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#2Is AW our biggest supporter?
#2Is AW our biggest supporter?
….. the agenda is the university foolishly pushed away its biggest donor during the nil era lolI don’t understand the agenda here on the part of Weitsman. He retweeted this garbage this morning. The divorce is final why not just shake hands and walk away? And I don’t understand the agenda of Adler other than to suck up to Weitsman. He is a SU alum and you would think he would not want to make University look bad any more than he already has by being Weitsman’s puppet. Quoting the attorney saying that Syracuse will have trouble competing without Weitsman does just that.
But make no mistake despite this bizarre war on Cuse, there are a lot of good people who love the program, are donating to SU and working hard on NIL to help Syracuse get back to where we need to be.
Wrong and right. He’s not their biggest donor.….. the agenda is the university foolishly pushed away its biggest donor during the nil are lol
That was based on some yearly lists. If you look at cumulative amounts, it’s different. Look at what the Lally’s did with one donation.#2
Ok a very important chess peice may I rebute lol everyone crying about personal gain blah blah blah. Yea he’s a highly successful person the situation was win win for both parties. Who cares if its to better his brand it helped better ours! College sports are a dirty business always have been always will be. Moves like this will be the equivalent of the university deemphasizing football and throwing it into utter purgatory. Delusional is most definitely the correct word to use here.Wrong and right. He’s not their biggest donor.
I wouldn't say he was getting more. It was simply a symbiotic relationship where both sides benefitted to some degree. There is now a philosophical difference on how that relationship should work and you can respect both sides. As such, the relationship, like any business deal that no longer works for both parties is terminated, or at least paused.And that is exactly why I felt he was getting more out of the relationship than Syracuse was. My hunch was only confirmed by what JB said off the cuff. But hey, I could be wrong. Maybe Dean Wormer really just does want to get rid of the jocks.
He wasn’t and isn’t their biggest NIL donor.….. the agenda is the university foolishly pushed away its biggest donor during the nil are lol
Upstate Shredding was the #2 donor to the Orange Club in 2018 and 2019 IIRC. If you have old game programs the top donors are listed in order of contribution. With the Legends Society launch and fundraising for the Lally Center I am not sure where he would stand now. And any data would not include his NIL initiatives. Whether that is incremental, or redirectional is unknown.#2
There are four seats at the table that are next to opposing team's bench. I am sure the cost is similar, but you wouldn't know the gentleman's name that has them unless you read the story in which he was mentioned.I mean the guy had special seats created for him. I’m sure he paid extra but the entire song and dance has been about him, not the school or programs. These stories only confirm that.
And the number 1 is?He wasn’t and isn’t their biggest NIL donor.
Absolutely not. Several hundreds of people give more to SU than he does. And he's far from the biggest supporter of SU athletics. For starters, take a look at the John Lally Athletic Complex. Not just Lally himself, but all the additional donors who have given 100s of thousands to fund specific parts of it. Same with the Melo Center.Is AW our biggest supporter?
If those people wanted to be known you’d hear about them, but they don’t do business the way Adam does.And the number 1 is?
The seats were not created for him. They were created as a way to raise additional money for the AD. Court side seat-holders were offered a chance to buy them before they were "sold" to him.I mean the guy had special seats created for him. I’m sure he paid extra but the entire song and dance has been about him, not the school or programs. These stories only confirm that.
I agree that he is competitive and powerful, disagree with just about everything else you said.This is how competitive and powerful people react when acting magnanimously for years and years going above and beyond to support a cause/university they didn’t even go to, developing relationships and a love for the people and institution along the way only to be rudely (emphasis on rudely without ANY respect), rudely be thrown to the curb and disrespected only because you don’t fit the institutional profile and “look” of whom you want supporting you.
And then after a lifetime of trying to do the opposite and being successful doing it the right way, giving back etc., have so many say well they must know he’s still dirty or something suggesting dark nefarious ill begotten gain as the excuse when they know full well that’s bs but still do nothing to counter the narrative, in fact continuing to say nothing at all.
Don’t blame the guy, I hope he goes scorched earth and it results in new leadership that gets it that guys like this don’t grow on trees and they should be coddled and supported.
I certainly would do this if I were in his position and treated this way. Now that I know with CERTAINTY that the guys above board in his dealing and they don’t like his style of flying too close to the sun as he brings attention to his own causes too, it’s unconscionable what syracuse is doing to this guy.
Not that they’ve chosen to push him aside but no the manner af how they’ve done it (not returning his calls emails to have a meeting of the minds, not letting him bid on dome naming rights, etc - all of which I know with CERTAINTY to be true), not giving a modicum of respect in the process to allow people like you - not you specifically - but his critics to say he’s dirty or must be dirty.
Very nice school. I didn’t go to syracuse but have been a 50+ townie fan fanatically devoted my whole life. I went to a different school in part for the purity of the place re sports (could’ve played at SU), avoiding this type thing, so I look at them and the level of sport transactionally as a business.
The business of sport at the high level they inhabit, what they’ve done to this guy is simply bad business (again the manner of which, not the decision), and simply wrong ethically and morally.
I get it his reaction, syracuse is reaping what they sow, expect more for a while until, like me and others like me certainly I’m sure, the slow ugly mess of a separation occurs and mellows with time.
If the relationship was truly symbiotic, I think it would have been continued and nurtured.I wouldn't say he was getting more. It was simply a symbiotic relationship where both sides benefitted to some degree. There is now a philosophical difference on how that relationship should work and you can respect both sides. As such, the relationship, like any business deal that no longer works for both parties is terminated, or at least paused.
That’s the problem I have with the quotes in the article. “Shock and surprise” “…pushing away your biggest supporter.” It’s disingenuous. And it reads like SU has no other big donors and we’re doomed without Adam Weitsman.Absolutely not. Several hundreds of people give more to SU than he does. And he's far from the biggest supporter of SU athletics. For starters, take a look at the John Lally Athletic Center. Not just Lally himself, but all the additional donors who have given 100s of thousands to fund specific parts of it. Same with the Melo Center.
So you, like many I know, are suggesting he’s dirty. Would you people quit beating around the bush show some evidence of this already?!I agree that he is competitive and powerful, disagree with just about everything else you said.
Wait a second...I was told Axe was a true journalist and asks the tough questions to both sides. Am I hearing correctly that Axe is just grinding the other side without fair reporting on Syracuse? How come our purist fans who were outraged about Axes not towing the company line on the radio are not outraged by his slanted writing on this topic? It's an outrage I tell ya, an outrage! (Crickets).That’s the problem. We are getting one side of the story. Nobody is talking to anyone else who supports NIL at Syracuse besides Weitsman.
Why?
The same can be said about Brent Axe and Syracuse.com.
I generally appreciate the coverage, but one side is missing.
Neil - I appreciate your posts, your blog and the information you share. Thank you. Full disclosure, I knew Adam very casually back in the 90s when he owned the building I worked in and would visit us regularly. Always enjoyed talking with him then and think he is a better man today as that was prior to his legal issues and becoming a father. I have been one of the biggest supports of Adam on this forum from the beginning refuting claims of others who denigrated his motives and character.You can spew misinformation and nonsense, Scott. I really could care less. But get your facts straight, please. I don't have an agenda. I am not Adam's puppet. I don't hate SU. I went to SU. I'm a proud alum, class of 2000. Today's article is based on comments from a NIL expert. I asked SU for comment. They declined. Also, in the almost seven years I've written for the site I run, I've written thousands of articles. 95 percent of them are positive about my alma mater.
Cliff Ensley as well. Gave to SUAD for facilities and helps run the football-focused NIL Collective.Absolutely not. Several hundreds of people give more to SU than he does. And he's far from the biggest supporter of SU athletics. For starters, take a look at the John Lally Athletic Center. Not just Lally himself, but all the additional donors who have given 100s of thousands to fund specific parts of it. Same with the Melo Center.
“Was” is the operative word here. The relationship changed when the methods were addressed.If the relationship was truly symbiotic, I think it would have been continued and nurtured.
So you, like many I know, are suggesting he’s dirty. Would you people quit beating around the bush show some evidence of this already?!
I know him tangentially having met several times, and I’d like to believe my sh!te detector at age 60 on character is good.
If and when SU comments, I will gladly write about it and tell their side of the story.That’s the problem. We are getting one side of the story. Nobody is talking to anyone else who supports NIL at Syracuse besides Weitsman.
Why?
The same can be said about Brent Axe and Syracuse.com.
I generally appreciate the coverage, but one side is missing.