ACC Power rankings from ESPN

[RMH44]

I saw SU play three games and that's all I need to know about Orange Football. I saw Georgia Tech (ahem). But a good indicator is common opponents. I won't keep harping on the fact that we beat NW and PSU and SU did not. Let's go on the Stats:

Total Yards: You allowed NW to run up 581 yards while we only allowed 348 (it was an away game for us). Penn State, it was a dead heat: 353 and 353.

I was also at the SU at Minn game last year. We made Nassib look terrible. Broyles didn't play well either, and I see he has underwhelmed this year.

Different coaches Marrone & Shafer, but I'm sure the "Defensive Hack Mentality" has remained. By Hack, I mean dirty. Syracuse was the dirtiest team we played last year with the exception of Texas Tech. We can handle that and it will just rack up penalty yards (which I see you being over-achievers in).

Please explain to me how Syracuse's defense is "dirty". We're very physical but far from dirty.

 

[rrlbees]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close. I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

Minny would be a solid 10th in the ACC.

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[Delmar]

Enough stats already. Let's play the game. The team with the most points at the end wins.

 

[shandeezy7]

Our last game: Michigan State. They have the best run defense in the nation. In 13 games they gave up an average of 80 yards per game. Minn put up 124 yards. Not a lot, but 50% more than the rest. Point being - if we can run against Michigan State, we can against anyone.

124 yards at an eye-popping rate of 2.5 yards per carry. The Michigan State Defensive Coordinator must have laughed and laughed and laughed as he saw your RB's carry the ball 50 times to nowhere.

 

[upperdeck]

I saw SU play three games and that's all I need to know about Orange Football. I saw Georgia Tech (ahem). But a good indicator is common opponents. I won't keep harping on the fact that we beat NW and PSU and SU did not. Let's go on the Stats:

Total Yards: You allowed NW to run up 581 yards while we only allowed 348 (it was an away game for us). Penn State, it was a dead heat: 353 and 353.

I was also at the SU at Minn game last year. We made Nassib look terrible. Broyles didn't play well either, and I see he has underwhelmed this year.

Different coaches Marrone & Shafer, but I'm sure the "Defensive Hack Mentality" has remained. By Hack, I mean dirty. Syracuse was the dirtiest team we played last year with the exception of Texas Tech. We can handle that and it will just rack up penalty yards (which I see you being over-achievers in).

the game where Nassib threw for 70% and you were out gained even though we gave the ball away 4 times? I concede that if we turn it over 4 times Minn will win again.. What does penalties have to do with being dirty?

and convenient to forget you beat NW by 3 when they committed 3 more turnovers and played without their 2 best playmakers.. Colter did all the damage against us and he didnt play against you.

If we play like we did against GT we are in trouble ahainst almost anyone.

 

[bnoro]

Our last game: Michigan State. They have the best run defense in the nation. In 13 games they gave up an average of 80 yards per game. Minn put up 124 yards. Not a lot, but 50% more than the rest. Point being - if we can run against Michigan State, we can against anyone.

Because other teams were smarter and decided to stop trying to run while you guys ran 40 rushes for 125 yards... So impressive. Andre Williams was putting up similar numbers with 50 carries a game and faked his way into the heisman voting.

 

[PhatOrange]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

What I acknowledge is that Syracuse lost to Penn St by 6 points in their very first game after having been decimated by graduation and replacing an entire new coaching staff and new offense.

I also acknowledge that the Syracuse QB who started those games was a first year starter, threw 7 interceptions in those two games and then found himself benched for the rest of the year.

Finally, I acknowledge the Syracuse QB who replaced that starter led Syracuse to a 6-4 record after the 0-2 start.

Best game and Worse game??? You're high.

 

[rrlbees]

Our last game: Michigan State. They have the best run defense in the nation. In 13 games they gave up an average of 80 yards per game. Minn put up 124 yards. Not a lot, but 50% more than the rest. Point being - if we can run against Michigan State, we can against anyone.

Because your pass game is so poor you ran the ball about 100 times. Totals as stats can be misleading as yours were against MSU.

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[All4SU]

If SU is 8th in the ACC, most certainly Minnesota would be ranked in the top 5. The brutal truth - SU lost to Penn State (ranked 7th in the B1G) and Northwestern (Ranked 10th). Both games were not close.

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

I could see Minnesota being #6 in the ACC this year, but no higher. As for our two losses to PSU and NW, that was before we figured out who our QB was. This was especially significant in the PSU game, which was very close. Not sure where you got your information that it wasn't. Both teams struggled. Our QB at that time struggled mightily. And remember this was a almost completely new coaching staff, game 1 right out of the gate, and what was almost an away game.

Edit:
Oh crap, I responded to his post, and then started to read the rest of the thread and realized the guy is just an a$$wipe trying to mix things up. My apologies to the board for legitimizing his post.

 

[GoSU96]

Our last game: Michigan State. They have the best run defense in the nation. In 13 games they gave up an average of 80 yards per game. Minn put up 124 yards. Not a lot, but 50% more than the rest. Point being - if we can run against Michigan State, we can against anyone.

It was on 50 freaking carries. 2.5 yds per is not exactly being "run against".

SU went for 143 against FSU, nobody here is claiming that as a great accomplishment.

 

[irishredhomebrew]

Clemson fan here. You had better not sleep on Syracuse. When we played them, we put it to them the first half. HOWEVER, they came out in the second half in a game they did not have a serious chance of winning, and pretty much stopped us for the 3rd quarter, scored on us a few times (got close on another), and made it interesting for a bit.

The point I am making is that their run defense is much better than that score would indicate. They tightened things up as the season progressed, and deserve credit as a legitimate foe for you bowl game.

 

[Chip]

I realize rankings aren't the end-all, but you should at the very least acknowledge that beating the Gophers will take SU playing their best game and UMn playing their worst. Not only do the rankings bear this out, but the stats do as well. UMn ran all over Penn State and NW.

If you play your B game and we play our B game, someone is walking out of there with a 3 point win.

That's probably going to be hard for you, but from reading your posts it might be just the kind of intervention you need.

 

[CuseOnly]

I know that we turned the ball over in the red zone in the game we lost to you last year I think 3 times, outgained you all day and still only lost by 7 pts.

Funny thing is that if we shut down the run, like we always do, there is not much else that MN is good at cause you certainly can't pass the ball.

I am not sure how good your run defense is, but if you don't stop our running game, it will be a very, very long bowl game for you folks. See Pinstripe Bowl WVU 2012 Bowl game. They talked a lot of smack too as I recall and got pissed on like urinal puck.

Good luck to you.

 

[VaSaltine]

Man would I like that Pitt game back.

Still can't believe we gave that one away.

I hear ya, but I'm not sure we beat BC if we had won the Pitt game. Football is such an emotional game. If there's a game I could have back it's PSU. I think in the end it all worked out.

 

[Orangetradition44]

I'm with you. I don't know how we lost. We dominated Pitt and looked like the better team the whole game. That loss hurt.

Man would I like that Pitt game back. Still can't believe we gave that one away.

 

[Trueblue25]

Clemson fan here. You had better not sleep on Syracuse. When we played them, we put it to them the first half. HOWEVER, they came out in the second half in a game they did not have a serious chance of winning, and pretty much stopped us for the 3rd quarter, scored on us a few times (got close on another), and made it interesting for a bit.

The point I am making is that their run defense is much better than that score would indicate. They tightened things up as the season progressed, and deserve credit as a legitimate foe for you bowl game.

 

[skiumahski]

Because your pass game is so poor you ran the ball about 100 times. Totals as stats can be misleading as yours were against MSU.

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If my math is correct, SU played over 9 quarters or roughly 20% of the entire season down by at least 28 points. Yet your passing game is ranked a whopping 14 spots higher than ours. (102th vs. 116th) You must be trolling?

 

[rrlbees]

If my math is correct, SU played over 9 quarters or roughly 20% of the entire season down by at least 28 points. Yet your passing game is ranked a whopping 14 spots higher than ours. (102th vs. 116th) You must be trolling?

Yes, I'm trolling the board I admin. That's it genius. My comment was spot on to why you "think" you ran so well vs MSU. Like others said, 2.5 ypg sucks. And where did I, or anyone claim our passing game was wonderful? Much of those huge deficits came against teams that would do the same to you.

Run along whack a mole.

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[Cusefan95]

The thing I'm finding annoying about the Gopher fans that have shown up here is the complete lack of any ability to follow a logical train of thought. Minny beat NW, Cuse got blown out by NW...therefore Minny is far superior. NW having had their offense gutted by injuries by the time they played Minny is irrelevant. And they'll look at total yards in a game vs 2.5 yds/carry to show what a great running game they've got.

I have no idea who will win, the game is a toss-up kinda game...the only thing I'm certain of is that the Gopher internet fanbase is in the running for the least intellegent fanbase that has appeared on our boards. Considering we were stuck in a dumpster fire of a conference with Rutgers and UConn, that's honestly an impressive feat. It's like every MN fan is like SuperPurpleCat or the UCF lunatic (FutbolGuru?) from 15 years ago!

 

[Scooch]

Minnesota has fans?

Sure, the people of Lake Wobegon need something to do on Saturdays, don't ya know?

 

[Alsacs]

If my math is correct, SU played over 9 quarters or roughly 20% of the entire season down by at least 28 points. Yet your passing game is ranked a whopping 14 spots higher than ours. (102th vs. 116th) You must be trolling?

Which division is Minnesota in troll? I am not sure if your a Legend or a Leader,

 

[Millhouse]

It was on 50 freaking carries. 2.5 yds per is not exactly being "run against".

SU went for 143 against FSU, nobody here is claiming that as a great accomplishment.

we actually had a thread joking about our FSU rushing total

50 for 124, 3 points

why would any one from minnesota point to that game as evidence of doing anything well?

3.32 yards per play lol

 

[storange]

Mngo4 is a tool.

 

[sutomcat]

I saw SU play three games and that's all I need to know about Orange Football. I saw Georgia Tech (ahem). But a good indicator is common opponents. I won't keep harping on the fact that we beat NW and PSU and SU did not. Let's go on the Stats:

Total Yards: You allowed NW to run up 581 yards while we only allowed 348 (it was an away game for us). Penn State, it was a dead heat: 353 and 353.

I was also at the SU at Minn game last year. We made Nassib look terrible. Broyles didn't play well either, and I see he has underwhelmed this year.

Different coaches Marrone & Shafer, but I'm sure the "Defensive Hack Mentality" has remained. By Hack, I mean dirty. Syracuse was the dirtiest team we played last year with the exception of Texas Tech. We can handle that and it will just rack up penalty yards (which I see you being over-achievers in).

I have never heard the term 'defensive hack' before. Did you invent it? What is it supposed to mean?

 

[jekelish]

We have the only defense in America that has not given up a 100 yard game by any single RB all year, but I'm sure Minnesota is far better running the ball than every other team we played. Obviously. I mean, they averaged 2.5 yards per carry against Michigan State. If that doesn't tell you how dominant their run game is, nothing will.