Anyone have a link for that Axe Boeheim interview?

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Well he has to manage the emotions of young competitive men who are use to being told they're great their whole life. It is reasonable to think the media does not make his job easier in this regard. So he needs to fight the narrative that some players are treated differently than others.
Sure I get that. It’s a relative thing, all bigtime coaches are in that boat, our JB just happens to be more sensitive in general than most. Just JB being JB
 

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short leash lit the short fuse. JB trying to rewrite history . "i've never used a "short leash" axe your just plain wrong admit it " ok JB and you never wore ugly sport coats. jim you never play only zone. you never play a short bench and you're always gracious with the media. face facts JB. short leash and doghouse also define you.
 

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in 44 attempts. dude has had a lot of shots at the target at the same university in a program he controls.
also says that he tracked "mistakes" in that first 5 minutes .what was his magic number ? 4 or 5.
well buddy was on the same court during that run. missed 2 jumpers and a layup. that's 3. did he miss a defensive assignment or have a turnover also. cuz that kid was skating damn close to full game banishment.
 
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I realize he’s your colleague and you probably have a good relationship with him. Don’t know how old you are but Brent was an unconscionable dickbag to Coach P in his last 3-4 years coaching SU.

Whatever anyone’s thoughts are on the football program under P, he’s a good man who didn’t deserve a chooch like Brent Asshat.
If that ain’t the truth

Him and Schein
 

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in 44 attempts. dude has had a lot of shots at the target at the same university in a program he controls.
also says that he tracked "mistakes" in that first 5 minutes .what was his magic number ? 4 or 5.
well buddy was on the same court during that run. missed 2 jumpers and a layup. that's 3. did he miss a defensive assignment or have a turnover also. cuz that kid was skating damn close to full game banishment.
Titles are hard to win. How many coaches have done better? How many have played for the title 3 times? John Thompson, Bill Self, Tom Izzo, and John Calipari, only have 1 right? FF's are hard to get to as well. Not many coaches have more.

Not sure JB was "tracking" mistakes but observed what we all saw. Jalen was playing poorly, agreed? Buddy missing shots are not mistakes as long as they are not bad shots. Driving into traffic and having the ball stripped is. Taking bad shots is. Not involving your teammates as the PG is.

Buddy played pretty well. 17 pts, grabbed a lot of boards. 3-5 from 3. If Jalen produced anything close to that, you'd throw a party.
 

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buddy did play well but did not start well 1st 5 minutes. and yes i relistened to the axe show and carey's missed shots were counted as "mistakes". he said and i quote he missed 2 shots had 2 turnovers and 2 defensive lapses. that in JB's mind was cause to make the change. he cited those 6 mistakes and deemed it unacceptable. and i agree it's his call. but that start wasn't all carey. he also went on to say players like elijah hughes get a pass based on prior performance. but i chuckle when JB says short leash has "never been the case" at SU.
 
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buddy did play well but did not start well 1sy 5 minutes. and yes i relistened to the axe show and carey's missed shots were counted as "mistakes". he said and i quote he missed 2 shots had 2 turnovers and 2 defensive lapses. that in JB's mind was cause to make the change. he cited those 6 mistakes and deemed it unacceptable. and i agree it's his call. but that start wasn't all carey. he also went on to say players like elijah hughes get a pass based on prior performance. but i chuckle when JB says short leash has "never been the case" at SU.
Buddy didn't "shoot" well the first 5 minutes, but he did grab a couple of rebounds He wasn't making boneheaded plays either. Carey was. So if JB had said "he missed 2 bad shots had 2 turnovers and 2 defensive lapses" it would have been ok?

You say the start wasn't all on Carey but he was absolutely hurting the team. His job is to create for others, and make plays. He wasn't doing that, but instead taking bad shots, turning the ball over and not initiating the offense. Plus he wasn't playing defense.

Guy's like Hughes and Buddy will get more of a pass, because they've shown they can shoot and score, rebound and play defense And both of them did. That's how basketball is.
 
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short leash??? Bobby Lazur (sp?)
Was that a short leash situation? If I recall, he was stuck behind junior and senior year John Wallace, and then we had Winfred Walton coming in so he was looking at being a career backup.

As it turns out, he would’ve played a ton his junior and senior years.
 

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Wasn’t it “prime time” Adam Schein who was as a jerk to P & D? I specifically remember an interview he had with D, and D actually hung up on Adam. It was ugly ( as was the football those last years).
“HOW COULD YOU LOSE TO CINCINATTI!!!!!???”

lol. Schein was awesome, IMO. He was a must listen.
 

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We can all agree that the idea that no one has ever had a short leash is ridiculous, right?

I don’t personally think this applies to Carey this year so far
I agree...many have had a short leash.

And even though it’s difficult for many to play like that...it’s often warranted and best for the team.

Not everybody is built for coming off the bench - IMO Josh Pace was one of the best I’ve ever seen at being able to come in at any time and play effectively. He was getting DNP’s in 2003, and still came in playing well when he got the chance again.

Ultimately it’s about winning and what’s best for the team and it’s often not worth it for the team to let a guy play through mistakes.

I actually wanted Carey out before Boeheim took him out, in both games, lol. I thought he gave him plenty of “leash” given what he’s showed. We don’t have time to lose to Colgate.
 

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I have been hard on our offense and frustrated at JB I wouldn’t ask him why he has a short leash for a player he gave over 5 minutes to before taking out.
JB has taken starters out after 30 seconds in the past.
Carey didn’t have a short leash.
He had over 5.5 minutes and we didn’t score a single basket. The adjustment turned the game around.
The question was intended to push buttons and then the interviewer wanted to troll because he knew he had a frustrated guest who doesn’t have a filter.
Yup. It’s mind blowing that there’s actually people on here complaining about Boeheim making a GREAT coaching move to go with Girard that game. Too many whiny busybodies who think this is bitty ball or something.
 

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As a veteran journalist I can tell you with certainty that Axe is ecstatic about that interview. He poked JB just enough to get him to provide details that he likely wouldn't have disclosed in another interview. The reason he continued to push JB on the short leash thing was to see what else he might reveal. And, in fact, there was more. That's Axe's job and he did it quite well. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether ppl think he's an a**hat or a tool or a dbag or whatever, it has everything to do with his interview skills to draw JB out with new information.
nice theory . . . except it didn't happen that way. axe was going for a softball intro, but jb said the hell with that and came right at him. to my ears, axe was back on his heels for the entire time
 

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axe never backed off the "leash" thing. even though questioned on "terminology" and usage and how JB has never employed it . i heard more of an agree to disagree let's move on. i agree axe poked him a bit but JB came out firing first.it's almost laughable to any fan who's followed the game to think JB doesn't realize he treats players differently. it's even more obvious than climate change cuz the timeline is shorter. but still there are defenders and deniers . still it's obvious the "leash" term hit a nerve. next call...hello tyler roberson.
 

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axe never backed off the "leash" thing. even though questioned on "terminology" and usage and how JB has never employed it . i heard more of an agree to disagree let's move on. i agree axe poked him a bit but JB came out firing first.it's almost laughable to any fan who's followed the game to think JB doesn't realize he treats players differently. it's even more obvious than climate change cuz the timeline is shorter. but still there are defenders and deniers . still it's obvious the "leash" term hit a nerve. next call...hello tyler roberson.
Tyler Roberson got 4 years to develop. No short leash there.
 

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tyler holds the record for offensive rebounds in a season. great player here.
 

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tyler holds the record for offensive rebounds in a season. great player here.
So? He wasn’t a great player. He was a kid that had the talent to rebound when he wanted to. Of course, did didn’t always want to. He never developed his offensive game either. Too bad. Maybe he should have stayed on campus and worked on his game instead of going home to NJ to play pick up ball each summer.
 

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not great ? A LOT of great players thru here and he's in the record book. rethink your premise.

(of course his minutes were limited )
 

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not great ? A LOT of great players thru here and he's in the record book. rethink your premise.
Correct. Far from great. Great players don’t get benched in their senior season. He may have had some great rebounding games, but that’s really it.
 

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Correct. Far from great. Great players don’t get benched in their senior season. He may have had some great rebounding games, but that’s really it.
you meant to say ALL TIME BEST rebounding seasons ever . players get benched on their coaches whim.
 

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you meant to say ALL TIME BEST rebounding seasons ever . players get benched on their coaches whim.
Nope. 5 rebounds per game as a senior. 2 rebounds per game as a freshman. That leaves his sophomore and junior years where he averaged about 8 per game. Not great. Sorry.

Coaches don’t bench great players on a whim. That’s absurd.
 

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you meant to say ALL TIME BEST rebounding seasons ever . players get benched on their coaches whim.
That’s like saying Marius Janulis or Matt Roe were great players because they were great shooters. Tyler was a good rebounder and had some great games but he was a role player. Great players make all League teams at the minimum.
 

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marius and matt were great shooters. better than what we got now. they had a role and they executed it.
like tyler. does that make you all league ? probably not. but it means you are doing your assigned task exceptionally. which all three of the above mentioned did. great players.
 

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marius and matt were great shooters. better than what we got now. they had a role and they executed it.
like tyler. does that make you all league ? probably not. but it means you are doing your assigned task exceptionally. which all three of the above mentioned did. great players.
None were great players. Lol

Have to assume you’re just trolling now.
 

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Was that a short leash situation? If I recall, he was stuck behind junior and senior year John Wallace, and then we had Winfred Walton coming in so he was looking at being a career backup.

As it turns out, he would’ve played a ton his junior and senior years.
I want to say it was against Alabama in the Dome in 1996, Lazor came in the second half while free throws were being shot. He was on the low block. Alabama rebounded its own miss and Boeheim was apoplectic and pulled Lazor at the next dead ball. Or maybe even took timeout to do so after Alabama scored. He was in for like 13 seconds and that more or less sealed his transfer.
 

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