agreed--psu is an attraction and i believe would welcome an invite --but i do not see the acc wanting them they would be the premier team with the exception of fsu, and they already sellout every game and have a great deal. the attraction here is geography and sentiment---that may bring them back---but not likely--we missed that bus in the 80's thanks to the big e...I actually think Penn State and Notre Dame are the Dream Scenario for the ACC.
If ND is out of the picture, then I would like to see Penn State and UConn as the 15th and 16th members. You lock up Penn State and UConn and you really lock up the eastern seaboard.
B1G will be left scrambling, and either pick up Mizzou or Rutgers to fill in the void left by Penn State.
Penn State is the key to the ACC having every major city from along the Atlantic Coast locked up. That brings a tremendous amount of clout.
Because they won't wither away. If not the ACC, they will be in the B10.
Rutgers. Rutgers to the B10 doesn't scare me and it doesnt change the NYC market. The B10 already has a bigger footprint in NYC with PSU. RU sux. Doesnt matter what conference they're in. Don't really think the B10 is that foolish. Rutgers impact to NYC is very over ratede imo.
I hate Rutgers with a passion. I understand the "protect NYC" argument, but if the ACC is to add ND as a full member and UCONN then with SU, NYC is pretty much locked down. Rutgers is an afterthought in that scenario and the Big 10 can have them.We all know in the grand scheme of things that the best thing for the ACC and for SU (if they are going to go to 16) is that the 2 best additions are UConn and Rutgers. Texas isn't coming. WVU is likely to the SEC so I don't count them and ND, even if in for all sports, will still get some kind of special treatment for bowls or their TV deals. Screw that. Make it the Atlantic seaboard and be done with it.
guys, can we stop with the penn st to the acc or the maryland to the big10 crap, neither is happening.
no one is leaving the big10. no one is leaving the acc (even fsu. why would they?? they will continue to be the lead dog in this new conf, u cant put a price tag on basically a bcs yearly guarantee).
the reason the acc stopped at 14 is for ND. if they come, rutgers comes and thats it. sorry uconn. (we will call that the Kaiser dream scenario). if nd goes to the big10, the acc needs to act fast to get rutgers. last thing the acc needs is nd, mich, ohio state and the boys playing at Giants Stadium every fall and also pushing acc games off the networks in the City. at that point uconn gets the coveted 16th spot.
so my wish list...and what everyones should be...for a 16 team ACC is
1. ND and rut
2. rut and storz
and just to be CLEAR...nd with storz make ZERO sense if rutgers is still on the table.
I beg to differ. RU would wither away in the B10 (at least competitively). Just like SU (and likely Pitt) would have.
I think your PSU/Notre Dame impact ideas are a little too high. Close off the regional football schools, and only transient fans will follow those teams PERIODRutgers. Rutgers to the B10 doesn't scare me and it doesnt change the NYC market. The B10 already has a bigger footprint in NYC with PSU. RU sux. Doesnt matter what conference they're in. Don't really think the B10 is that foolish. Rutgers impact to NYC is very over ratede imo.
Agreed.We all know in the grand scheme of things that the best thing for the ACC and for SU (if they are going to go to 16) is that the 2 best additions are UConn and Rutgers. Texas isn't coming. WVU is likely to the SEC so I don't count them and ND, even if in for all sports, will still get some kind of special treatment for bowls or their TV deals. Screw that. Make it the Atlantic seaboard and be done with it.