D1A opponents were in the above range, the other 4 were 106th or less. Minnesota went over 200 once in those 7 games.

 

[MnGo4]

The game last year, you mean the one where the vaunted Minnesota run game went for 106 yds and 2.6 yds per carry, that game?

How about these stats, Minnesota is ranked 52nd in run defense. SU played the 47th (Maryland), BC (50th), 51 (Clemson) ranked run defenses and gained 242, 210 and 323 yds.

The 11 D1A opponents SU played this year were ranked 79th or better on run defense. SU gained 200 or more in 5 of those 11 games.

7 of Minnesota's 11 D1A opponents were in the above range, the other 4 were 106th or less. Minnesota went over 200 once in those 7 games.

This is good stuff. You did have an answer to our running game last year...that is true. It won't happen again this year.

 

[GoSU96]

This is good stuff. You did have an answer to our running game last year...that is true. It won't happen again this year.

Based on what? You guys went 98 yds per against comparable run defenses.

 

[tep624]

Minnesota has fans?

 

[MnGo4]

Based on what? You guys went 98 yds per against comparable run defenses.

Our last game: Michigan State. They have the best run defense in the nation. In 13 games they gave up an average of 80 yards per game. Minn put up 124 yards. Not a lot, but 50% more than the rest. Point being - if we can run against Michigan State, we can against anyone.