Am I crazy to think this team can go 29-2?

[HoustonCuse]

Don't assume, I'm talking about regular season.

You are on record with a 6-0 NCAA tourney prediction. So if you've got us one-and-done at MSG (which I can't imagine you do), then we are at 35-3. Hey I'm all for your optimism, but we aren't in the SEC or ACC. Teams are just not going to come out of the Big East with records like that. On top of that the entire foundations of the whole program are shaking around these guys. As the heat ratchets up on the scandal, you have to think it won't help them.

 

[EastCoast2]

Who thought we would get crushed by Seton Hall at home last year?

 

[EastCoast2]

If we go 14-4 I'll be ecstatic

 

[SouthCampusHero]

Pomeroy isnt free anymore. Anybody know how he currently predicts this team to finish? Who does he have us losing to?

 

[cusetown1]

You are on record with a 6-0 NCAA tourney prediction. So if you've got us one-and-done at MSG (which I can't imagine you do), then we are at 35-3. Hey I'm all for your optimism, but we aren't in the SEC or ACC. Teams are just not going to come out of the Big East with records like that. On top of that the entire foundations of the whole program are shaking around these guys. As the heat ratchets up on the scandal, you have to think it won't help them.

semi's of Big East.

 

[mark79]

I think 27-4 is more realistic. Going unbeaten in the non conference is a must at 13-0. Then with Seton Hall (not an easy game), DePaul and Providence post non-conference play, we SHOULD be 16-0 heading into the game against Marquette.

Chances are we split with Uconn and Louisville. If we go 3-1 those 4 games, who knows. I do agree that seeing those games are at the end of the year it will most certainly decide who wins the BE and claims a #1 seed in the NCAA's.

Agree Marsh. I would put that as the upside and be very, very happy with it.

 

[CUSEBB1]

Hell, 2 of our losses will be to Louisville.

 

[Townie72]

This thread really brought out the wildly optimistic.

Posters who suggest we could have as many as 6 losses (25 - 6) are being dismissed out-of-hand.

Are you guys all new to college basketball? Did you watch SU last season? It's mind-boggling.

There is NO CHANCE a team with Scoop and Triche at the guard position is going to lose only two games. They are too inconsistent, too careless, too eratic. So far, when one has been awful, the other has bailed us out. But there are going to be nights when they both stink up the gym.

And there are going to be nights when opponents shoot the lights out.

29 and 2? Scoffing at 25 - 6?

It's amazing what early season euphoria can do to otherwise rational ppeople.

 

[cusetown1]

This thread really brought out the wildly optimistic.

Posters who suggest we could have as many as 6 losses (25 - 6) are being dismissed out-of-hand.

Are you guys all new to college basketball? Did you watch SU last season? It's mind-boggling.

There is NO CHANCE a team with Scoop and Triche at the guard position is going to lose only two games. They are too inconsistent, too careless, too eratic. So far, when one has been awful, the other has bailed us out. But there are going to be nights when they both stink up the gym.

And there are going to be nights when opponents shoot the lights out.

29 and 2? Scoffing at 25 - 6?

It's amazing what early season euphoria can do to otherwise rational ppeople.

 

[mark79]

Pomeroy isnt free anymore. Anybody know how he currently predicts this team to finish? Who does he have us losing to?

I sprang for it... He predicts we lose only to Louisville away as far as individual game percentages but over the course of the whole season he predicts four losses due to the cumulative probabilities. The away game at Connecticut is predicted as the least probable of our other wins at 59% (meaning we have a 59% chance of winning it).

Besides the louisville away game that he gives us a 46% chance of winning, every other game he gives us a 70%+ chance of winning. Over the next three games: Marshall is 92%, GW 95% and NC State 76%.

 

[Eric15]

I think they can and I think they will.

SU's greatest regular season team ever (2009-2010) lost three games. Losing only two would be exceptionally difficult, especially without any type of consistent low-post scoring. You're talking like we're 1990 UNLV or 1996 Kentucky - we were losing in the 2nd half to Va Tech, Stanford and Florida.

A realistic over/under for this team would probably be 5.5 or 6 losses.

 

[cusetown1]

SU's greatest regular season team ever (2009-2010) lost three games. Losing only two would be exceptionally difficult, especially without any type of consistent low-post scoring. You're talking like we're 1990 UNLV or 1996 Kentucky - we were losing in the 2nd half to Va Tech, Stanford and Florida.

A realistic over/under for this team would probably be 5.5 or 6 losses.

I think 4, but I'm Mr. Optimist. I don't think there will be any What? losses.

 

[RaleighSUfan]

6? And I'm crazy?

If the straight jacket fits...

 

[Knicks411]

And another note on Pomeroy, I know some people are worried about Marshall a little, and hey, anything can happen, but they're 72nd in the Pomeroy rankings. They did win at Cincy, in OT, but they just lost at home to Ohio. I'm not too worried. (Famous last words)

If I was setting a line for BE losses for us, I would set it at 3.5 or so. 14-4 would be a great year. 15-3 and we're likely a #1 seed.

 

[Cuse117]

Time out, have you actually watched Marquette play this year? They could EASILY challenge for the big east.

 

['72 Orange]

SU's greatest regular season team ever (2009-2010) lost three games. Losing only two would be exceptionally difficult, especially without any type of consistent low-post scoring. You're talking like we're 1990 UNLV or 1996 Kentucky - we were losing in the 2nd half to Va Tech, Stanford and Florida.

A realistic over/under for this team would probably be 5.5 or 6 losses.

Even the "greatest regular season team" had their What loss, 65-68 to Rutgers (of all teams) at the RAC. Was that the game where Laminzana banked in the 3 at the buzzer? That team bucked our tradition of starting out hot and fading in the 2nd half of the season. The jury is still out on this year's team. I agree on us losing 5-6 this year. Splitting with Ville & UCONN (which will be tough) plus losing to Pitt at home. Add in 2 losses to teams we should beat.

 

[SouthCampusHero]

I sprang for it... He predicts we lose only to Louisville away as far as individual game percentages but over the course of the whole season he predicts four losses due to the cumulative probabilities. The away game at Connecticut is predicted as the least probable of our other wins at 59% (meaning we have a 59% chance of winning it).

Besides the louisville away game that he gives us a 46% chance of winning, every other game he gives us a 70%+ chance of winning. Over the next three games: Marshall is 92%, GW 95% and NC State 76%.

Thanks. If Im not mistaken, Pomeroy considers a 'swing' game to be any winning percentage that is +/-10 points of 50%. Could be wrong on that, though.

 

[Townie72]

Hey, Cusetown ... where on the glass is "Realistic"?

I'll agree that 29 - 2 is optimistic. But 27 - 4 is just a little less optimistic

25 and 6 is realistic.

Pessimistic is 21 - 10.

With Triche and Scoop at the guards every night is an adventure into the unknown.

 

[cusetown1]

Hey, Cusetown ... where on the glass is "Realistic"?

I'll agree that 29 - 2 is optimistic. But 27 - 4 is just a little less optimistic

25 and 6 is realistic.

Pessimistic is 21 - 10.

With Triche and Scoop at the guards every night is an adventure into the unknown.

Where around here can I just get a half a cup of water? without the full or empty.

 

[storange]

I think they can and I think they will.

yep BET don'''t go 29-2 25-6 would be great

 

[DeGrozz]

I don't see Kentucky losing in the SEC or OSU in the B10.

I gotta disagree with you on both points.

UK has a ton of talent, but they are very young and will run into a very well coached team, like a Florida, and lose. I'm not sold on this UNC team being top 5 right now, so I am not thinking UK's win over them is as impressive as it looks on paper. Look for them to get exposed by a veteran team once or twice this year.

OSU still has to play Wisconsin, an Izzo coached team, Illinois who looked okay the one time I saw them this year -- it is still way too early to be predicting running the table in conference. Granted, the B1G looks weaker this year than in years past, but college hoops is tailor made for upsets and we'll definitely see them with all the top teams.

 

[NKR1978]

Even the "greatest regular season team" had their What loss, 65-68 to Rutgers (of all teams) at the RAC. Was that the game where Laminzana banked in the 3 at the buzzer? That team bucked our tradition of starting out hot and fading in the 2nd half of the season. The jury is still out on this year's team. I agree on us losing 5-6 this year. Splitting with Ville & UCONN (which will be tough) plus losing to Pitt at home. Add in 2 losses to teams we should beat.

You responded to a post about the 09-10 being the greatest regular season team, but you're talking about the 02-03 team losing to Rutgers, right?

That was a horrible game. We had a few years of tough games at the RAC. TRob's?!? game winning 3 was the most unexpected way I've ever seen SU win.

 

['72 Orange]

You responded to a post about the 09-10 being the greatest regular season team, but you're talking about the 02-03 team losing to Rutgers, right?

That was a horrible game. We had a few years of tough games at the RAC. TRob's?!? game winning 3 was the most unexpected way I've ever seen SU win.

You are right - Mea culpa for me confusing two of our best teams. I was talking about our 02-03 national champs.

 

[asj410]

You responded to a post about the 09-10 being the greatest regular season team, but you're talking about the 02-03 team losing to Rutgers, right?

That was a horrible game. We had a few years of tough games at the RAC. TRob's?!? game winning 3 was the most unexpected way I've ever seen SU win.

Agreed, except the Roberts 3 at the buzzer was a home game.

 

[NKR1978]

Agreed, except the Roberts 3 at the buzzer was a home game.

Thank you.

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